Religion
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| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: BUt Jesus said himself that Hell was flames and eternal pain and suffering. It doesnt matter if its physical or not, its not going to be fun. I totally agree with Lux Aeterna. |
| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: But what if you love your life on Earth and are happy, its not Heaven, so does that mean that its Hell. No. Hell is described as a place for torture, and Heaven is a place of worship and happiness. |
| KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453 | ^ Still we have no proof of this. We do not know what or where heaven is. Nor do we know what hell is like. In addittion Jesus talk many things in parables. The the parable of the bowl under the lamp. People of that back then didn't know what this parable meant. They just though Jesus was telling them where to place there lighten where as in reality it mean you should let your faith show and grow. Maybe Jesus explain heaven and hell in simple terms for the people. I mean when Jesus was on the cross he said 'There are many rooms in my father's house' This doesn't mean that heaven it literary a house. No human likes to be tortured therefore hell must be some form of torture so Jesus describe it like this. And all humans like to be happy and with loved ones, so therefore this must be what heavens like and Jesus described it like this. I still hold the fact that there is not hell, because not being in paradise must be hell and torture in itself. |
| Rhys Webb Awake and Unafraid Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 12341 | there are lots of things in religion we have no proof off. |
| dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290 | Citizen Erased.:Almost everything in religion hasn't and can never be proven. It's all about fate in something you can't see, but you think is there. I do highly respect religious people for that. Mainly because I can't do that. I can't have faith in something if I don't know if it's actually there. But, I'm thinking of picking a religion that has nothing to do with a 'god' or a 'devil'. No beings of good and evil. Just the actual good and evil energies are enough for me. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | CemeteryDrive123: never said you were, my friend is. even though people die every day doesnt mean someones not watching over them, it was just their time to go. you're allowed to believe what you believe, i was just curious about athiests, cause i dont know a lot people who are |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: we really have no proof of anything in any religion cause no one alive has seen anything about their religion with their own eyes. heaven is or isn't what people say it is and its the same for hell. we don't know exactly what it is all we have to go on is a book that was wrote thousands of years ago. heaven and hell can be anything we just don't know it. but to quote a person who left it anonymous ^^; ' i would rather live believing in God, only to die and find out he didn't exist, then to live not believing in him, and die and find out he did' |
| KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453 | Girl next door: ^ But then you are believing for the wrong reasons. You should believe because you have faith and love in God. Not because you are scared of what comes after death. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: that's what NotOkay22 and i said a few posts before this. everyone sins, its human nature, but the if you sin constantly, and without shame, you are not forgive and will go to hell. Jesus died for our sins, everyone was sinning and people weren't aware of the wrath, so Jesus died to make us realize that what we did was serious, and people changed their ways, and the people who didn't change went to hell, i cant stress that enough |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: i never said i was afraid of him. God loves everyone dispite their relegion, he doesnt care if you believe or not, he still loves you. what i said was i would rather live believing and having faith and die to find out that i was wrong and find out wherever i will go, then to not believe and go to heaven cause i was a good person and feel bad cause i didnt believe in him. to me that would be hell itself, to see that God still loves me and i denied him in my life, it would make me unhappy even in heaven |
| KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453 | ^ I still choose no to believe in hell. I believe in doing the right thing and being sorry for my sins but the whole 'hell' subject just doesn't add up to me. I think in some religions its used more to scare people into believing and in reality you can't scare some one into having faith. Also God isn't meant to be vengeful or have any wrath. That is why he sent Jesus. In the old testament God is portrayed as this but in the knew he is known as kind and loving. 'We are all one in the eyes of God' |
| KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453 | Girl next door: I didn't mean it as a personal attack on you sorry if It came across as that. I was just stating that I've heard that quote before and I just think it makes people beliefe for the wrong reasons. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | ^ you dont have to believe in hell. you're completely intitled to your own opinion and to have people respect it, and we do, i actually think that when we die your souls still live on earth, but we cant see the living and they cant see us, and God still wathces over us. i dont know what heaven is and people are intitled to what they believe i just see that as another form of heaven. i think that hell would still be what the bible says it is though. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: no it wasnt ^^, it was actually my fault for not explaining more of why i stand by it. |
| dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290 | Girl next door:I understand that you aren't talking to me but I just felt like saying something. I was atheist for a time, and I guess I still kind of am since I don't have a religion, really. I became atheist because I thought it was ridiculous to believe in something that probably doesn't exist. I thought god was another lie told, like Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Another cheap fairy tale meant to keep people happy. But, now I'm kind of looking for a religion that has nothing to do with worship of 'god' or satan. A religion that'll keep me happy without bringing glory to beings we don't know even exist. And, why do you call that 'spoiled brat' your friend? It's obvious you don't think well of her. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | Giacomo Paradisi.: i've felt that way before, i got really depressed and almost lost faith, but my family helped me back into my religion. the whole spoiled brat thing. my friend is my friend cause i'm still talking to her. i dont think well of her now, but when i first met her she was nice, its just some stuff happened that made her how she is. she got new friends and started acting different. me and a couple of other friends still talk to her cause shes going to a different school than what her friends are going to and we hope that she'll be nicer, i just kinda dont want to lose anyone cause i'm having a hard time right now |
| Beeblebrox Really Not Okay Age: 41 Gender: Female Posts: 688 | PrettyHandsomeAkward: I agree. This is probably going to stray from the topic, but I'm involved in an online ghost message board of professional parapsychologists and they have all said from their experience communicating with ghosts that there is not a definitive location such as hell. They've reported that many deceased spirirts simply speak of connecting with the "source" that it is love, or that they've wandered lost outside of it. They've never encountered a spirit that saw god or angels or to enter any sort of new place like heaven. But they say there is a radiant light that is full of love and goodness and truth, etc. Their experience of a hell is being shut out from the source of the light, to refuse to accept it. This makes me think that perhaps we have tried to give god a more human personality, with a body. But maybe in reality, it's much simpler than that. Maybe god is an essence, not a person. Maybe believing in god is simply sharing love and compassion, magnifying his essence. Maybe we made a mistake in turning this idea of love into a religion of rules, codes, practices and guilt. |
| ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657 | I highly doubt that any child i saw die was their 'Time to die" Yes you could arugue that their in a better place but unless the parent is abusive then a childs paradise will always be with them and friends. Unless god is a horrible 'Being' then he would never take anyone away from the people they love and care for. And yet. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | ^ i'm not gonna say they're 'gonna be in a better place' . like i said before we dont know what heaven is or isnt. 'everything happens for a reason' is what i've always been told. now i'm curious is to why you saw you the children die, volunteer work at a hospital? |
| Rhys Webb Awake and Unafraid Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 12341 | ^ i've alwayed been told that everything happens for a reason as well, but i cannot find it in my heart to believe it when my uncle passed away from cancer, and my cousin's fourteen year old friend has been battling cancer from the time he was three and is now sadly dying. but, this is what i have been thinking about all day for some odd reason: religion can be similar to a thing called Megalomania. it is the psychological disorder where someone has delusional thoughts that they are superior to others, and are obsessed with themselves and large, extravagent things. people and especially devote followers of the christian faith and other religions tend to believe that their god is suprior to all, and sometimes to the point that they let their so-called "god" run their life. they follow everything the church says, follow all of the laws and commandments, but in the end what happens? we all wind up in a place called heaven, or hell. everyone is so obsssed with finding some kind of perfection, and paradise that sometimes they look to the church for that, basing whatever they do on the church or whatever their religion maybe. and to me, that is a bad thing just like Megalomania. you cannot walk around believing that god is superior to all, and base every little thing in your life off of your religion. and sadly, that is what's happening in politics today. no more is it just what is going on in office, it is whther the right morals are fit for it as well. hell even jobs are like that as well. religion is sadly taking over, and that is very very sad. it just goes to show that religion can be a powerful driving force when it wants to be, especially now in the 21st century with everyone shoving their beliefs down someone's throat. it's a sad thing to me. this is yet another reason why i am against religion. |
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