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Jesse Lacey;
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January 31st, 2008 at 08:15pm
Didn't see another thread like it; if there is mods can do there (awesome) thing!

-Do you think hate exists?
-Are there logical reasons to hate someone/thing? What?
-Is the term "hate" overused these days? Underused? Used appropriately? Why?
-Does it do any good? What about harm?
-Is it alright to hate someone?

And any other questions you lovelies might wish to raise Smiley
goodbye blue sky
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February 1st, 2008 at 08:42am
I think it is alright to hate someone, but if there´s no reason why, then it´s not okay.
People actually say to me often that they hate me, but then in the next second they´re fine and hugging and stuff. I think people use that word too much, it has loose almost it´s meaning, cus almost everyday someone says that they hate that food etc. I think you should say that you hate something, when you actually do, not when it´s just the first word that comes in your mind. What about, I do not like that food, instead of hating it?
sir_pleb
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February 1st, 2008 at 10:57am
-Do you think hate exists?

I might have to ignore this one, it'll end up with me arguing with myself about what reality is. Let's just say, there isn't an particle of hate in the universe, just like there's no molecule of love or atom of justice.


-Are there logical reasons to hate someone/thing? What?
Indeed there are. But emotions are fickle things and are certainly not logical or rational. Thus I disagree with "it ends tonight." at times people just have to hate something without reason, if there is good reason for hating it, then you're not feeling something, you're calculating what reaction you should have to it when I feel to be truthful you have to go with your gut.

-Is the term "hate" overused these days? Underused? Used appropriately? Why?
Overused compared to that past, yes but language is a tool for humans, meanings can change, do change and should change. Revise the wording in the dictionary a tad, and bang! It's sorted. Certainly, it's lost effect but that's why we have words like 'loathe' and 'abhor', and words like 'mega' 'excessively' and 'effing'.

-Does it do any good? What about harm?
Without war, we'd have none of the inspirational stories. Hell, without war, we probably wouldn't have the computers we're using to write in this thread. Hate brings together people who would otherwise be indifferent to each other. Sure not the best relationship will come from it, but what's the point of dizzying highs, without the depressing lows?


-Is it alright to hate someone?
Yes. It can very well be irrational, hate doesn't need a reason. It's human nature.



it ends tonight.:
I think it is alright to hate someone, but if there´s no reason why, then it´s not okay.
People actually say to me often that they hate me, but then in the next second they´re fine and hugging and stuff. I think people use that word too much, it has loose almost it´s meaning, cus almost everyday someone says that they hate that food etc. I think you should say that you hate something, when you actually do, not when it´s just the first word that comes in your mind. What about, I do not like that food, instead of hating it?


"Dislike" means "do not like".
Not liking it is the opposite of liking it. That is to say there is an absence of "like". Hate is active, whereas dislike is neutral. They can actively hate that food, rather than simply not like it. To say they loathe it would probably be exaggeration, but hate is perfectly acceptable.
goodbye blue sky
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February 2nd, 2008 at 03:19pm
Yea, I´m not that stupid by not knowing that "dislike" means "do not like". If I wouldn´t know that, I´d hate myself really much. I am ironic now, and it´s kinda fun. Sorry if you couldn´t understand what I was saying, understandable cus English is not my first language, but I´ve studied it almost 5 years.

But anyway, I totally agree with you that hating someone does not always need a reason, it is the human nature
Faye Merci
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February 2nd, 2008 at 03:35pm
-Do you think hate exists?
I do, sadly. I think people can trick themselves into truly despising something.

-Are there logical reasons to hate someone/thing? What?
I don't think there is a reason to hate anything. Everything (and everyone) has a purpose, including things that would seem like they don't need one. (i.e. violence or weather, etc.) What i mean by that is this; people say they "hate violence" or that they "hate hot weather" but there's a reason those things are around. While society might view them as unwanted, there is a reason these things exist in the human condition and world. So no, I don't think anything ever deserves to be hated, no matter how horrible it might be.

-Is the term "hate" overused these days? Underused? Used appropriately? Why?
I think it's very much so overused these days. People like to throw around words without thinking of what they really mean.

-Does it do any good? What about harm?
I don't think hate does any good. It's quite a sad thing, really. To be so consumed with hatred over anything is bad for a person. It's so negative.

-Is it alright to hate someone?
No. I think it's alright to not care about someone or dislike someone, but truly hating someone is pretty harsh.

My question to add to the discussion: so what is hate, exactly? is it wishing death on someone? or something worse?
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February 2nd, 2008 at 05:10pm
I think that hate is something people want to do, and want to get closer to. I think the reason why we hate things is because we want to get closer to them, and hating something makes us feel like we understand it. I've come to know, when you hate something you don't ever underdstand it, and I think your always to a certain extent afraid of what you hate. I mean, if you wern't scared or bothered by something, there would be no reason to hate it.

I think the word hate is overused. I mean, you can't hate Oranges, for example. I don't like oranges, but I am not so intimedated by them I try to justify it by concentrating on all of it's flaws.
DeadInTheWater
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February 2nd, 2008 at 07:14pm
tbh i think hate is an over used word
people often say they hate things and in reality they arent that against it,
and i actually disagree with what people have said in earlier posts that hate is against and dislike is neutreul, its like, like is a positive term and dislike is a negative term, and i dont think it really matters about breaking the wotd down because its just taken to mean a negative term

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sir_pleb
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February 2nd, 2008 at 07:25pm
it ends tonight.:
Yea, I´m not that stupid by not knowing that "dislike" means "do not like". If I wouldn´t know that, I´d hate myself really much. I am ironic now, and it´s kinda fun. Sorry if you couldn´t understand what I was saying, understandable cus English is not my first language, but I´ve studied it almost 5 years.

But anyway, I totally agree with you that hating someone does not always need a reason, it is the human nature


I didn't mean it personally to you, I was just adding my view of the subject to the debate. I'm never quite as eloquent as I'd hope when debating.

Where are you from? I'd guess from your sig that it's Germany or Austria? Your english is actually a lot better than a lot of english people's english, It's just that a short piece of writing on a messageboard will never convey the emotion and sentiment of the passage well.
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March 5th, 2008 at 09:07am
A lot of people throw around the word "hate" like it's nothing. They use it as a simple word to describe something they might be frustrated with at the time being. I don't think many of us actually realize what a strong word it is. It's almost taken for granted, I guess.

I do believe you can hate. But it's not like you can just decide that one day you're going to hate someone. It's like love in the sense that it has to grow over time.
Radio Saturday
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March 6th, 2008 at 05:06am
-Do you think hate exists?
Yes. Not as a physical elements, but yes, hate exists, just like love and death.

-Are there logical reasons to hate someone/thing? What?
Yes, in the sense that hate means "to actively dislike or revile someone/thing." However, I think people tend to assume that much weaker feelings than these constitute hate, so they say they hate things that they really don't.

-Is the term "hate" overused these days? Underused? Used appropriately? Why?
Overused, like "depression," "love" and "stupid." There's a tendency, as I said before, for people now to assume that stronger feelings are involved and to overstate the case, when really, they're just not there.

-Does it do any good? What about harm?
Does it do any good? Hm... I'm not sure about that. I know it can do a lot of harm, both to the people who are hated and to the those who hate. It takes a lot of energy to keep hating someone or something when really, over time, you usually would just grow indifferent to it. I think hate has its time and place in the world of human emotion, but it's a pretty specific setting.

-Is it alright to hate someone?
No. I think it's fine to hate the things that someone does, but I think it's wrong to hate an actual person as a person. To hate someone as a person is, to me, really wrong, because people are so interconnected and linked in subtle ways (and damn it, I'm lapsing into mysticism), but to hate something someone does -- like cutting, or drinking to excess -- that makes sense. Hating a person, though... You can't hate someone until you truly know his or her mind, so really, to me, the only person you can hate is yourself.

Not that you should, though.
Ghostgirl191
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March 7th, 2008 at 09:31pm
i think its clear that hate exists but i think sometimes people mistake it for something else, when you think you hate someone, and its really not that, like "oh i hate my teacher" stuff like that.

but its bad to hold on to hatred because with time, you become what you hate. and the more hate you hold on to, the easier it is to hate someone or something
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March 21st, 2008 at 09:28pm
hate is a strong word, and can actually rarely be used with 100% honesty
you may say "i hate you", but u really should just say "i don't like you very much"
"hate" is over used
people DO use it for something or someone that makes them angry
sooner or later that "hate" will subside
so yes, Hate does exist,but it's truest form is hard to find
Juliet and Romeo
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March 21st, 2008 at 10:07pm
Hate is simply an emotion
Same as love
You use it when you are angry at someone or something. Or if you simply don't like it.
Hate would be overused, but it's not considered such a strong word anymore. People don't take it as seriously and so they use it more freely.
True hate of people would be racism, discrimination, sexism, ect. But if someone does something you don't like, you say you hate them, then the next day you could be best friends.
And I'm sorry if that made no sense to anyone but me.
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March 22nd, 2008 at 12:38am
I think hate can exist. There can be logical reasons because something might really, really, bother you and you end up absolutely HATING it. I do think that the word "hate" is used loosely. It used to be such a strong word to use, but now you can say "hate" instead of saying " oh I dont like that very much". I still think that hate can be a little strong. If someone tells you that they hate you and really mean it, it can hurt a little. Who wants to be hated? Its okay to hate something or someone because thats what humans do. This doesnt mean that you have to express that hate towards that thing or person because that wouldnt be very nice.... Hate is still a strong word.
Littlemisschem
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March 23rd, 2008 at 10:16pm
Of course hate exists, that's one of the emotions that are "programmed" into humans. It's unavoidable, we all feel at one time or another. There are reasons that are thought to be logical, but truly, no one should have to hate another person. You can ignore them, but the hate stuff doesn't have to be there. Sadly, hate is a powerful word that's thrown into every other sentence now a days. Some people say it because a person did something awful to them, others say it because they found a sweater that look like vomit and began laughing at it with their friends. It's a word that's taken lightly and not a lot of people take the word seriously. Hate is a deep loathing for any person/place/thing/idea or activity. It's a complex emotion that unfortunately can be found anywhere. All the word does is hurt people, it breaks up relationships and tears people apart. It's not alright to hate someone, but that doesn't mean you have to become their best friend. You can just avoid that person the best you can, and go on with your life.