Abortions.
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| deathwish Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 144 | yes it is. it's life. Its killed before it even gets a chance to live. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | ^ it never got to actually get killed cause it was only cells. |
| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | deathwish: So something that never lived had a life? Your words, not mine. That makes no sense. Should we give rights to rocks now? |
| deathwish Fabulous Killjoy Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 144 | druscilla; in rags: Well, you missunderstood me because what i ment is that it is life and it never got a chance to live meaning do the things we do because it was killed. It makes perfect sense. You can in NO way compare a rock, to an embryo. A rocks not a human being, and an embryo is. |
| Kaede Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1359 | Hmm... I guess its acceptable when aborting them when they are only cells because cells don't feel pain. To me, its kind of like a chicken's egg... Would we say that we are killing a chick by eating the yolk? But anyway, what I heard from my philosophy teacher, he said that he knew this from a group of people who studied on the stages of a developing baby. They said that once the baby inside the foetus can feel pain, that is when it is considered a living being. Before that, its just cells and its more acceptable to abort at that time. EDIT: I don't think that people should blame others for their decision on whether to abort. Thats because there are many difficult situations the mother could be in. Its the mother's body as well. They can't say that she is not allowed to make decisions on her body. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | deathwish: deathwish: But that's only your opinion. And what's it based on? There's no scientific evidence that an embryo is alive in the same way you and I are. Until anti-abortionists can come up with something finite that proves that embryos are anything more than an unconscious bunch of cells that can't feel pain, there's no reason to ban abortion. |
| deathwish Fabulous Killjoy Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 144 | Fezzik: Holy shit. Did you not read my posts before that saying that thats what i believe in? And its my opinion and i stated it several times saying that this is what i believe and i am not trying to convince anyone of anything i was saying my beliefs they dont have to be yours.. I dont really care what it "proven" or not i dont judge what i believe in on science. But your opinion is whatever science says goes and thats fine just stop trying to convince me to change what i believe because number one; i feel like you are, and i apologize if you aren't also if you feel that i am trying to change your mind i'm NOT. And number two; if you are dont bother because i dont really care what some random person has to say about science and whats proven and not. Please dont take any of that offensive. I am not trying to be a jerk and offend you or anyone else. |
| Alucard Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 410 | I´m with you,Nikki. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | deathwish: I wasn't trying to change your opinion. You believe what you want; I'm not going to stop you. But generally when someone comes on this thread and says they do not support abortion, they mean that abortion should be made illegal. I was only pointing out that there's no evidence to back up the claim that embryos are alive in the full sense of the word, and therefore the government can't ban abortions because they can't make laws based on feelings. You can believe that abortion is wrong, I won't try to argue out of that one; everyone has a right to their own opinion. But I would argue with you if wanted to have abortion made illegal. That's all. Also, swearing is not allowed on the Discussion Board. =] |
| bloodredruby69 Banned  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | deathwish: If you are that set in your opinion, then you might as well not bother posting in here. And I'm not saying that to be harsh, either. This is a DISCUSSION board. What you post, you will be called out on, just because that is the whole idea of this board. You are entitled to your opinion, no one is saying you are not. No one is saying your opinion is not valid, or that you have to change it to suit the opinions of someone else on this board. However..... IF you don't want someone to question your opinion or try to show you how it looks from another side of the equation, then don't post, because that is exactly what they are going to do, and that is what they have the right to do here. Also, posting the same thing over and over again will only lead to a cyclical discussion, and we try to open all the doors and see things from all sides of the topic. You've stated your opinion, we understand. But there is no need to keep repeating yourself, especially when your posts are based on opinion and not factual information. Now, I wasn't trying to attack you here, but I was trying to make a point. -------------------------------------- inzany: This is spam. Unless you actually have something to add to the conversation, please don't post things like this. It is not welcome here. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | we can't say for sure if the embro can feel pain or not, we can't remember and we were'nt aborted. but we know te mother feels some pain, its like a mini labor. but i can see why alot of people think it should be outlawed, someone gave you a chance to live and didn't kill you at the very beginging, but i'm prochoice cause you can't tell people how to live their lives. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^We know that embryos don't have the kind of nerve cells that register pain. So we do know it doesn't hurt for an embryo to be aborted. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | ^ oh, ok, i just found out my best friends mom was suppose to be aborted, and she won't be here if her grandma decided to keep the baby even though it was very sick and small |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^So? I'm sure she's a great person and all, but if she'd been aborted neither you nor anyone else would know the difference. You can't miss something that never existed. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | ^ good piont but if she wasn't here, i'd be so lonely, she understands me. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | ^but then agian if you know your child will be unhealthy and you don't want it to hurt it might be the best for it, you never know. but the people who get one is never sure what they're giving up, and if they don't have one they'll never know if life would have been better if they got on. |
| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | savedbymcr_2004: My mother considered aborting me. It doesn't upset me. -shrug- She was 16 and she got pregnant. Most people would consider it. She had a pregnancy scare about six months after she had me. She was 100% going to abort if she was. That doesn't upset me either. It's her body, her choice. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | ^ oh, i'm kinda amazed you just shrug it of, but i guess you understand the concept so well of people living their lives and not getting crap from other people. |
| Kaede Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1359 | druscilla; in rags: I agree. To be honest, I'm quite thankful to have a life, but if my mom was very distressed about have a baby and wanting to abort, I wouldn't care because its her choice. |
| Craig Owens Bleeding on the Floor  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 1117 | I, being a feminist and what-not, am very torn on this subject. I want womens rights but this is my exception to those rights. I believe that it is alright to have an abortion if the mother was raped, her life was endangered, the mother is incapable of giving the child a safe environment (for example - a drug addict), or the child would be born with severe mental damage/ terrible disease resulting in crippling the child. I would also include women who used protection but were the unfortunate percentage who's protection failed them, but that would be very hard to prove/disprove. But for those who make no move to use protection, they shouldn't be allowed to have one. It is not a means of birth control and therefore shouldn't be used as such. If you aren't going to take the time to buy birth control or condoms at least have the day after pill stuffed inside your medicine cabinet. If they don't take the time to prevent it, they should have to live with their consequences. I do not give pity to stupid women who don't take this seriously. I hope I offended no one. These are just my personal beliefs which I base upon my own consciences morals. |
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