Gerard, Ray, Mikey, Frank and Bob, you have to read this

keve'sLadyofSorrows:

MCRmom:

Deb are you excited about the MSG show??

OMFG you have NO idea, Girl (okay wait, of course you do LOL) Tickets are bought, and May cannot come fast enough for me.

OMG you have ALL the dancing icons you crazy chick! I love it!

Tabitha... THANKS! I found the Runaways Saga, but they didn't have no. 26 at the moment, so I'm going back in 2 days to get that, and I will pick up the rest of the ones you recommended as well. The Runaways Saga was cool... I like the concept. You are a certified comic geek. If I hang around, maybe it will rub off? And with the Gee/Hart thing...jeez, he must be DESPERATE.

Anyway, all of you dudes have fun doing whatever you do offline. ily.

Holy crap I haven't been on INO in months. What did I miss? XD

Oh man Demonic LOL well let's see (looking for links as I post this)

-The Chilean fans are upset with INO because we were discussing several rumours at once emanating from there:

1) That some items were tossed onstage which alternately confused and irritated Gerard - there was speculation that said items could have been used panties, an animal heart, some sort of deranged teddy bear; and

2) The dudes met with one group of overzealous teenies in the Chilean airport. This group both knocked Gerard to the ground and prevented the dudes from getting into their vehicle. Verita posted this video as evidence of how mean Gerard is, because he refused to stop and take pictures with this particular group of girls, and after being asked 400 times in a row, said "Can't you understand, please?" then Medhi leapt in with "NO!!!" but everyone thought it was Gerard who yelled that.

-Lin and Alicia were both rumoured to be pregnant for the 229,257, 158th time apiece. We worked out that Lin must be an elephant, since the latest pregnancy rumour has her due in early 2009. Perhaps they thought she was going to give birth to the new MCR cd?

-Frank left the tour in Chile due to "personal reasons" again. A security guard at their hotel told a fan his grandmother had died (again.)

-The boys are stoked to be ending TBP tour at Madison Square Garden.

-The second new song has a new incarnation.

-Some dude believes Gerard is Satan because he failed to mention in his Dark Horse interviews that he contributed at age 15 to one of his mad comics.

-We all think this girl is made of win.

Welcome back, Demonic! We missed you. I think Debs summed it all up above, actually, she posted things I didn't even hear about, and I didn't go anywhere!

Oh, but to throw in and piggyback, a few of us are hitting the new tour. I'm flying up for the Chicago show on April 17, MCRmom's driving in and I hope we're setting up a meeting time and place while there, and Debs and Jules (US Jules, not Canadian Jules) are hitting at least one or two shows apiece, with them possibly meeting at one? Am I correct on that? Did I miss anybody?

Okay, so...

I've read a lot of things going on in the Rumours thread, and it actually shakes me to the core.

Throwing what could've possibly been an animal's heart onto the stage, Gerard allegedly being tackled to the ground by some over-zealous fans... There are no words for it.

I find it disgusting, and all the excuses that were made for this kind of behaviour being almost remotely acceptable ('MCR don't come there often and people get excited', and so on) is utter bullshit.

And just so you know (for the Chileans), I don't care if you live in the Arctic or the fucking rainforest, you dont treat people that way. Gerard, Frank, Ray, Mikey, Bob, James, Matt or anyone else for that matter, are not pieces of meat!

They are just as human as the rest of us. So when I hear that Gerard or Medhi or the fucking wind (i.e. whoever said that) was mean for saying no to taking pics and signing stuff, I say good for him/ them. He/ they were thinking about their safety and God forbid, maybe even the safety of the fans.

Nobody here is singling you out as a country! And if some people forgot to generalise, sorry. But not everyone can go around trying to appease everybody else; things just dont work like that. Someone is bound to get pissy, so please put your toys back in the pram.

And this whole thing about Frank being away... Is it not a possibilty that he may be sick? It would explain him playing some shows and not being at others. Or maybe that's just me...

/ mini tirade.

I dunno... Maybe I didn't read enough of the Rumours thread, mis-understood the whole thing completely or still strung out from getting 2 hours of my half sleeve done, but I felt the need to get shit off my chest.

Much love! I'm going to get some much needed sleep, if I can leave work early, and try and keep the nausea at bay.

Love you guys muchly!
xoxo

Everyone in my office is sick - seems like we can't beat whatever we have.

I just don't get attacking people - not my cup o tea.

I'm definitely seeing them at MSG. Definitely.

We cannot wait.

All I can do is stare at the calendar anxiously.

Lol, I am still every jealous that you guys get to see them. But I know you deserve it so it's not a bad type of jealousy.

I have had two dreams in the past week where I missed going to an MCR show. In the last one my mum asked me to go with her, and I chose to go somewhere else instead, and was utterly miserable and heartbroken at missing it. My subconcious is insane, this may be becasue I haven't chosen which summer rock festival I want to go to, Lol... I'm scared of missing something at the other Fest.

I hope you guys are all having a nice day. I have had a horrible work day and my work colleagues made me cry, making me feel like a complete baby. They accused me of doing my job badly and randomly started naming a list of issues they had with my work, which is stupid because most of the time i'm running my own room next door, Wtf? My superviser had to tell them I was doing what she had told me to do, and that's why I wasn't helping them do their job.*sigh* I really don't want to go in tommorow. They really made me feel like a horrible person who could do nothing right. And worse this is the first tiny sign of an issue i've had from them!

*breathe* Sorry guys! Rant over, i've just had a bad day I suppose.

xxx

I am so sorry you had a bad day. It sounds like they were being a jerk because they had to do their job on their own. I know it is easier said than done, brush yourself off - you only need to worry about what your supervisor thinks -- and it sounds like he or she thinks you are doing a good job! You are good people!

Karlie, you were there for me when I had a similar situation, know that I am here for you now. It sucks when you bust your ass to do your job and people don't appreciate it. And, when it's a complete bolt out of the blue when you think you're doing a good job (which is exactly what I had the other week myself) it stings twice as much. Know that I know how you are feeling, am empathizing with you, and wish you nothing but the very best. Don't call in -- go in, work 2x as hard, and show them that they cannot control you. Keep your smile even though you are screaming inside, lead by example, and you will come out on top.

Personally, now that I've had time to get over my anger, disenchantment, and hurt feelings that I had before, I've taken the reins, changed a ton of things, and basically put the responsibility back on my staff, where it should have been all along. Today was one of the best days of work this year, because I got to get out of all the stupid "managerial" duties and just got to play with my kids. We sang silly songs, did stupid dances, and talked about Star Wars. I feel better knowing that if nothing else, I've made sure that the next generation knows that HAN SHOT FIRST. We played four-square and freeze tag and did the Name Game song. I got to lead by example and basically tell my staff: This is how it should be. No more excuses. There's no "lead, follow, or get out of the way." It's "Lead, or get shit-canned."

Nat, I was in Rumors again the other day (reposting something I'd put in here, for Deb) and saw some of that ick. I hate to say it, but sadly, the outstanding bad is what will be remembered. Only getting to see someone once is no reason to do some of the things that were done there. Your post here was amazing. Kudos, and thanks for making me laugh. I only got to meet Joss Whedon once ever in my life (and he is the center of my geekdom 'verse) and I didn't tackle him to the ground, throw an animal heart or my underpants at him, or harass him to the point of disgust. It's a piss-poor excuse for pitiful behavior. I spoke with him calmly, intelligently, and asked before I touched him in any manner. I respect him, and it's because I respect him that I treated him like a human being and kept my cool. And I wanna see pictures of that half-sleeve!! (when it's done, unless you want to show us the making of, that would be awesome too!)

Sorry if this is really dumping on you guys, but I'm having a real worry and a real shit time here, and I actually don't know what to do...

My little sister (19) has been upset, and verging on unstable lately, and it's taken a real turn for the worse. Previously this week, she got violent with my mum, and so my parents sent her to stay with me, in the hope that she would prefer it. But she got violent with me too, and one of my housemates, and ended up trying to trash my house. She was screaming all this really hurtful stuff, about how I have never been a sister to her, and calling me a whore, and saying that I steal from her and go through her stuff, all of which I have never done. And I know that it's because she's unwell, but it doesn't make it much easier to deal with.

The problem is, she can't see that it's her that isn't well, and thinks everyone else has a problem, so we can't get her to get help. But I'm really worried that she's going to hurt herself, or someone else. And she literally isn't listening, not at all, she doesn't even know what conversation she's in, and her thought processes are completely erratic.

I just thought i'd come to you guys...as my fountain of knowledge and support...cause I just don't know what to do. Love you all.xxx

^^ Loz, you know I love you, but I have to ask, is your sister taking any drugs? Is there any chance *at all* that she may do something to hurt herself to the point of hospitalization? Or any chance that she may do that to you, your housemates, or your parents? Is there any chance that she may be pregnant? Is this the first time that she has had this kind of situation, or is this an ongoing thing?

If there is a chance that she will hurt herself, you, or someone nearby in the immediate future, you need to call the authorities immediately and get her the help that she needs. Get them involved, get her forcibly put into custody if need be. To me, this is her cry for help; this is her saying that she's reached her breaking point and is looking for someone to help her, somewhere to turn. While she will most assuredly despise you immediately for doing so, getting the authorities involved will get her the help that she needs to stabilize and heal. Accept her screaming, yelling, and namecalling -- but get her the help she needs. It will hurt you almost beyond bearing to see her like that, but know that they will take her to people who can help her. Turn away if you can't stand to see it but be strong enough to do it. Once she has the help that she is crying out for, and gets herself back to where she needs to be, she will realize that it was tough love (emphasis on the LOVE) that made you call in the first place.

PM me IMMEDIATELY if you need anything, anyone at all. I have PMed you my phone numbers if you need a listening ear. Do not hesitate to call them at any time.

Oh man this thread just needs a whole shitload of hugs, doesn't it, so let me start off by doing this:

HUGS TO THREAD

One at a time: Karlie, Tabitha, I too went through a similar experience at work, and it is very painful. Tabitha, I wasn't so much of a help to you then as I should have been, because I was going through it still myself. For that I apologize. I really didn't get that situation resolved until a few days ago, despite the presence of a new job opportunity - my old company tried to ruin that for me. I feel what you're going through, Karlie. The company is trying to break you, force you out, so they don't have to pay your unemployment. Hang tough and make them fire you. Don't leave their offices without a letter of recommendation and agreement to terminate you without cause. I'm sorry to say it has most likely come to that, unless you are somehow able to turn the situation as Tabitha did. I wasn't - my place was too small and my bosses too inherently evil. Know that we are your support system, though, be strong. They are NOT better than you! They are not smarter than you, and their karma is shot to hell right now.

Lauryn, Tabitha gave you some very thorough advice there - everything I would have advised, she advised. I will just add my support. I know how difficult it is to watch someone you love go through such turmoil with themselves, and it's very painful to have it taken out on you when you are just trying to offer them your support. Try to remove yourself from the lashing out and know that she does it because she is hurting. I do think that her issues are too big for you to solve, and that professional intervention is needed. It's tricky, though, because young people tend to resist help - you want to try and backdoor it with perhaps a younger therapist who doesn't use the formal title and knows how to endear him or herself to kids by dancing around the issues a little bit. Under no circumstances, however, can she be allowed to physically assault you, your mom, or anyone else. Let her know in no uncertain terms that that will not be tolerated, and if she does it again, be sure and follow up your thread with a lovely little trip for her in the back of a police car. Boot camp might be another option for you to look into, but be sure she's not pregnant first, and check their stats - some of them have been known to lose kids.

Bre...sigh...I've PM'd you.

Lauryn, I cant say anthing more than Tabitha and Deb, but know you have folks who are willing to listen and who care.

It's kinda silly, but I'm looking at the calendar and I giggled a little, because today is a day that only exists once every 4 years. Is that silly? Probably. But it's like I want to do something amazing today. I don't want to let it be just another day. Then I think that tomorrow starts a new month, and it just has to be better, because this month has been so shitty for so many people. I'm oddly optimistic today. I kinda like it.

Deb, no worries at all. I'm just glad that we both got through it together. Karlie, give 'em hell, kid. Lauryn, please update soon. I'm so worried about you now.

The rest of this week and next is going to be a blur, I have so much going on. MegaCon is next weekend and since I'm the local I'm the designated drop point for all the Hero merch and display pieces. Mike Weiringo's final pages are on their way here. To my house. I get to hold them. It's a heady feeling. The FedEx guy is going to hate me I'm sure, I have boxes upon boxes of comics, artwork, and various merch coming here. My poor little Civic -- I hope Annabelle can handle all the stuff! And due to a surgery I just found out I need to have, this may have to be my last con of the year. I'm going to savor it. It's a good one to end on, if I have to end so early in the year.

To the boys, wherever they may be, we're here. We'll always be right here. For you, and for each other. Keeping the faith. Love you.

Aw thanks so much guys. Reading the supportive posts in this thread has made it a little easier for me to go into work in just over an hour. I'm going to be strong, i'm not going to let the little people get me down. Because it is only my 'equals' and not my superiors who are hassling me.

I don't respond to bullying I respond to adult conversation and compromise. And all I could think when I got home last night was Gerard saying at the end of my concert last year "Don't take anybodies shit", Lol... lame I know, but it made me more stubborn for some reason. I think my main challenge is to persuade my superviser not to quit her job, because they've been giving her a lot of hassel as well, and shes about ready to give up, but I know she can do it. There are five members of staff in my workplace and those two bithces have now bullied the other three into a point of severe distress, one at a time.

Again thanks so much guys, it means so much, it really has made me feel that little bit stronger. And Tab, I will not be able to get Give 'Em Hell Kid, outta my head all day now.

x..touching_hands..x:

Sorry if this is really dumping on you guys, but I'm having a real worry and a real shit time here, and I actually don't know what to do...

Hey, I just wanted to say that I have seen two loved ones Hospitalised for mental health issues, and it is a very upsetting thing to have to do. But for me, in both cases, it worked out for the better in the long run, and the people knew that. I was living with a suicidal schizophrenic for a year and a half, I loved him so I did what I could, but sometimes people really do need professional help. I really hope things work out for you hun.

To The Thread- Thanks so much guys, you've helped more than you know. *hugs*