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Jenny.
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November 1st, 2009 at 07:54am
LactatingMCRwalrus:


I smoke it all day long. The stuff is fantastic. End of discussion

Have fun with that, if you think it's fantastic, good for you, but that is in no way the end of the discussion. If you like, you're more than welcome to remove yourself from this discussion, but don't think you can order people to stop discussing something just because you think the stuff is "fantastic".

/badmood
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In The Murder Scene
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November 1st, 2009 at 11:47am
LactatingMCRwalrus:


I smoke it all day long. The stuff is fantastic. End of discussion


Have fun with your self-righteousness, wherever it came from, but it's not welcome here. Either you contribute something useful to the discussion of your beloved toxin, or you stay completely out of this thread and, if you cannot control yourself, this entire forum. End of discussion. :]
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November 1st, 2009 at 05:12pm
gnihsams snikpmup.:
I think that if you use, you need legit reasoning. For medical reasons, I understand, as it can be used and not be more addictive than pain pills. However, I don't agree with doing it for fun, and wasting your life with it. Time is better spent on productive things, but that's just IMO. Whatever you like doing, it's your life.

I'm unsure of the procedures used for medical marijuana, but I'm sure it comes with strict guidelines and limitations so it's not abused, much like street marijuana is most of the time.
I know so many people that smoke marijauna. I completely agree with you.

In California it's easy as hell to get a medical marijauna license. They seriously will give it out for anything, even made up things. You don't need much proof, just to claim to be suffering and you need pot. I know alot of people who made up stuff and actually had legit reasons to get it.

I also know alot of people who smoke it recreationally without a license. I lost my best friend to pot. Despite what people think of it having no side effects besides addiction are wrong. The girl that use to be my best friend once was a completely different person. Now she can't hold up a conversation, can't go more then 4 hours without smoking more pot, has such bad migrains everyday for hours on end, severe mental problems and the list just goes on. There was nothing wrong with her, she was smart, funny and talented. Now she's just there, she steals, lies and so much more, her life is completely wasted away. It's really sad.
LactatingMCRwalrus
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November 1st, 2009 at 10:41pm
Wow Holy crap i didn't think i would get yelled at through text. Oh my God Sorry i Just have A opinion . Calm Down. And it ain't no toxin
John St. John
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November 2nd, 2009 at 08:14am
LactatingMCRwalrus:
And it ain't no toxin


Well sorry but it is :/
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November 2nd, 2009 at 09:33am
John St. John:
LactatingMCRwalrus:
And it ain't no toxin


Well sorry but it is :/


Let's not bicker.

Walrus, if you cannot back up your statements with experience or facts, you cannot post here. If I have to warn you again, I'll ban you. If you want to talk without having to back up what you say, less serious conversations can be had all over the message board - just not in this forum. Last chance.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 03:37pm
LactatingMCRwalrus:
Wow Holy crap i didn't think i would get yelled at through text. Oh my God Sorry i Just have A opinion . Calm Down. And it ain't no toxin
Nobody was yelling at you, except for possibly when you decided to go all petulant on us. You were giving inconsistent facts, not opinions. Yes, have fun smoking weed all day, whatever you like to do, but don't come in here saying things that aren't true just because you say so. If you can't take the fact if you post something in this forum, someone is going to have a differing opinion than you, then you can find a new section to talk in.
Jenny.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 04:38pm
LactatingMCRwalrus:
Wow Holy crap i didn't think i would get yelled at through text. Oh my God Sorry i Just have A opinion . Calm Down. And it ain't no toxin

That isn't yelling at you. I could yell at you, and then everyone'd know I'm yelling at you. I'm speaking to you quite calmly about the matter.

You're free to have an opinion, but this is a serious discussion topic and opinions need to be backed up with fact. I could sit and say that marijuana kills, but that's my opinion and has no fact to back it up with. Therefore, it does not make sense and has no place in a discussion.

If you want to randomly state opinions with no basis, then feel free to do so, but not on the discussion board.

I don't understand why you won't understand that there are toxins and chemicals in marijuana. They are natural, but chemicals and toxins nevertheless. I could link you to thousands and millions of sites that confirm this, but to be honest, you're not going to listen, so I'm not wasting my time.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 12:50pm
jenny.:
LactatingMCRwalrus:
Wow Holy crap i didn't think i would get yelled at through text. Oh my God Sorry i Just have A opinion . Calm Down. And it ain't no toxin

That isn't yelling at you. I could yell at you, and then everyone'd know I'm yelling at you. I'm speaking to you quite calmly about the matter.

You're free to have an opinion, but this is a serious discussion topic and opinions need to be backed up with fact. I could sit and say that marijuana kills, but that's my opinion and has no fact to back it up with. Therefore, it does not make sense and has no place in a discussion.

If you want to randomly state opinions with no basis, then feel free to do so, but not on the discussion board.

I don't understand why you won't understand that there are toxins and chemicals in marijuana. They are natural, but chemicals and toxins nevertheless. I could link you to thousands and millions of sites that confirm this, but to be honest, you're not going to listen, so I'm not wasting my time.




How do you know i would not listen. Truly i'm a nice intelligent person if you get to know me. But you guys think i'm a dumb pot smoking hippie. Neutral
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November 3rd, 2009 at 12:55pm
This particular journal entry is actually a historic review on the benefits of utilizing cannabis for the medicinal use of relieving migraines. In an attempt to find a journal that might actually have a case study or something on the affects of marijuana on a human, I forgot that there probably would not be many studies done due to the hazardous impact that comes with inhaling marijuana smoke. Although I am a proponent of the legalization of marijuana, I believe that precautions must be addressed in order to smoothly acclimate the drug into the society. This means that there must be studies done that actually use human subjects. There were studies done before cannabis was banned in 1937, showing that cannabis had a positive effect on people with chronic migraines, mental fatigue, fits of depression and so on. William Osler, the acknowledged father of modern medicine, stated of migraine treatment,';Cannabis indica is probably the most satisfactory remedy';(Russo, 199Cool.
The best way to describe a study like this is historical. Many of the historical uses of marijuana may have contemporary relevance. As I stated before, there are very few ways to study something that the society feels is harmful to the subject. This is exactly what the research is pointing out by voicing the words of our ancestors. This historical point-of-view allows our conscience to be at ease so that accurate tests can be performed to conclude a up to the date analysis. For so long marijuana has received criticism due to the abuse it took in the sixties and seventies. During the generation drought of knowledge of the subject, we have become ignorant to the fact that it may actually possess positive qualities. It has not been until recently that we have actually begun to take steps in understanding the capacity that marijuana may affect some illnesses. In 1974 the first direct study of pain relief from chronic headaches by the use of cannabis. All of the subjects agreed that the relief was comparable or superior to that of other pain relievers.
The research indicates that the resurgence of medicinal marijuana use is not only viable, but practical. Some of the conclusions that were stated include: a history of safe and effective use in the treatment of migraines, the addictive qualities are minute, if inhaled is rapid acting, etc. Even though there are many reasons outside these that would set a basis for the legalization of marijuana, it is still a drug(i.e. nicotine, caffeine, alcohol). This means that it should be taken in moderation and/or under the care of a physician. The research brings up the point about it being very useful while under the supervision of a doctor. Once this occurs, it will start a chain reaction, which will allow people under the influence of marijuana to be evaluated by doctors as to come up with some truth, I use that word lightly, about the effects of marijuana on a human as it pertains to the society. So, in my opinion, this study was very effective in stating points that may lead to some clinical studies of the drug. How long will it take the government to pass an amendment that will allow every migraine suffer to be able to receive the best medication possible? What is the major argument against the use of medicinal use? And how does it play a role in this research?
The strength of the paper lies in its ability to utilize many of the ideas that were passed on from our forefathers and use them as arguments for the use of cannabis as a reliever of migraine headaches. Without these arguments there would be no direction in the research. It was beneficial for the study to show that there has always been a use and a need for it. There can be no progress in the direction of studying the effects unless there is a basis for the study. On the other hand, one of the weaknesses of the study was that there was no hard data. If there can be no clinical studies done because we are unable to test humans for whatever reasons then we must find reasons that are applicable in this situation. I have come to the conclusion that there will be a lot of bureaucratic BS involved before there is actually any studying done.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 01:00pm
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John St. John:
LactatingMCRwalrus:
And it ain't no toxin


Well sorry but it is :/


Let's not bicker.

Walrus, if you cannot back up your statements with experience or facts, you cannot post here. If I have to warn you again, I'll ban you. If you want to talk without having to back up what you say, less serious conversations can be had all over the message board - just not in this forum. Last chance.
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Why do i always get called out by you moderators. God i'm just here cause i love MCR with a freaking passion. I just want to have discussions and be liked for fucking once. Please
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November 3rd, 2009 at 01:53pm
it doesn't matter why you're here, you're supposed to follow the rules of the discussion forum.
one of them is no swearing. and you got called out because you weren't adding anything to the discussion.
clearly you haven't read the rules so here they are.
Jenny.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 04:32pm
LactatingMCRwalrus:

Why do i always get called out by you moderators. God i'm just here cause i love MCR with a freaking passion. I just want to have discussions and be liked for fucking once. Please

MAYBE, just MAYBE, it's because you're BREAKING THE RULES and not LISTENING? We're not here to make everyone miserable, we're trying to keep the board running smoothly. You're free to love MCR, nobody has said that you can't! Again, don't swear on the discussions board. If you don't want us to yell at you then try following the rules, and listening when we tell you not to do stuff. It helps quite a lot, you know.

Have a discussion, but in order to do so you CAN'T just state your opinion, you have to have RELEVANT and VALID facts to back it up - or at least you can't just post an empty statement.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 06:22pm
LactatingMCRwalrus:
Why do i always get called out by you moderators. God i'm just here cause i love MCR with a freaking passion. I just want to have discussions and be liked for fucking once. Please
Then please follow the rules. We're here to make sure the rules are followed and to have a nice, intellegent discussion with everyone. However, it's difficult to do when someone comes in and gives out unsupported statements making them out to be the true facts, and then gets mad when people call them out.

We're not here to make you miserable, like MCR all you want here, just follow the rules of the site/this forum if you're going to post. If you can't follow them, then you can either a) go to a different site, or b) talk in a different part of the site, a less serious section. When Jenny, Steff, myself, and whichever other mod/admin posts, our thoughts are completely independent of one anothers, we don't chat with each other and then post thinking of ways to gang up on people.
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November 5th, 2009 at 06:06pm
All right, all. Let's get back to the discussion. Walrus, you've got a PM in your inbox from me. Back to the topic, everyone.
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November 8th, 2009 at 04:42am

I've tried researching this in order to contribute to the discussion but I'm still a bit vague.
Does it help with physical or mental illnesses? The websites I've been to are a bit confusing.
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November 8th, 2009 at 12:55pm
I'm not an expert on the subject, but it seems to me that is most popular medical use is to help with most cancers, which would be physical. It not only helps handle the pain caused by cancer, but also battles the nausea and loss of appetite caused by chemotherapy.
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November 11th, 2009 at 11:33pm
I used to smoke it to try to take away the emotional pain... it only ever took it away for twenty odd minutes and brought it back even worse... though i do know of people who use the drug for legitament purposes and if it eases someone elses suffering i'm not opposed to it. I have a friend in the states (cali) who was perscribed it. He said there are many misconceptions about the Building where they filled/used perscriptions. People think it's some kind of hookah bar... a happy place. the reality is that it's sad people going in and out easing their suffering constantly watched by the feds... still "cool"?
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November 15th, 2009 at 05:02am

Daft, I mean no disrespect in my following statement, just an observation. You are 15. Is medical marjuana even allowed to be prescribed to you? Or are you talking about just marjuana you managed to get a hold of?
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January 31st, 2010 at 06:07am
Ya know what? If they're in pain, why not let them light up their life.