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HPV or Human Papilloma Virus Shot

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Way1203
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October 3rd, 2007 at 04:24pm
yeah, its doesn't prevent cancer, it just protects up to 70% chance. I got it though, it's good to be safe, even though is doesn't cure it.
genresR4losers
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October 3rd, 2007 at 11:51pm
there's a better way... no needles... and it's free!!! it's called abstinence... oh well... i guess that this isn't the thread, but i just wanted to say that there are better, safer options...
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 4th, 2007 at 01:02am
genresR4losers:
there's a better way... no needles... and it's free!!! it's called abstinence... oh well... i guess that this isn't the thread, but i just wanted to say that there are better, safer options...


Not having sex does not prevent cancer.

I am a virgin, that doesn't mean I am immune.

HPV isn't a sexually transmitted disease.
genresR4losers
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October 4th, 2007 at 03:49am
All_You_Need_Is_Love:
HPV isn't a sexually transmitted disease.


um... HUH???? last time i worked at a hospital it was... um... maybe these people were wrong...

***gardasil.com
HPV affects both women and men.
• Anyone who has any kind of sexual activity involving genital contact with an infected person can get HPV—-intercourse isn't necessary.
• Many people who may have HPV may not show any signs or symptoms, so they can pass the virus on without even knowing it.

***cdc.gov
Genital HPV infection is a sexually transmitted disease (STD) that is caused by human papillomavirus (HPV). Human papillomavirus is the name of a group of viruses that includes more than 100 different strains or types. More than 30 of these viruses are sexually transmitted, and they can infect the genital area of men and women including the skin of the penis, vulva (area outside the vagina), or anus, and the linings of the vagina, cervix, or rectum. Most people who become infected with HPV will not have any symptoms and will clear the infection on their own.

so... unless the peoplet that make the vaccine and the Center for Disease Control are wrong... it's an STD... next time, you might want to get your facts straight... just a suggestion...

which just proves my point that people aren't well informed and should do some research for themselves... don't take things at face value... find out for yourself...
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 4th, 2007 at 04:31am
Again, you need to chill out.

I did type that wrong, being in a hurry. I meant that cancer isn't a Sexually Transmitted Disease. Smile

Honestly, the fact that you have a problem with getting a shot that reduces risk for such things is slightly sickening. Even if they don't spend hours researching doesn't mean they don't have the right to get a shot.

Also, you should probably get your facts straight, as well. Considering you seem to think that drug companies and the advertisements for the HPV shot say it is a cure.
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October 4th, 2007 at 05:45am
genresR4losers:
there's a better way... no needles... and it's free!!! it's called abstinence... oh well... i guess that this isn't the thread, but i just wanted to say that there are better, safer options...
Sure.
That's one way of preventing STDs, but is it realistic? Not really. People are still going to have sex, so you might as well try and make it as safe for them as possible.
genresR4losers
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October 5th, 2007 at 02:11am
well... i don't have the documentaion for it, but i remember hearing one commercial say that this prevents people from getting cancer... which is blatantly false...

i don't have a problem with getting a shot, i'm just choosing to go by other methods that are in no way harmful to my health... it's just that simple... there are no side effects of abstinence, and it's guaranteed effective...

and i know that people are going to have sex, but i'm just saying that there are ways out there that are more efficient, less painful, and less expensive, with no side effects, so how is that not better than the current option?
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 5th, 2007 at 02:41am
Nobody said the shot is better, but what about married women?

And simply because abstinince works for you don't mean it works for everybody.
tabitha
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October 5th, 2007 at 03:08am
^^ And just because vegetarianism works for you doesn't mean it works for everybody, but that didn't stop you from telling us otherwise.

Everyone has the right to choose which way works for them. genresR4losers prefers abstinence, and that's okay. Other people can choose the shot, and that's okay. Still more may just choose to protect themselves during sex. And guess what? That's okay too. This is but one option presented to people to choose. It's a good idea, but as with all medications, I think people should go into it fully informed.

I was thinking about asking about this at my next checkup. I don't know that I need it, being married, but I kinda like the "just in case" idea. I had the Hepatitis vaccinations done "just in case" (and those hurt terribly!) but I think I would be more likely to be exposed to that than to HPV. But if it's covered by my insurance, I don't see why not. People always point out that "you never know what will happen, something might happen to your husband" and then maybe I would be glad that I'd had it done. Kinda gloomy way of looking at the world, but I guess it makes sense.
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 5th, 2007 at 01:16pm
No, if you're in a third world country and starving to death with no access to protein other than a corpse, it doesn't work.
Smile

That's what I was saying.
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October 6th, 2007 at 01:53am
genresR4losers:
well... i don't have the documentaion for it, but i remember hearing one commercial say that this prevents people from getting cancer... which is blatantly false...

i don't have a problem with getting a shot, i'm just choosing to go by other methods that are in no way harmful to my health... it's just that simple... there are no side effects of abstinence, and it's guaranteed effective...

and i know that people are going to have sex, but i'm just saying that there are ways out there that are more efficient, less painful, and less expensive, with no side effects, so how is that not better than the current option?


It's not better because you don't get to have sex.

I respect your choice to abstain, and personally I'm not into a swinger lifestyle myself, but that doesn't mean it's better for everyone. If you have insurance then Gardisil doesn't cost much, if anything at all, and it didn't sting for more than a minute or two so it's not like it's monumentally painful.

Maybe you just misheard the commercial... I remember something along the lines of "can help in preventing cervical cancer," but they offered the statistics up immediately afterwards.


tabitha
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October 7th, 2007 at 04:23am
All_You_Need_Is_Love:

Honestly, the fact that you have a problem with getting a shot that reduces risk for such things is slightly sickening. Even if they don't spend hours researching doesn't mean they don't have the right to get a shot.


You do know that the HPV vaccination was tested on rabbits, right?
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 7th, 2007 at 05:34am
psychochip:
All_You_Need_Is_Love:

Honestly, the fact that you have a problem with getting a shot that reduces risk for such things is slightly sickening. Even if they don't spend hours researching doesn't mean they don't have the right to get a shot.


You do know that the HPV vaccination was tested on rabbits, right?


Yes, I do.
As is almost every shot and medication on the market.
In fact, it was tested on several animals.

This is not a thread about animal testing, but if you'd like to get into it, great. I believe that the torturing of animals in the name of stronger Viagra needs to come to stop immediately, we don't need to torture an animal to get Advil to work in 15 minutes instead of 30. That bull needs to come to an end. In fact, people should get over stem cells being an act of "playing God," (if you believe that strongly in that, any form of medication or mental help is evil as well) and stem cells should be used as a way to cure diseases. Does the torture need to end? Yes. Does that mean I will deny the betterment of my health or the health of my loved ones because of testing that has already taken place? No. Does that mean I will deny the fact that good has come of animal testing? No. Do I believe that the best thing we could do is to legalize stem cells and the cloning of human DNA? Yes.
What needs to happen is either that, or these "scientists" who torment innocent creatures in the name of Tylenol need to stop doing that and instead research cheaper (animal testing is quite expensive) and more accurate alternatives.

Also, what does that have to do with the fact that it's sickening that somebody would insult those who get the shot without spending countless hours researching the vaccination?
tabitha
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October 7th, 2007 at 01:55pm
I just wondered if you were aware that the vaccine was tested on animals is all. Nothing more than that.

I find a lot of the things you say and post "sickening" but I keep it to myself out of respect to your beliefs. I really wish you would do the same. I don't really feel that it is your place to tell people how to live their lives. Offer suggestions, answer questions, that's fine. Don't insult how other people live, even if it doesn't match your worldview. You've done it on several threads -- you've done it to *me* and it's really getting to me. This board is for discussions, not for you to stand on your soapbox and lord your supposed moral superiority over everyone. Please stop. And please stop pyramid quoting, it's annoying and against the rules.

That being said, I think this thread is valid in that it provides someone interested with an overview of what the HPV vaccination is and brings to light that a not-so-well-tested vaccine is becoming mandatory in record numbers. Not everyone can spend "countless hours" researching every little thing. This thread brought it to my attention enough to look it up, read some of the facts, and want to ask my woman's healthcare provider about it at my next exam. Were I a mother of a child who was being told she had to have it, it would move me to research it even more before giving it to my child. This thread serves a purpose, and everyone should be able to feel free to come in here, post their opinions, questions, and concerns without feeling insulted.
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 7th, 2007 at 06:46pm
There is a difference between telling people how to live their lives and telling them I find certain things sickening. If you believe some of my beliefs are sickening, that is your opinion and feel free to express it.

I am going to share my opinion, and if I believe it's sickening that people murder animals and that other people seem to believe that the only people worthy of getting certian vaccines are those that research every tiny detail, than I am going to say that I find that sickening.
stac-renee
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April 3rd, 2008 at 10:48am
THE GUARDISIL VACCINE PREVENTS SEVERAL TYPES OF THE HPV VIRUS WHICH LEADS TO CERVICAL CANCER. IT CAN BE GIVEN TO CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 8YRS OLD ON UP TO ADULTHOOD AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN IT TO BE EFFECTIVE
JadeTiger712
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April 4th, 2008 at 06:18pm
^^ um why do you always type in all caps?

Anyway I got the shoot because my parents wanted me to. All I have to say is that it hurt like hell. I'm not looking forward to getting the other two
Frankie-Oreo
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April 7th, 2008 at 11:38am
15 seconds of slight pain getting the injection, is alot better than haveing the actualy disease.

this vaccine is fantastic. it will prevent the deaths of alot of women. million have died becasue of this, and the vaccine will drastically reduce those numbers.
it has been the best thing in medicine since penicillan, or the polio vaccine.
rollertoaster
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May 5th, 2008 at 11:33am
My friend became infertile from the shot, so now I'm not willing to take the risk.
IceHog69
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May 6th, 2008 at 11:48am
genresR4losers:
there's a better way... no needles... and it's free!!! it's called abstinence

what if you want kids, but you happen to have HPV??? Then what? are you supposed to pass up on having a family?

I think you should go ahead and have the vaccine. Yes, it might not prevent you getting cervical cancer, but if it LOWERS THE RISK then yes, have it. Less risk is a lot better than all risk. So what if it hurts, it might save your life, yes it might not be cure for cancer, and it might not be entirely preventative, but it's better than nothing.

It is not being marketed as a 'cure for cancer' it is being marketed as a vaccine that LOWERS THE RISK of getting cervical cancer, which it does.