Gerard, Ray, Mikey, Frank and Bob, you have to read this

Thank you so much for that guys. I'm going to drive to my parents this weekend so we can talk about it properly, and try to get her some proper help. Your posts really helped me feel less 'lost', and more capable, so I really appreciate it. And thank you for the PM Tabitha *hugs*.

I think we're all just having to face up to the fact that she's going to be very angry at us in the short term whatever we do, so we may as well do the best we can for her.

Thank you again, so, so much. I'll update when I know a little bit more.

And Green Faerie - why don't you get all the people who are being bullied to sit down together. That way you can present a united front to these bullies, and show them that their childish tactics are not going to work anymore. It's much harder to victimise people when they are looking out for each other.

*Thread group hug*

I don't have any real advice Lauryn, but I think it's also possible that your sister has some kind of imbalance (bipolar, depression) that's causing her to be irrational. If she's really not listening, and making wild accusation when all you intend to do is help her, then it sounds to me like she's lost touch with reality, and she no longer understands the consequences of her actions. I sure hope you can get her the help she needs, no matter what.

I personally have gone thru depression for the last few years and it's no fun. Fortunately it was mild (compared to what your sister sounds like she's going thru) and it's mostly seasonal at this point; but I still remember what it was like at its worst. Even though I resisted it at first, medication helped me. Truth be told, the counsellor I finally went to see wasn't a hell of a lot of help. (Nor was the one I saw last year. Maybe I just don't know what to expect.) But then again, I was neither violent nor suicidal--just sad.

Be well and take care--your sister needs your love more now than ever, and it sounds like she has it.

HI! Deb, thanks for the update - I also missed alot of that news..... maybe we should have a weekly update on here just to keep us in the loop!

I find it absolutely disturbing that so called "fans" can turn on the object of their "adoration" in a second. The smallest insignificant thing make them "dissapointed, disillusioned" and turns Gerard in to the devil.... but all the great things he and the rest of the boys do just go unnoticed or uncommented upon. Why is this happening? Is this the new "fandom", is this how you appreciate the people who inspire you? WEIRD! It doesn't even matter if the negativity is falesely created or only in someones imagination.....hmmmm. That is not the way I opperate at all.

BOYS, JUST KNOW NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH THIS NEW TREND - WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE TRUE FANS AND TO RESPECT THE ARTISTS WHO BRING US SO MUCH JOY.

That girl in youre post Deb, is definitely made of win! I just wonder how long it will take before its all over the place.... Gerard stole Shakespears unpublished writings.... oh how could he.... I lost my faith etc etc etc... insert random negativity here.... hahahahaha! Let the games begin.

I too, am looking at the calendar and giggling to myself - only 21 days until My Coke Fest! 30 seconds to mars and Korn! Cannot wait....still too bad that MCR couldnt come, at least they wouldnt be mobbed or jumped here.... only stalked silently and deliberately. We are not big on mobbing celebs here, I think because when you see one of them types here you are not sure whether it really is one or just someone who looks like them.... Its like wildlife spotting!

Okay .... must calm down and give support and hugs to all who need it in here! Thanks for being fabulous and keep on rocking!

Gawd, this thread needs a hug and some hot chocolate. *hands out hot chocolate*

Everybody needs a hug.

Can I have tea instead? Unsweetened?

x..touching_hands..x:

There's pretty much nothing I can say that hasn't already been said, and I definately agree with everybody who says that you should get professional help for your sister. My best friend (she's actually more like a sister at this point) suffered severe depression for most of 2006 and into 2007, and I know how scary it is to see someone you really care about hurting like that. As hard as it is to get professional help, it is always worth it. Sometimes you just have to accept that the whole situation is way over your head. When we told the school guidance counselor about my friend, they got her a social worker and today she is a very happy girl.

It was a slightly different case for me though, because she wasn't being violent or anything like your sister, and she wanted help. As it sounds like your sister is isolated in her own world, it may be more difficult to get her help, and she will probably be quite angry at first, but in the end she'll thank you for it.

Remeber, we're all here for you if you want to talk about it. *brings out cookies to go with the hot chocolate*

Loz, as always, my thoughts are with you. Call or PM me anytime, and keep me posted. Keep smiling and know that with help and love, this too shall pass, and once your sister receives treatment, you'll have her back just the way you remember her. You may have to help her pick up the pieces, but at least you'll be together, and your bond will be strengthened. ILY tons.

I just have to say how much I love everyone in this thread. I love how supportive everyone is. This thread makes me so proud and brings me such peace every day. Knowing that everyone here *truly* cares about each other. Kisses to everyone here. I love each and every one of you.

Anyone have a life transplant I could order by Monday? LOL <hugs thread>

Psst MCR: Don't ever go back to Chile God I'm just fucking kidding! Seriously though, some fandom restraint is BADLY in order.

Hey thread. I went to my second concert ever last night, Jimmy Eat World, and it was amazing although i'm pretty much sure I nearly died. Guys were starting proper mosh pits and punching each other, which I can understand for bands like System or Slayer... but Jimmy Eat World? Lol, bizarre. I got to see their faces, Lol... to me that's a good view, almost worth nearly dying for.

And on the work front, the two women are still being complete bitches, but my Superviser rang my bosses bosses before they could, and she told them she was very happy with my work and had no issues, so they said to reassure me that i'm doing nothing wrong. The two evil women didn't like that news though so they have decided to blank me like I don't exist, so childish, they didn't even say two words to me yesterday, Pfuit! *shakes head* No loss to me! But if the children pick up on their negativity I will definately complain about them!

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend. *hugs*

xxx

keve'sLadyofSorrows:

Anyone have a life transplant I could order by Monday? LOL <hugs thread>

Heh. I don't have a "life transplant" but you could take about half of what I've got on my plate and help me out! This time next week I'm going to be up to my ears in comics and artists and fanboys and general convention insanity. But you know I'd be lying if I told you I won't be savoring every single second of it all.

Actually, come to think of it, since I'm only like 5'3", I'm sure I'll be in over my head. Shoulders are my friends. I see them all the time. Me and Frankie and Seth Green should all get together and have a bitchfest about how much it sucks to be so short. Tall people keepin' us down.

However -- that leaves me only until Wednesday to inventory the merch, finalize schedules, (which have to be redone since I was originally given the wrong day for the bowling tournament, two artists moved their signing times, and we added lunches with the artists ((bid now on eBay!)), so I have to redo the entire thing. Today. Oy) and pray that all the merch and fixtures that have been shipped to me actually arrive on time.

And on top of all of that, add in my regular work crap. Can I just have a giant margarita instead of the hot chocolate? Raspberry, if you don't mind.

And Karlie: Good for you! Keep smiling, and whenever you see them, just think fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou in your mind and imagine bitch-slapping them in the head. That's what I've been doing, it makes my smile look genuine, and nobody's the wiser. Works like a charm.

I love mosh pits. If you want the NYC equivalent, get on the uptown 6 train at 59th street early in the morning on a week day. I swear, it's just as squished, sometimes just as violent, but much less fun.

I also love a good mosh pit - back in the good old days there was alot of it going around but I am now either too old to spot them LOL or dance music has taken over the world of clubbing here and we don't get much concerts worth the while - that's why I'm so excited for the March event. Note to self... protect boyfriends sister ... very easily trampled!

Yum Hot chocolate! Here have some chocolate mousse cake with that!

^^ I like mosh pits that aren't excuses for guys to grope girls. Dance, jump around, sing along, and have fun, that's fine and all in good fun. But at PR I had this guy who kept running into me and grabbing my boobs each time, and that I don't like. I got him off of me and eventually kicked him and knocked him down, so he realized I would fight back and left me alone after that, but I hate it when things like that happen. Women should be able to enjoy the pit without being sexually harassed.

At PR, my pit experience was great. It's so thrilling and unpredictable, and even though everyone is a complete stranger, there's this feeling of togetherness you get when you're jumping around in the pit.

<cannot wait to experience her first MCR pit>

Just out of curiosity, how old would your kids have to be for you to let them have their first mosh pit experience, Deb? (anyone else can answer this, I just want to see some people's opinions on this)

^^If it helps, I did my first pit when I was 15, and it was an awesome experience because it was a great pit, everyone was safety-minded, I surfed without getting groped, and when I got hurt a guy pulled me up and set me on his shoulders so I could see better and have a bit of a break. Of all the concerts/pits I've been to, I've only seen a small handful of younger kids, the majority of the time it's usually the 16 and up crowd. (I actually saw a pregnant lady in the back of the pit at PR -- that was incredibly scary) Oh, and to add to the above icky pit story I posted before -- the one guy was the only bad part of that pit. Everyone else was awesome, they moshed as safely as they could, helped each other out, and had a good time.

Pit mentality can go either way -- I would think that MCR pits are safer because the band encourages everyone to be careful and help each other up, but I've been to pits where people have been pulled out unconscious also. If you are taking someone under 14, I would recommend being toward the back of the pit. You can still dance and jump and sing, but you won't have the heavy moshing like you would have near the barricades.

Demonic.:

Just out of curiosity, how old would your kids have to be for you to let them have their first mosh pit experience, Deb? (anyone else can answer this, I just want to see some people's opinions on this)

Damien's first pit experience was at age 14 - Warped 2007. I found that to be about right.

I think it's usually okay for kids under 14 to be in the pit unless things get really out of hand. However, I don't really think it's very smart for parents to bring their 8 year olds into the pit, which I have sometimes seen. They can get injured, and are prone to becoming distressed by all the insanity going on.

I think that being in the pit not only requires being strong, tall, etc...you need to be able to not freak out when a hundred people come running forward.