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Cover Me In Gasoline
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April 18th, 2007 at 11:13am
In the UK the percentage of Murders have risen (apparently) in the last 10 or so years due to younger people are able to get hold of knives, guns etc easier.
A few days ago someone was shot two roads from where I used to live, where most of my friends still live, so I have a few questions.

What do you think can be prevented to stop murders?
What do you think the goverment do to help families with grief?
What are your views on murder?
What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer?
How do you think so many teenagers were able to get hold of offensive weapons?

Discuss
Blue_Demon
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April 20th, 2007 at 04:31pm
What do you think can be prevented to stop murders?
Nothing, if someone wants to kill someone else they will use anything to kill them; a kitchen knife is a dead weapon in the wrong hands. But probably more policing, and maybe thougher laws on being able to buy things that a lot of us don't realise can be used against another person.

What do you think the goverment do to help families with grief?
To be honest, the media don't exactly help; if they catch wind of someone being murdered they will want to report it; thus the goverment should try to keep it down low; help the police to maintan the privacy of the family during there time of grief.

What are your views on murder?
Most of the time they are done by someone who is mentally unfit/unwell; which sounds kinda bad, but for most of them it's true. Other than that, I have no idea what you mean by this question.

What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer?
I really think our laws should be a heck of a lot tougher on people who have killed someone else; for example life should mean life, and that these guy's should get any 'Human Rights' that some people keep wafling on about; they didn't care about the person's who's life they took, they don't care about the family who will always be grieving for the loss of there relative, keep the slopping out they have, and get rid of any of the entertainments they have already; ie Play Stations, colour TV, and they also get money every week!

How do you think so many teenagers were able to get hold of offensive weapons?
Go into a local Asda, Tesco, Sainsburies. Go into your house and go into the kitchen. Go to your garden shed or your garage and you will probably find what you need to kill someone. And the people who own gun's might have them locked up; but they can find key's and get hold of the gun's that way.

Gun law's should be a hell of a lot tighter than they are, I know restrictions have been made since the Dunblane tragedy; but considering that wee kids are being killed by moron's playing around with gun's kinda shows what's going on here.
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April 20th, 2007 at 04:53pm
well murder is sick (FULL STOP) punishment should be life if based on fully stable evidence
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April 20th, 2007 at 04:58pm
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well murder is sick (FULL STOP) punishment should be life if based on fully stable evidence
yes, i agree
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April 20th, 2007 at 06:29pm
What do you think can be prevented to stop murders? nothing. in all honesty, sad and scary as that thought is i honestly believe that nothing can be done. be have always and will always kill other people ... its a sad sad fact of life

What do you think the goverment do to help families with grief? this is tough, as good as the governments intentions are nothing can ever make up for the loss of a family members life , maybe they could just set up support groups and stuff so that if people feel they have no one else to talk to they atleast have that option

What are your views on murder? its wrong! nuff said!! what more is there to say or think about it?

What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer? like i know its controversial but i think for murderers the death penalty should be used

because with science we can be more definate that the person accused of the crime is in fact the right person

meaning limited chance of innocent people getting punished, but there should be restricitions and stuff to make sure that they can prooove they have the right person

otherwise total LIFE sentence, all the way to death

we need the most severe punishments possible for murderers

How do you think so many teenagers were able to get hold of offensive weapons? gang culture helps i guess ... i dont know ... societies and the governements failures at preventing such things from happening!
Blue_Demon
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April 20th, 2007 at 06:39pm
kjw3107:

What are your views on murder? its wrong! nuff said!! what more is there to say or think about it?

What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer? like i know its controversial but i think for murderers the death penalty should be used

because with science we can be more definate that the person accused of the crime is in fact the right person

meaning limited chance of innocent people getting punished, but there should be restricitions and stuff to make sure that they can prooove they have the right person

otherwise total LIFE sentence, all the way to death

we need the most severe punishments possible for murderers


I kinda have to disagree with the death penalty; there's not much justice if we just kill the murders in prision; and I have 2 reasons, and one could probably be shot down really quickly:

1. It's an eye for an eye, and since the UK is majorly a Christian society, it really should not have us stooping to a level of a murderer. (This is the one that will get shot down quickly.)

2. Some people probably won't want the person who killed there family member to be killed; because that is pretty much an easy way out for them; they will never have to suffer for the guilt of what they have done, they will never know what it's like to be inside a box and be left behind while the world grows on without them; and pretty much the killer will get a short funeral service and be buried somewhere nice and soon people will probably forget while the family struggle to carry on.
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April 20th, 2007 at 11:37pm
What do you think can be prevented to stop murders?
Teen murders? Bullying. Stop the bullying. Nobody does.
Happy people don't kill people.

What are your views on murder?
That usually it can be prevented.
Frankie-Oreo
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April 21st, 2007 at 08:57am
i think that whatever amendment in america which says every man has a right to own a gun should be thrown away

you have ridiculous gun laws.
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April 21st, 2007 at 12:20pm
yes murder is wrong on all cases but if the person whom did the murdering knows that they did some thing wrong and regret it and go through the punishment of maximum of 25 years then i am willing to forgive them no matter who they are and who they killed because if i think about it wouldn't like to spend an hour in a prison visiting some one let alone 25 years.
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April 21st, 2007 at 12:21pm
Frankie-Oreo:
i think that whatever amendment in america which says every man has a right to own a gun should be thrown away

you have ridiculous gun laws.


i second that
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April 21st, 2007 at 04:15pm
Hey, I'm from Texas so we just do lethal injection on eveybody. But I can understand why somebody would want to kill, but I usually don't agree with it.

A couple of days ago I was watching Bowling for Colinbine, (I think they had it on because of the VA Tech shooting) and I could undertand why he would do that. But hey I'm also obsessed with colinbine so yeah.

But hey, society has always been violent and it will always be violent. Hell, My Chemical Romance talks about murder too! But I don't agree with the media causes violence, so don't start yelling at me for that.
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April 21st, 2007 at 07:38pm
What do you think can be prevented to stop murders? There's not much that can be done to stop murders. Murder is far too common (unfortunately) and so is the ownership of weaponry.


What do you think the goverment should? do to help families with grief?
I think the government should pay like 15% of the funeral charges. Not that it's going to help, but it relieves some of the stress.

What are your views on murder?
I think murder is too common and is often thought in the mind of teens. (I won't lie. I think about doing it all the time.)


What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer? The same punishment given for every crime: jail time. I don't think the death sentance makes sence. "You murdered someone so we're going to murder you." Yeah, isn't that a bit contradictory?


How do you think so many teenagers were able to get hold of offensive weapons?
Parents, stupid store owners, ect.
Blue_Demon
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April 21st, 2007 at 07:58pm
rock_is_dead:
Hey, I'm from Texas so we just do lethal injection on eveybody.


I love that! LOL!
Sorry for the spam.

But back to the UK, I don't think people should be killed due to something called 'Crimes of Passion'. The best example and the most well known is the case of Ruth Ellis who was hung for the murder of her boyfriend. At the time we didn't have a law on that type of crime, and that was pretty much was she was hung ratehr than being sent to jail for a certain amount of time. Once the death sentence was carried out a lot of the countries, ie France, were stuned at the brutality of the case, considering that it was shown that Ruth Ellis had been treated badly, which was domestic abuse though there was nothing known about that back then.
Dejan_Revenge!
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April 21st, 2007 at 08:09pm
What do you think can be prevented to stop murders?

I think if you get the feeling someone is realy weird, the law should restrict that human to get professional help and / or medication

What do you think the goverment do to help families with grief?

Goverment does shit, they dont care about families.

What are your views on murder?

Well yeah what are my views. Well dont murder people.. its that easy.

What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer?

if you only kill 1 human being you should get LIFE long prison!

How do you think so many teenagers were able to get hold of offensive weapons?

I dont know how its in europe, but the USA, evreyone knows the gun law just sucks ass big time.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 03:17am
Nothing can be done to stop murders. It is as simple as that. Humans have killed each other in cold blood for hundreds if not thousands of years. It is our nature and some people have mental issues....

The right of bearing arms in America can't be abolished now...it is too late and it is not going to happen. The Government could control it more, but that's not on the top of their agenda right now.

The death penalty does not necessarily reduce murder rates. For example there are states in the US that have the death penalty and the murder rates stay the same.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 03:54am
Murders are bound to happen, it is in our nature to be violent infact so attempting to wipe out murder is useless.

Here in Australia the gun laws are really tight its really hard to get hands on a firearm and therefore shootings never ever happen where i live. This is probably to do with the massicre that occured a little under twenty years ago in tasmania where a deranged man slaughterd up to thirty or more people with automatic riffles. Since then the gun laws have tightend.

Personally i beleive there is no justification for murder which is normal but i dont believe in the old saying an "eye for an eye" so the death penalty for me is highly redundant seeing as if one person has lost their life how is it better if another individual were to loose his life murderer or not.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 05:06am
Age Sixx Racer.:
Murders are bound to happen, it is in our nature to be violent infact so attempting to wipe out murder is useless.

Here in Australia the gun laws are really tight its really hard to get hands on a firearm and therefore shootings never ever happen where i live. This is probably to do with the massicre that occured a little under twenty years ago in tasmania where a deranged man slaughterd up to thirty or more people with automatic riffles. Since then the gun laws have tightend.

Personally i beleive there is no justification for murder which is normal but i dont believe in the old saying an "eye for an eye" so the death penalty for me is highly redundant seeing as if one person has lost their life how is it better if another individual were to loose his life murderer or not.


Yeah are you talking about the Port Arthur Massacre? Becuase after that the gun laws became really strict.

But you can still get guns if you really want to, it's just not as easy as it is in America.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 08:24am
Blue_Demon:
kjw3107:

What are your views on murder? its wrong! nuff said!! what more is there to say or think about it?

What do you think the punishment should be for being a killer? like i know its controversial but i think for murderers the death penalty should be used

because with science we can be more definate that the person accused of the crime is in fact the right person

meaning limited chance of innocent people getting punished, but there should be restricitions and stuff to make sure that they can prooove they have the right person

otherwise total LIFE sentence, all the way to death

we need the most severe punishments possible for murderers


I kinda have to disagree with the death penalty; there's not much justice if we just kill the murders in prision; and I have 2 reasons, and one could probably be shot down really quickly:

1. It's an eye for an eye, and since the UK is majorly a Christian society, it really should not have us stooping to a level of a murderer. (This is the one that will get shot down quickly.)

2. Some people probably won't want the person who killed there family member to be killed; because that is pretty much an easy way out for them; they will never have to suffer for the guilt of what they have done, they will never know what it's like to be inside a box and be left behind while the world grows on without them; and pretty much the killer will get a short funeral service and be buried somewhere nice and soon people will probably forget while the family struggle to carry on.



yeah i sort of agree that it could be seen as an easy way out

but at the same time, it is a wellll scary way out

and like, the ulttttimateee punishment in a way, cos like you cant do anything worse than killing someone

but

although i said that should be used
if im honest im glad im not in a position to make that decision

cos its a tough one!
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April 22nd, 2007 at 02:48pm
The UK has a law and your only allowed to have a gun if your lisenced. Earlier on in the thread I said about someone got shot to roads from where I lived.

It was a teenager who did it. I don't know how they got hold of the gun. I am sure that teenagers can't get gun lisences and if they can, can't possesse one.
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April 23rd, 2007 at 04:59am
The fact that it's so easy to get a hold of a gun in some places is REDICULOUS. There are some states that allow anyone to go and get a gun that very day, without any kind of background check, gun license, 6 month wait, I.D., etc.
I thin kwe need to be more strict with our punishments for murders. It sickens me that killers get 6 years for killing someone else. If punishments were harsher, people MAY be less likely to commit crime.