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bellamurte
Killjoy
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 45 |
It's very different though, if your a homosexual couple and your adopting/fostering a child, the social care system goes through every little teeny detail of your life. Theyre one step away from interviewing the cashier who served you at the grocery store last month.
When it's your real perents, however, the system isnt quite as fair. By the time you've reached secondery school most people assume your fine and it's hard to prove how perents really are screwing up theyre kids, especially if its mentally.
I've asked a religious girl in my class about the opinions in the bible on Gay and Lesbian people. It's fine to be gay so long as you don't act on it. So basically, live a lie.
Seriously, that is rather stupid. I'm going to hell now because I've kissed girls then. When I've lived the rest of my life being honest and good.
Theres something serverly messed up in that, and to be honest, I dont think my sex life has much to do with god. |
questionable content
Always Born a Crime
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 5604 | ^ if sex doesn't have to do with God, then what does?
But I agree with your main point; the adoption process does discriminate against homosexual couples, and it is extreme when people say that someone will go to hell just for acting on homosexuality. |
bellamurte
Killjoy
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 45 | I just dont see why if you want to create a race of people with free will and opinions and feelings what gives you the right to control who they do and dont love // sleep with. Maybe the point should be played more heavily on self respect than the difference between loving a man or a woman.
[edited because i forgot to add something]
Today I tried to explain to my mum I like both guys and girls. I'm not greedy I just do, it was during a conversation I was having with her about a close friend of mine comming out that she's a lesbian. When I told her I'd kissed girls before she told me there was something wrong in my head and that I needed to see a specialist  |
John St. John
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 7145 | bellamurte: When I told her I'd kissed girls before she told me there was something wrong in my head and that I needed to see a specialist
My mum tells me this all the time.
She's tried to get me to sign up for things like aversion therapy and stuff. It's causing a real problem at home. The thing is though, its really hard to change the opinions of a people from that generation. They grew up in a much less accepting society, Racism and homophobia were 10x worse, and homosexuality was even an offence. People like my mum grew up being told that effectivly different was wrong.
Hopefully in years to come this will improve, I already think todays society has become way more accepting, and while theres still room for improvement, I have hope  |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | John St. John:bellamurte: When I told her I'd kissed girls before she told me there was something wrong in my head and that I needed to see a specialist My mum tells me this all the time...its really hard to change the opinions of a people from that generation. They grew up in a much less accepting society Mm, my grandmother was born in 1910, and she is 100% pro gay marriage, and always has been. Being a product of a certain era does not necessarily form your opinions one way in stone. I'm sorry that your moms are saying these things to both of you  |
Marilyn Monroe
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 13140 | =[ I'm really sorry to hear that's what your mum's are like.
I know what it's like too, I went out with a close friend of mine that is a girl for 10 months, yet I couldn't mention too my dad because he is very anti-gay.
So I had to sneak around and lie to visit her, they weren't bad lies, but I still feel guilty for doing it. |
John St. John
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 7145 | thankyou, And Deb, your grandmother seems like a lovely woman.
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Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | John St. John:Deb, your grandmother seems like a lovely woman. She's the best, I'm so proud of her. I hope your Mom goes easier on you. |
brandleys;
Death Defying
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 186345 | Mindfuck:Do you think gay relationships should be illegal?
Because really, marriage is just like a long term relationship, except there's contract to be signed, and possibly rings exchanged officially.
That's pretty much it. I find marriage to be more symbolic than anything else.
On that note, I disagree with you. Because marriage is just a legal binding contract between two people who want to be legally recognised as a couple. I don't think that should be restricted to just straight people.
Deb:Happy birthday; it's my Mom's birthday too today. I am just curious as to WHY you think marriage should be restricted to male/female only?
(late thank you to Deb)
Gay relationships should not be illigal. I understand people can be in love, but I just don't think two men/two women should get married because I only think women should get married to men (and vise versa) because it's just MY definition of marriage. I have nothing against people who have a different one, it's just ME. And many people have the same opinion as me about it. And also, part of this has to do with women's bodies only being able to be with men's bodies, and vice versa. they go together, which means they're meant to be together. they're made for each other. I do think that homosexuals were born with it, because many centuries ago (I don't know when) where homosexuality was a crime, they found out that the gay guys had something in their brain that was smaller than heterosexuals (it was a long time ago when I heard this, so I don't remember all of it). They did not test it on lesbians. Also, I was watching something on the formation of twins, and one of the twins was gay as the other was straight, and the gay one had a deficiancy in testosterone I think. So no, it's not a choice. They were born with it. But I don't think they should get married to the same sex. |
ennui.
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 11393 | May 11th, 2009 at 05:49am ^ I think that it is fair enough that YOU believe marriage should only be between a man and a women,
but what I think that what you believe shouldn't impose on other human beings rights.
Marriage isn't a religious issue, it's a civil issue.
You have to go through the government and sign a legal document in order to marry the person you love.
It was once illegal for a white person to marry black, Hispanic, Japanese, Filipino, basically anyone who wasn't white.
And these days it's the same with homosexuals getting married.
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Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | May 11th, 2009 at 03:16pm I have to say that this essay pretty much sums it up for me. |
Jesse Lacey;
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 12077 | May 17th, 2009 at 02:10pm bellamurte:It's very different though, if your a homosexual couple and your adopting/fostering a child, the social care system goes through every little teeny detail of your life. Theyre one step away from interviewing the cashier who served you at the grocery store last month.
When it's your real perents, however, the system isnt quite as fair. By the time you've reached secondery school most people assume your fine and it's hard to prove how perents really are screwing up theyre kids, especially if its mentally.
I've asked a religious girl in my class about the opinions in the bible on Gay and Lesbian people. It's fine to be gay so long as you don't act on it. So basically, live a lie.
Seriously, that is rather stupid. I'm going to hell now because I've kissed girls then. When I've lived the rest of my life being honest and good.
Theres something serverly messed up in that, and to be honest, I dont think my sex life has much to do with god. In Leviticus 18:22 (from a New Living) it says, "Homosexuality is absolutely forbidden, for it is an enormous sin." In 18:29-30, it goes on to say "Whoever does any of these terrible deeds shall be excommunicated."
nothing about living a lie =] |
Jesse Lacey;
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 12077 | May 17th, 2009 at 02:14pm bellamurte:I just dont see why if you want to create a race of people with free will and opinions and feelings what gives you the right to control who they do and dont love // sleep with. Maybe the point should be played more heavily on self respect than the difference between loving a man or a woman.
[edited because i forgot to add something]
Today I tried to explain to my mum I like both guys and girls. I'm not greedy I just do, it was during a conversation I was having with her about a close friend of mine comming out that she's a lesbian. When I told her I'd kissed girls before she told me there was something wrong in my head and that I needed to see a specialist Because the idea is that God knew what was going to happen in your life before you were even born, and that there is a clear definition of right and wrong all in the Bible- but He leaves it up to you to do the right thing. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | May 17th, 2009 at 09:05pm alarm call:Because the idea is that God knew what was going to happen in your life before you were even born, and that there is a clear definition of right and wrong all in the Bible- but He leaves it up to you to do the right thing. And who is "God" or anyone else to tell you what the "right" thing is for yourself? Unless you're hurting people intentionally, nobody should be judging you. Didn't Jesus also say "Judge not lest ye be judged" and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Wasn't he tried as a heretic for blatantly disobeying Roman law? I'm curious, what's your take on that? |
Jesse Lacey;
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 12077 | May 17th, 2009 at 09:30pm Deb:And who is "God" or anyone else to tell you what the "right" thing is for yourself? Unless you're hurting people intentionally, nobody should be judging you. Didn't Jesus also say "Judge not lest ye be judged" and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Wasn't he tried as a heretic for blatantly disobeying Roman law? I'm curious, what's your take on that? I'm sorry, I'm not really a religious person. Just taking what I remember from Sunday School =]
I was not condoning what the Bible says about homosexuality, or anything else for that matter. I didn't mean for it to come across that way. I was only trying to correct what I thought was a misunderstanding. You're right, Jesus did say that- and I think you're right, that unless you're intentionally hurting someone you shouldn't be judged. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | May 18th, 2009 at 09:49am alarm call:I was not condoning what the Bible says about homosexuality, or anything else for that matter. You're right, Jesus did say that- and I think you're right, that unless you're intentionally hurting someone you shouldn't be judged. Sorry for the presumption  I just find it so curious, the hypocrisies within Organized Religion (I do mean all of them, I'm not just singling out the Christian Church (although they are the most vocal by far.) "Love everyone, except who we deem unacceptable." |
Jesse Lacey;
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 12077 | May 18th, 2009 at 07:07pm Deb:Sorry for the presumption I just find it so curious, the hypocrisies within Organized Religion (I do mean all of them, I'm not just singling out the Christian Church (although they are the most vocal by far.) "Love everyone, except who we deem unacceptable." No worries!
I share your curiosity, believe me. I think it's definitely ridiculous- and again, especially with Christianity. The whole idea of God is that he loves you no matter what, and the whole message of Christianity is to spread the love, so to speak. It makes no sense how only this one group of people (at least in the case of homosexuals) is being singled out. Adultery bothered Jesus enough for Him to preach about it (at least I think He did) but not being gay or a lesbian or anything in between. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | May 19th, 2009 at 10:10am Here is an update on that story we had been discussing. If this doesn't tug at your heartstrings, Conservatives, I don't know what else to say to you, except there but for the grace of God goes you. |
bellamurte
Killjoy
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 45 | May 22nd, 2009 at 06:50am alarm call: In Leviticus 18:22 (from a New Living) it says, "Homosexuality is absolutely forbidden, for it is an enormous sin." In 18:29-30, it goes on to say "Whoever does any of these terrible deeds shall be excommunicated."
nothing about living a lie =][/font][/size]
It's been a long time since I last went to Church. The girl in my class is a Jehovah's Witness, which makes things very different. -I read further down the page, your talking about Christianity there is a difference something to do with how the bible was translated into English, one only translated the meanings the other translated it word for word, something like that- she said that its not about what your thinking, its about your actions. So you can have feelings for another person, but if its wrong and you act upon it then you'll be punished.
But to be fair, they're weird anyway. They don't believe in heaven or hell, so I asked what happened when you die, and she went "...you die." it's abit of a waste of time believing in all that then. She did say something about eventually being resurrected unless you have lead a sinful life or something. *shrugs* I don't know, thats abit off topic anyway. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | May 22nd, 2009 at 09:52am bellamurte:The girl in my class is a Jehovah's Witness, which makes things very different. I read further down the page, your talking about Christianity there is a difference something to do with how the bible was translated into English, one only translated the meanings the other translated it word for word, something like that. But to be fair, they're weird anyway. They don't believe in heaven or hel. it's abit of a waste of time believing in all that then. Mmh; exactly why it's insane to let radicals involve themselves in our legislative decision. |
