Abortions.
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| Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | xXLiesXx: By that logic, every individual sperm cell and egg is also a living organism because they're made up of cells. |
| Jesse Lacey; Awake and Unafraid  Age: 26 Gender: Female Posts: 12077 | stormy:SOOOOO many children die and are mistreated in foster homes (which is where you are before you're adopted) and let's face it, not every one of those babies is going to get adopted. There will always be some left over. |
| Jesse Lacey; Awake and Unafraid Age: 26 Gender: Female Posts: 12077 | I was supposed to be aborted and I'm still for it. If the parents are stupid enough to want to have killed their baby, let them suffer (if) when they miss it or their conscious is killing them. It's the mothers body, that's like saying "you can't get a lung transplant you are killing a lung!" Quite frankly, in my humble opinion it depends on how old the baby is. A small cluster of cells? YOU KILL MORE CELLS WHEN YOU SCRATCH YOUR ARM. Is it considered morally wrong to scratch your arm? NO. Is it ILLEGAL in some places to scratch your arm? NO. The LIVING CELLS on your arm have as much potentinal for life as the ones inside that mother's womb. In short; mother's body, mother's choice. |
| sweet disposition. Banned  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 48272 | What do you think about the principle of double effect when it comes to abortions? For those of you who don't know what it is, it's the Christian Church's view that abortion is allowed in the case of cancer or an eptopic pregnancy. They allow it because the first effect, the desired effect, is to save the mother's life, but the second effect, the abortion is unwanted, but there nonetheless. |
| doctor. In The Murder Scene  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 23302 | DIE! DIE! DIE!: I'm sorry but I could not disagree more. I understand what you are saying and, I can see some logic in it BUT once the child is concieved there is TWO parents involved. Some fathers choose not to stick around, I don't believe that is right but, if they make their choice not to be part of that child's life then the mother does not have to ask them for permission for an abortion as, if they didn't plan to be there for the baby anyway, it's not directly making a difference to that indivuals life. HOWEVER, there is some men who wish to be there to support the mother and the child too. They are in it for the whole thing, babies included. If they intend to be there and take as much responsibility as the mother, surely it becomes their 'burden' too. Therefore, I believe, that they should be able to take an active role in making the decision of whether or not to abort the child. Some men are devestated at the loss of the baby and would be willing to look after it themselves. Surely, if a father would look after it, isn't that better than killing the child? As for being with someone who wants children, there are other character traits that make you fall in love with people. If he were in a loving, commited relationship, why should he HAVE to give that up because his wife does not want a baby. I'm not saying at all that she has to do as he says and, if he wants a child, she MUST give it to him. That's not it at all. What I'm saying is that, if the decsion of a life being born or aborted is an option and the father believes he can look after the baby and support it well, why shouldn't he be able to make a decision about that child's life. It takes two people to concieve therefore, there is two people involved in the matter (not including the unborn child). |
| doctor. In The Murder Scene Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 23302 | Oh Star.: Wow, sounds familiar from an RE lesson, eh Fia? I think that it's unfair to apply that in only two occasions. If there is a chance that the mother will die if she doesn't have an abortion, I believe the principal of double effect should ALWAYS be used to preserve a woman's life. Not just in the case of a cancer patient or eptopic pregnancy. |
| sweet disposition. Banned Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 48272 | Painful Reality: It really is. (: And I agree with you t0o. I find it bizarre how they only use it in those two cases alone. |
| Simple and Clean Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 2616 | PaperDoll: This disscussion always comes back to adoption. Adoption isn't the answer to everything. In case you forgot, it's not a case of being pregnant and not noticing, you basically have to live a completely different life for 9 months, and in my opinion, the mothers wants come before that of an embryo, which has no sense of being, that doesn't even know it's alive. |
| Girl Anachronism Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 509 | Whether it knows it's alive or not, it doesn't mean it's any less important. All living things are equal. They all live, they all die, they all reproduce, and they all feel pain. It'd be selfish to say that, hey! you don't know your alive, but we do. Hey! You could make someones life just a little better, make someones smile just a little brighter, but.... though you could live, and do all that, we are going to not give you rights, we're not going to let you live. Because you're not equal. You 'not like' us. We're going to kill you, and though we don't know how you will lead your life and what you will do, we're not even going to give you a fighting chance, we're not going to let you EVER experience your first day of school, or love, because your just an embryo, a 'sack of cells' that could be something.... but we choose that just because one person doesn't want you, doesn't even want to give you up for adoption, that you'll never know life. You'll be nothing. Humans should never be able to call something, nothing. Every little thing should matter, because even the tinniest decision, could change everything. That kid that gets picked on daily and has no friends, COULD of had a friend, but instead of adoption the mother choose abortion. That kid will never have a best friend, or anything close, because of it. Because of what COULD of been. What IS matters just as much as what CAN. What CAN can change everything, whether we'll ever know about it, the 'sack of cells' will ever know about it, shouldn't matter. |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | xXLiesXx: That right there destroyed any hope of someone taking you seriously XDDDDDDD |
| Diana_a7x Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 456 | xXLiesXx: So this proves or somewhat it does to me, that adoption may be the answer, one person cannot just take some one's life just because they don't want them to live |
| Simple and Clean Salute You in Your Grave Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 2616 | PaperDoll: Abortion takes away noone's life. It takes away a potentual life, but in my opinion, an undeveloped embryo is no more than cells which could become life. Not a person, not a baby, not a thing with rights. |
| Diana_a7x Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 456 | But sometimes thats not the case.. |
| Simple and Clean Salute You in Your Grave Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 2616 | Sometimes, no. I don't agree with late abortions, unless they have to be done. However, 90% of abortions take place in the 1st semester. |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | Thats a little extreme, but it is a high percent. I think it's more like 60 in the first, and 80 in the first and second together |
| Girl Anachronism Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 509 | DIE! DIE! DIE!: Okay, that just made me confused. And apparently someone took it seriously. Its true though. Just because something doesn't know that its alive doesn't give you the right to go and kill it. |
| gothic_gurl8121 Killjoy  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 2 | yeah i am for abortions b/c i am 14 and pregnant i am soooo worried |
| Odalisque Always Born a Crime  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5541 | What some people seem to forget is that this isn't an argument of whether you're killing a living being or not. It's an argument of when "humanness" begins. There are many living things that we can kill that are "okay" to kill. Take cells, for instance. They do not have this "humanness" with emotions and free will like animals and humans do. A lot of people teeter, saying the humanness begins in the first trimester, others say the second. There is really no proof at this point when a fetus becomes "another human being." We can kill living viruses and diseases without it being considered murder, can't we? Of course we can. Those who argue that you shouldn't kill anything with cells, since it is a living thing, consider this: Everything is made up of cells. It's not about the fact that the fetus is living. It's about the fact that it is or will be a human being. As for pro-choice or pro-life, I'm pro-choice. I think that many women will continue to use abortion as birthcontrol, which is really a terrible way to use the opportunity. But women who have a real reason for it should be given the choice. And there are some pretty valid reasons for it. |
| Diana_a7x Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 456 | xXLiesXx: My point/thought exactly |
| daneeissxc. Jazz Hands  Age: 26 Gender: Female Posts: 321 | I'm like, 75/25 on this. Like, when you get pregnant and you didn't want the baby in the first place, it wouldn't kill YOU to hold it for 9 months, and then give it up for adoption. The baby deserves a chance at life, even if you didn't want to get pregnant. BUT, if it was by rape, incest, etc., then that would be a somewhat good reason to abort. But still, the baby deserves a chance. IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THE BABY, THEN GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION! |
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