Sexuality - Homosexual, Bi-Sexual, Bi-Curious, etc.

Complication:

Note my phrasing: COULD

If too many people decided, "Hey, everyone else is doing it... I'm gay!" We could have a population crisis on our hands. COULD.

When did you say 'could'?

I don't see why anyone who's a mature adult would have anything against the sex of other persons partner IF you remove religion from the equation.

Having said this, i also support the right for same sex couples to adopt children. Or rather, the females are already having babies, some even pair up with male couples and have the children together. So I guess the main issue is that we don't think that gay men makes good fathers for some reason.
Maybe we just have a stereotype in our heads of the promiscuous glam gay guy?
I am a bit confused about this one. Why we seem to think that same sex couples don't make good parents. I would love to hear your opinions about it.

Heybaberiba:

So I guess the main issue is that we don't think that gay men makes good fathers for some reason.
Maybe we just have a stereotype in our heads of the promiscuous glam gay guy?
I am a bit confused about this one. Why we seem to think that same sex couples don't make good parents. I would love to hear your opinions about it.

I personally don't think that's true, even though where I come from, only a few states grant same-sex adoption (Western Australia and Tasmania). Obviously men cannot become physically pregnant, which is why it would appear that there are more lesbian couples choosing to have children. For a gay couple to have a child biologically, first they would have to find a willing woman to carry it for them. Theoretically, lesbian couples don't have this problem, although I'm not going to say that is true for every lesbian couple.

I do wish that same sex adoption rights were amended though, in every state and territory.

You don't think its true that people seem to think that same sex couples don't make good parents?
If its true, that would be great!

Well, if its so, then question is, Why is it not a legal right everywhere? And why is there so many people working against it?

The argument I have heard, except for the whole "a child needs a mum and a dad" and "gays makes lousy parents with their lifestyle" arguments is that the society is not ready for it yet and that children of same sex couples would be too harassed.
The way I see it, the last part is up to us to change.

^ That's a really good point, that society isn't ready for it. I think that gay couples should be able to adopt, and to me, the "a child needs a mom and dad" argument isn't valid, because there are a lot of single parents out there as well, and some kids, who, for whatever reason don't have a mom and dad, or one/both parents aren't available.

I have to say, I'm pretty much in favor of homosexual couples being able to adopt. Obviously, similar standards need to apply for adoption -- that the parents are in a stable relationship, that they don't look likely to abuse the child in some way, all that. But I think it's better for a child to have people -- regardless of sexual orientation -- to care for and love it, than that the child spend the rest of its life getting shunted from one home to another or moving in and out of institutions. (Incidentally, I feel the same way about a lot of the racial idiocy that goes on -- in some places, white people aren't allowed to adopt black kids, and black people aren't allowed to adopt white kids and all that kind of stupidity...) What a child needs is a loving home, and if that can be provided by two people of the same sex, then I'm for it.

(Is this a tangent? I don't mean to perpetrate a threadjack, and if I have, I apologize.)

^ I very much agree. I'm very for homosexual rights, and I myself am bi. But I think, also, if a gay couple [say, of two men] are adopting, I think there should also be a woman that's a close friend to be there, and vice verce. Because, for the child, it might be easier [if the child is a girl] for her to talk to a women about women's things and everything like that. I don't think a couple should be denied adoption if they don't have this, but I just think that it would really help.

I personally don't know whether a child should be brought up with both a mom and a dad. I was brought up by just my mom, and I know that I quite androginous in my actions, etc, but I don't know if I would have been like that anyway. I don't see it as a problem, that I've never been able to ask people about personal issues, cause I have always been able to ask my mom. I know it is different for girls, because they have worse things happen to their bodies as they grow up, but I think that as long as a guy is willing to talk about things like that, and buy what is neccessary, I don't think it matters. As long as both parents are willing to learn,a dn talk about opposite sex issues, then sure, let them adopt. I don't think it does any harm not having both a mom and a dad.

^ I didn't say it would be too bad, I'm just saying that I think it would be better. I know I'd hate to grow up with only my dad, cos I aways talk to my mum about 'girly issues'. I agree that it really depends on the child, but I just think it might be awkward. I don't know.
And I'm sure there are plenty of people out there, like yourself who are perfectly fine with growing up with either gender

i think obviously, it does help to have both genders, but i think isn't really a problem only having one or other.

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^ I very much agree. I'm very for homosexual rights, and I myself am bi. But I think, also, if a gay couple [say, of two men] are adopting, I think there should also be a woman that's a close friend to be there, and vice verce. Because, for the child, it might be easier [if the child is a girl] for her to talk to a women about women's things and everything like that. I don't think a couple should be denied adoption if they don't have this, but I just think that it would really help.

defedently, but how do you know that that person will always be there for the kid?

I'm bi, and I have a girlfreind who i love more then anything, if we do stay togrther till we're old enough to like live together and stuff, I want to be able to sdopt, and also marry her.

i dont know if anyone has brought this up yet, but how does someone know if they are bi-sexual or not?
i mean.. sometimes it can be confusing...
becuz sometimes ppl can think they have an attraction to someone of the same sex and not be 110% sure.
and sometimes it can be hard ,if you are kind of sure,
to admit it simply for fear of being rejected...

could anyone help me clear up this confusion?

^ I understand what you mean. I'd been having that debate with myself for years now. I first found myself attracted to a girl in year 3! But I didn't think anything of it. By highschool, I realised I like both guys and girls in that way, but I was too scared to admit it.
It was only earlier this year, that I fully concluded - with a lot of time and thought put into it - that I'm bi. I've only told my good friends, and most of them are fine with it And even tease me about the girl I like in a fun way.
I had a lot of trouble accepting it at first, cos I felt I would be judged, and as you said, the fear of rejection.
Now all I have to do is tell my parents...