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the narrator.
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 2557 | June 8th, 2007 at 07:27pm
So I was in this thread and I started ranting about how Gerard's voice has changed since bullets.
It was off topic since the thread was about concept albums, so I decided to make one.
In bullets, you can plainly hear the raw emotion in Gerard's voice, and the anguish when he sings something along the lines of Early Sunsets.
Also, there was a lot more screaming.
In TBP, his voice is more generic, and well...hes singing.
In only a few lines of a few songs do I hear the old emotion in his voice, Cancer being the most, Disenchanted being up there too.
But the thing is, most of it just catchy. Theres none of the raw emotion that was so...huge in bullets. Its just singing.
Personally, mcr saved my life. It was the emotion and anguish in Gerard's voice that did it. TBP is fun to listen to when you work out, and by no means am I bashing it, its an amazing album. Theres just no pain or feeling.
Now, I know that voices change, mature, and singing abilities grow and change over time, but the emotion behind them shouldnt.
Also, it may just be because the old drummer is in them, but on the mcr website they dont even mention the Vampires and Honey videos in their media section. They also describe it as 'when they were discovering themselves' [I think]
So you think they dont want bullets to be that well known?
What are you hoping for with their next album?
Discuss:
- Gerard's voice changes
- The Honey and Vampires videos
- Emotions with songs like Early Sunsets, Desert Song, and Demolition Lovers compared to songs like House Of Wolves, Teenagers, and The Sharpest Lives.
- Hopes for the next album
- Do you want a return of the bullets era?
- Do you think Gerard's new sound attracts more teenies?
[NOTE: I love our boys no matter what, and even if Gerard's voice dosnt go back to the era of bullets emotion-wise, I will still support and love them all the same. It would just be nice to have the emotion from the songs that saved my life in their new album. Thanks you. Please dont spam, and ive had trouble with actually getting a sucsessful topic, so please share your feelings!] |
Burnout
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Male
Posts: 1153 | June 8th, 2007 at 07:36pm i totally think that Gerards voice has very must changed sense Bullets and Revenge, and i defintly think he should think about what he is doing with his voice
i personally hope the next album will be like a mix of bullets and revenge, with a dash of parade.
do i want a return of the bullest era? hell, yeah. |
folkin' around.
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 2260 | June 8th, 2007 at 08:08pm Yeah, I noticed that the Bullets video weren't on the website either...I thought that was weird.
They are with Reprise/Warner Bros., right? Maybe WB didn't want the singles on there because it was from a different label.
Okay, that doesn't seem logical but, it's still weird why they aren't on there.
You can definately tell Gerard's voice has changed but, I like it on all three albums.
Bullets was very raw, Revenge was obnoxious & flirty, and Parade was mature.
All qualitys I like. I do wish he could try and combine all techniques on a future album. But, who knows? Maybe his voice will grow even more.
The emotion, I think, is still some what there. It doesn't come off as strong as
Bullets, of course. |
fabulous killjoy.
Moderator
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 46256 | June 8th, 2007 at 08:21pm Gerard isn't drunk anymore and he got vocal training.
That's why his voice changed. The emotion is still there. |
Jesserz
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 2616 | June 8th, 2007 at 08:28pm House of Wolves isn't... "generic" as such, but I think it has a more commercialised sound. Actually, I take that back, I will say the vox are commercialised, the sounds are really good. It's one of my favourites off the album, with Sleep.
But yeah. In HOW It's easy to sing along. I think with Bullets & Revenge you could never perfect the vox like Gerard did because there was no set melody or melodies that you had to follow when singing along, whereas in TBP there is more set vox melodies.
About the videos, that sucks because I actually really like the Honey video. Vampires is just funny because of how they all look & Gerards facials.  I don't think the band should discourage that album, because they did it in the roughest conditions & its the main favourite with the fans [as far as i can see] & their emotion on there is definitley heard. I miss that.
I don't think it's just Gerards voice that attracts the "teenies" [more like the generation who want quantity not quality] I think its the overall commercialised feel. I dunno. They say they don't write singles. So who knows.
AND!!! What happened to the super cool long song names  The ones that weren't so blatantly obviously !! |
Mother War
Banned
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 1470 | June 8th, 2007 at 08:35pm Yeah; he has had vocal training
and yes; i think the really catchy songs attracts teenies and gets them on TRL
But its not just his voice, i don't think
because mostly music on there has a catchy chorus no matter what its about
since WTTBP was basically about death.
Yes; i like Gerard's voice in Bullets and Revenge
Sounds raw and intense XD
i love the way it sounds.
And i would love some more screaming 
Gerard's voice now, sounds mature? i guess
Hmm; and you're right
they never seem to mention Bullets often :[
But a new Bullets era, as you mentioned it, sounds good now that i think about it
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alexander skarsgard.
In The Murder Scene
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 22960 | June 8th, 2007 at 08:56pm Bullets sounds more hardcore, Revenge sounds like inbetween TBP and Bullets. Like, hardcore opera?. TBP sounds like an opera. It's very beautiful and although it is a bit hard too, it has most mellow songs. Does that make sense?.
Gerard's voice in TBP is much different since Bullets. I think...his voice fits the songs and the lyrics in all of their albums. As I said, to me, Bullets was more hard so his voice was angrier?. It was more of screams and getting a point across. Revenge his voice still had some anger but also you can hear the softer side. His voice in TBP is amazing. It's very melodic in it's own way..very graceful..does that make sense too? lol. |
Mother War
Banned
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 1470 | June 8th, 2007 at 09:20pm Yeah; didn't Gerard say in his other albums he was very angry
so of course when he sang, he was gonna sound angry
and TBP, is mature and he's not so angry, depressed or an alchoholic.
But yeah, his voice did fit every album, and goes with each song.
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SCREAMdon'tTALK.
Jazz Hands
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 320 | June 8th, 2007 at 09:26pm Evil Angel:Bullets sounds more hardcore, Revenge sounds like inbetween TBP and Bullets. Like, hardcore opera?. TBP sounds like an opera. It's very beautiful and although it is a bit hard too, it has most mellow songs. Does that make sense?.
Gerard's voice in TBP is much different since Bullets. I think...his voice fits the songs and the lyrics in all of their albums. As I said, to me, Bullets was more hard so his voice was angrier?. It was more of screams and getting a point across. Revenge his voice still had some anger but also you can hear the softer side. His voice in TBP is amazing. It's very melodic in it's own way..very graceful..does that make sense too? lol. i completely agree with that. like thats actually my thoughts but from
another persons head aha. i'm hoping that the next album maybe will have
a collage of sound from maybe all three of the albums. i'm not exactly sure
what it is i'm wanting. but i'm sure whatever they come up with i'll love, and we
all will. |
Quinn Allman
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 3374 | June 8th, 2007 at 09:46pm You can definitely tell a big difference in Gerard's voice. It's changed from each record. He's growing and maturing when it comes to singing. |
Albus Severus
Joining The Black Parade
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 188 | June 8th, 2007 at 09:47pm I definitely hear the emotion in Gerard's voice in Parade. Is it the same as Bullets? Nope. Cuz he is actually 'singing'. I can't say I prefer one type to the other. It's just a different style of singing. It's easier for me to sing along to TBP, though. (lol) |
SCREAMdon'tTALK.
Jazz Hands
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 320 | June 8th, 2007 at 09:53pm likepixiedust:I definitely hear the emotion in Gerard's voice in Parade. Is it the same as Bullets? Nope. Cuz he is actually 'singing'. I can't say I prefer one type to the other. It's just a different style of singing. It's easier for me to sing along to TBP, though. (lol) i definetly agree that i can't say i prefer one to the other.
all the albums, and different styles are amazing. i love it all no matter what.
haha and yeah it's much much easier to sing along to TBP. |
DROP DEAD!
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1563 | June 8th, 2007 at 10:50pm I DONT CARE! ill love them no metter wat! |
RedTieOut
Fabulous Killjoy
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 115 | June 8th, 2007 at 10:55pm I don't know...I still feel something but it isn't pain. I think the emotions are now more of hope than pain... |
SCREAMdon'tTALK.
Jazz Hands
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 320 | June 8th, 2007 at 11:52pm i think that's exactly right. |
Captain Jack Wonka.
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 7307 | June 9th, 2007 at 09:28am yeah... I think he lost the emotion of pain and anguish in his voice
but later on I realized that they're more on giving hope... |
Sid
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 2065 | June 9th, 2007 at 10:45am He was younger too so his voice was bound to change a little bit. Plus the smoking deepened it I reckon.
And he was a depressed, drunk. I think Bullets was alot more theraputic for Gerard, so yeah there's gonna be alot of emotion. There still is if you listen to Three Cheers and even TBP, you can still it. It just comes through differently.
Also, there are other songs with emotion in them on TBP album apart from Cancer and Disenchanted. What about Sleep, I Don't Love You and Famous Last Words?
This new album is so different because, as Gerard said, they did some stuff they've always wanted to do and it's a new direction. (Although I love it, I do have to say it's my least favourite of the three)
As for the next album, I hope it is more like Bullets because it's one of my favourites and Gerard's voice is amazing on it. I have heard there's gonna be more accoustic and live tracks on it.
Either way, I'm sure it'll be great...I hope it willl anyways!
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fxmous-lxst-words
Joining The Black Parade
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 226 | June 9th, 2007 at 10:59am i love gerard [and his voice] but i really do like the emotion behind bullets and revenge also. there are some songs on TBP that show a lot of emotion, but not as much as revenge&&bullets. i hope the next album will be more like them *hint hint gerard!!* haha. |
stitches
Fabulous Killjoy
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 120 | June 9th, 2007 at 11:20am what you said was exactly what i have been thinking off since tbp was released. i feel that gerard's lost all that genuine emotion. it's as if he's making the record for the sake of making one. i listen to the old songs and i can feel the emotions that he's conveying through the songs that's why i still prefer the previous two albums. but then again, he was going through some pretty tough times making the last two records so that could probably explain why there was so much of that raw emotions that were being put into the songs. |
SicTransitGloria
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 1150 | June 9th, 2007 at 11:23am i loved revenge and bullets, let's put it bluntly. my parents used to go around the house with earplugs in, but i didn't care. it was my source of understanding, my insight into their world, and it was so comforting to be able to sing along with all that raw emotion like we were all in the same boat and lending eachother comfort - or the last packet of skittles, however you wanna see it.
TBP is fantabulous, and id still give it 10/10 for the lyrics, melodies, singing etc. and probably the emotion.
but it's a different kind of emotion - more sorrowful like in Cancer than angry and bitter and hateful like in Bullets and Revenge.
i think they have matured before we have, and we kinda feel like they're speeding away a bit, leaving us in our "wilderness" again.
i think also the love side of their songs has gone a bit more to the mature side. in Demolition Lovers it was so romantic - so deep, so raw. It made you wanna reach out and give them your own life just for making you that song. It made you love them so much it hurt your very insides.
i think TBP really doesn't have that anymore. It's less devotion and more tradgic breakups - like in I Don't Love You and Famous Last Words.
that kinda disappoints me, not because they've let us down, but because i still haven't managed to catch up with them, to that stage when you feel more hope than bitterness and self-destruction.
anyway, i love them no matter what, and i hope their next album is more like bullets and revenge - but not because they're going through hell and Gee is depressed all over again, or anything like that. |
