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April 27th, 2007 at 06:03pm
Okay, I was looking up on depression, and I didn't see a depression thread so I started one.

1. Do you think there's really teenage depression, or are they just moody/hormonal/overreacting?
2. If a teen is depressed, is family support needed or can the teen get better by themselves/with the help of one close family member or friend(s)?
3. Can depression be treated without the help of a psychotherapist/medicine?
4. How?

I thought these questions would help us see your views. If anyone else has any more ideas feel free.
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April 27th, 2007 at 06:11pm
I happen to think that Depression can be treated without the therapists and the medication. All a person needs to do is talk about their problems and to feel like they are not alone. We all feel depressed for a while at least once in our life. It is just normal.
And plus, especially with the children, it could be all the hormones and stuff making them like that if there are not any explanations to their sadness.
I do think that most of the time, Depression can be treated without the help of medication.
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April 27th, 2007 at 07:15pm
1. Yes, I think there's teenage depression. I had it.

2. Depression is a mental disorder. It needs to be treated by a doctor.

3. Without medicine, yes. Without a therapist, no.

4. I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
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April 27th, 2007 at 07:15pm
i think there is teenage depression. honestly, emotions just catch up with us (adults 2) && we freak out feel weird && sad all the time. its even happened 2 me. the difference between adults && us is that adults MAY have more control of handling it.
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April 27th, 2007 at 07:20pm
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April 27th, 2007 at 07:24pm
1. Do you think there's really teenage depression, or are they just moody/hormonal/overreacting? i think it depends on the person. i DO believe that there really is teenage depression, but sometimes it can be people not necessarily overreacting, but thinking they're depressed when they just a little down not suffering from actual depression

2. If a teen is depressed, is family support needed or can the teen get better by themselves/with the help of one close family member or friend(s)?
family support helps, but some people arent close to their family so in that case friends are definately important too. I'd say they definately need the support of someone close to them!

3. Can depression be treated without the help of a psychotherapist/medicine?
Id say if its true depression then ... you need to atleast try to get help from one of these. Unless you can think of another option. Because just leaving yourself to get more depressed wouldnt be wise!

4. How? i dont have a clue, i guess helping to people who have previously been depressed would help people maybe figure out other methods
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April 28th, 2007 at 11:09am
1. Some teens are more sensitive. Emotional. So the normal moody/hormonal/overreacting changes into a teenage depression.
2. Talk to someone about it. A real close friend. And then maybe a doctor.
3. If you can talk about your problem with somebody who cares deeply and who's not making stupid jokes or anything, you don't need pills, I think.
4. Uh..
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April 28th, 2007 at 12:47pm
1. Do you think there's really teenage depression, or are they just moody/hormonal/overreacting?
There probably is, but a lot of people put it down to hormonal changes due to how similar they are.

2. If a teen is depressed, is family support needed or can the teen get better by themselves/with the help of one close family member or friend(s)?
Family support is always needed, however if the person feels more comfortable to talk to a friend then that's all right, so long as that friend is trust worthy. But speaking to a doctor is always a good idea too.

3. Can depression be treated without the help of a psychotherapist/medicine?
I think it really depends on how bad it is, a psychotherapist is there to listen to you and not judge you, they are someone to talk to and not make any comments.

4. How?
This part confuses me, how can people be treated? Go to a doctor and tell them how you are feeling, tell them everything and they can refer you to a therapist and probably perscribe medication, but if you don't wish to take them you should probably inform your doctor as well to see what they think about it.
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April 28th, 2007 at 01:02pm
Blue_Demon:
1. Do you think there's really teenage depression, or are they just moody/hormonal/overreacting?
There probably is, but a lot of people put it down to hormonal changes due to how similar they are.

I concur. The only way to tell is to get this type of X-Ray taken of your brain that will show the doctors whether or not you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
I'm not saying that teenagers can't be depressed, I'm just saying there's a difference between feeling depressed and having a mental disorder.
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April 28th, 2007 at 06:04pm
I don't really believe in depression. Before you light your torches and grab your pitchforks, think about this; in the middle ages, there may have been people who were more moody/emotional people than others, but this was never distinguished as a health issue. I don't think depression exists, and in my opinion I think people in modern times are far to over subscribed for many "mental health issues".

This may sound cold hearted, but did anyone have ADD in the 60's, 70's or 80's?
It's the same aesthetic. Yes, a certain person may be more sensitive or have terrible, mind consuming mood swings, but that is different from what depression was originally defined as. It used to be defined as a feeling of emptiness, empty of any emotion, including unhappiness. Now it has become, basically, the term used for more than average amounts of unhappiness.

So why do we now have children on prozac? Maybe because of the over subscription the mind has been weakened and lessened its defense against illnesses such as depression (in the same way if my parents took cough medicine every day of their lives, it would mean my genetics would give me a weak defense system against coughs as it would be used to the given help of medicine).

~ I'm sorry for not really answering the questions, but mainly my views are on depression in general rather than specifically teenage depression~
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April 28th, 2007 at 07:25pm
I think there is teenage depression, but people don't see it as depression. People oversee it and think that we are "just hormonal" or "moody." I don't know how it can be treated, but it should be.
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April 29th, 2007 at 01:04am
Wild Eyed Joker:
I don't really believe in depression. Before you light your torches and grab your pitchforks, think about this; in the middle ages, there may have been people who were more moody/emotional people than others, but this was never distinguished as a health issue. I don't think depression exists, and in my opinion I think people in modern times are far to over subscribed for many "mental health issues".

This may sound cold hearted, but did anyone have ADD in the 60's, 70's or 80's?
It's the same aesthetic. Yes, a certain person may be more sensitive or have terrible, mind consuming mood swings, but that is different from what depression was originally defined as. It used to be defined as a feeling of emptiness, empty of any emotion, including unhappiness. Now it has become, basically, the term used for more than average amounts of unhappiness.

So why do we now have children on prozac? Maybe because of the over subscription the mind has been weakened and lessened its defense against illnesses such as depression (in the same way if my parents took cough medicine every day of their lives, it would mean my genetics would give me a weak defense system against coughs as it would be used to the given help of medicine).

~ I'm sorry for not really answering the questions, but mainly my views are on depression in general rather than specifically teenage depression~

Yes, people in 60s, 70s, and 80s had ADD.
It just wasn't recognized as a disease.
Hitler was Bipolar.
But did he get treated?
No. It just wasn't in the cards then.
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April 29th, 2007 at 04:29am
druscilla; in rags:
Wild Eyed Joker:
I don't really believe in depression. Before you light your torches and grab your pitchforks, think about this; in the middle ages, there may have been people who were more moody/emotional people than others, but this was never distinguished as a health issue. I don't think depression exists, and in my opinion I think people in modern times are far to over subscribed for many "mental health issues".

This may sound cold hearted, but did anyone have ADD in the 60's, 70's or 80's?
It's the same aesthetic. Yes, a certain person may be more sensitive or have terrible, mind consuming mood swings, but that is different from what depression was originally defined as. It used to be defined as a feeling of emptiness, empty of any emotion, including unhappiness. Now it has become, basically, the term used for more than average amounts of unhappiness.

So why do we now have children on prozac? Maybe because of the over subscription the mind has been weakened and lessened its defense against illnesses such as depression (in the same way if my parents took cough medicine every day of their lives, it would mean my genetics would give me a weak defense system against coughs as it would be used to the given help of medicine).

~ I'm sorry for not really answering the questions, but mainly my views are on depression in general rather than specifically teenage depression~

Yes, people in 60s, 70s, and 80s had ADD.
It just wasn't recognized as a disease.
Hitler was Bipolar.
But did he get treated?
No. It just wasn't in the cards then.

Exactamundo.
Did cancer not exist in the middle ages because it was never documented? No, we just didn't have the technology and medical advancements that we do now to diagnose and treat it.

I don't agree with one in three kids (or whatever the statistics are these days, either way, they're horrific) being prescribed Ritalin for 'ADD' - in most cases, the parents of these problem kids need to wake up to themselves and realise that a strong dose of discipline is what's needed - I'm a strong advocate of giving a misbehaving child a smack, because calm, rational discussion USUALLY doesn't work on an unruly, impatient, frustrated child.
Depression is a similar enough matter - it exists all right, but doctors are far too lazy/busy/preoccupied to do the correct testing, and will simply hand out anti-depressant meds to anybody complaining of being unhappy.
Yes, unhappiness happens to all of us at some point.
But there is a vast difference between 'depressed' and 'depression'.
I was diagnosed with clinical depression in my teens after months of rigorous testing, misdiagnoses and therapy - it was a chemical imbalance which could only be treated with medication. Sad to say, I didn't want to buckle under and do what my parents and the doctors were telling me, so I threw out my meds and started self-medicating with illegal substances and binge-drinking, which I thought at the time worked, but when I look back, I should have just given in and realised that 'they' actually had my back, rather than my paranoid belief that they were out to get me and dope me up so I'd be docile and reminiscent of putty in their hands.

I think it's a huge issue in this day and age because teens are no longer innocents - we're being forced into worrying about our futures, making huge life decisions, dabbling with drugs and alcohol, watching far too much TV, being neglected by career-driven parents or parents who really have no idea what to do with their growing children, and we're pretty much handed everything on a platter.
Then, when something goes wrong, we just don't have the coping skills that others have, or that our parents/grandparents generation had, because they had to work hard, make their own fun, and stand on their own two feet - they learned to do it themselves, rather than rely on everyone else, and then blame everyone else when stuff doesn't work out.
That's where the huge rise in depression is coming from - being spoiled, or thinking that everyone else has got something we don't, and that we deserve it without working for it, and then we get all upset.
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April 29th, 2007 at 07:36pm
i think depression is really a sickness and should not be ignored family should help the person that's in depression cuz it can get into suidical thoughts
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April 30th, 2007 at 10:58am
Wow i was just thinking of starting a depression thread... but i honestly think i have some kind of depression or maybe bi-polar. I don't know how to tell my mom though which makes it worse on me... and well there have been about 5 deaths in 4 weeks that were surrounded around me but before that i felt like i did have something. School doesn't help because there are so many idiots and i guess i listen to MCR cause it is the way i feel sometimes... eh idk.. and people may have depression when they are teens cause of the idoits... lol
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April 30th, 2007 at 11:54am
^
No offense, but you aren't a doctor and can't diagnose Bipolar.
Bipolar is the new bisexual. Everybody claims they have it.
I am Bipolar [diagnosed by multiple physicians] and it annoys me when people claim they have it.
Get diagnosed before you go spewing off your mental disorders.
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April 30th, 2007 at 06:05pm
me, personally, have a very biased opinion on this subject. i myself, just got over depression a few months ago. given it wasnt a very bad case, i do believe in it. it wasnt just a bad mood, bad moods dont last for 4 months without letting up even a little. but with the help of my friends, i did get better, bc they helped me see the good in life, so i stopped cutting, which was my first step to getting better, and i gradually got happier. my friends made me write in a journal every night b4 bed, and i had to write down all the good things that happened that day. its corny, but it worked, so yes i do believe that it is real and it can be cured without a specialists help
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April 30th, 2007 at 06:49pm
druscilla; in rags:
^
No offense, but you aren't a doctor and can't diagnose Bipolar.
Bipolar is the new bisexual. Everybody claims they have it.
I am Bipolar [diagnosed by multiple physicians] and it annoys me when people claim they have it.
Get diagnosed before you go spewing off your mental disorders.

Ahh, thank you. I'm also sick and tired of seeing everyone under the age of 19 claiming to have this, that, the other... my disorders were misdiagnosed again and again until my parents forced doctors into running numerous tests, got second and third and fourth opinions, and took me to about six different therapists to try and shed some light on my situation.
People don't seem to realise that there's a difference between 'depressed' and 'depression'. A vast difference. Don't mistake one for the other.
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April 30th, 2007 at 07:23pm
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^
No offense, but you aren't a doctor and can't diagnose Bipolar.
Bipolar is the new bisexual. Everybody claims they have it.
I am Bipolar [diagnosed by multiple physicians] and it annoys me when people claim they have it.
Get diagnosed before you go spewing off your mental disorders.

Ahh, thank you. I'm also sick and tired of seeing everyone under the age of 19 claiming to have this, that, the other... my disorders were misdiagnosed again and again until my parents forced doctors into running numerous tests, got second and third and fourth opinions, and took me to about six different therapists to try and shed some light on my situation.
People don't seem to realise that there's a difference between 'depressed' and 'depression'. A vast difference. Don't mistake one for the other.

I know what you mean about misdiagnoses.
I was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic.
Then as a spoiled brat at one of the top medical facilities in the world.
My mom wishes she had sued because two years later I was a self-mutilating, bulimic mental patient.

I'm call myself a self-diagnosed obsessive-compulsive. I know it's probably not medically accurate, but I don't go around saying 'I totally have OCD'.
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April 30th, 2007 at 10:00pm
^ I went through a pretty similar situation, so it would seem.
I recall being admitted to a 'private hospital' (read: asylum) six hours away from my hometown, and I was supposed to stay there for six weeks. I lasted four days before the social worker handling my case called my father and basically said, 'She's too old to be living at home with you and her mum,' (I was 18 going on 19), 'Get a little money together for bond on her own apartment and a couple of weeks' rent for her and as soon as she moves out, your problems will be solved.'
I didn't move out, so I can't say how successful that option would have been if my parents had had the spare couple of thousand dollars, but my issues escalated to self-mutilation, drug abuse, and a general course of self-destruction that nobody could stop, and I didn't want to stop.

This, by the way, happened over a year after I was diagnosed as clinically depressed, following misdiagnoses of bi-polar, schizophrenia and 'possible split personality disorder' (I have no idea where that particular therapist came up with that, unless she was describing my extreme mood swings).
I prefer to stick with the 'depression' diagnosis, as it is the closest to my symptoms, and I have recovered somewhat since I quit doing drugs and started turning my life around. I still have my down weeks, but they're improving slowly.