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MCR avoids legal action from Maine University

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Person0001
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November 12th, 2007 at 04:55pm
Amy;;:
Everyone seems to be blaming the University.
Yes, MCR had a genuine reason for not playing, but the Uni also lost alot of money that had gone towards setting up ect.
I seriously would like to know what money they lost. My Chem brings their own setup. My Chem has their own A&R. What could the university possibly have needed to spend 20 grand on? And why is this Mr. Mitchell being heralded as some sort of hero when he was going to charge his own students for the money he invested poorly?

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Boys Night Out
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November 12th, 2007 at 05:25pm
While I do feel bad for the people going to the concert, I also think the Uni took it too far.
I don't think they had a right to sue. Or take ANY legal actions against MCR for that matter.

They had no control over the situation. It's not like Bob planned on becoming injured. They hate to cancel shows.

And-----How did the University lose money? Like Deb said, the guys bring all their own stuff, ect.

I can understand the Uni being upset, but I think they took it to an extreme.
mirarle
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November 12th, 2007 at 09:32pm
Supposed it was over the all the ads, bringing in stage, lights, equipments and sound. I doubt MCR brings everything, and since they're such a big band they need big accomodations. I know that bringing in a stage costs a lot because my friend is in UCSD and they have the Sun God Festival (which had MCR play in 2006). Setting up a concert, even a school one, costs A LOT.

OVerall, the price was fair. They were angry because MCR didn't find a replacement in time for their concert but played the next day. I guess they just felt cheated out of it. I'm glad they settled this out of court or MCR'll would have an actual lawsuit to take care of and lose more money.

On the other hand, sorry for the kids who missed it, but I hope MCR doesn't agree to play at UMaine again. The school was too fired up about it...now they cooled down and got their money and is thinking asking.
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November 12th, 2007 at 09:37pm
Business is business.
Also, the price just for mcr to play is crazy expensive. Over 50k, anyways.
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November 15th, 2007 at 01:34pm
can you imagine getting sued for being injured and having to cancel a show?

Umaine;'s a bit ridiculous to do the suing shit.
Pixie-Gates
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November 15th, 2007 at 02:22pm
This seems really strange to me. It should have been a simple case of frustration of contract. Granted I don't have all the facts but legally that should have nullified the contract and meant they didn't have to pay anything as the frustrating event was beyond their control.

Hmm. Unless the playing of a show the next night invalidated the rules.

*Is a nerdy law student and apologises*
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November 20th, 2007 at 06:35pm
mirarle:
Supposed it was over the all the ads, bringing in stage, lights, equipments and sound. I doubt MCR brings everything, and since they're such a big band they need big accomodations. I know that bringing in a stage costs a lot because my friend is in UCSD and they have the Sun God Festival (which had MCR play in 2006). Setting up a concert, even a school one, costs A LOT.

OVerall, the price was fair. They were angry because MCR didn't find a replacement in time for their concert but played the next day. I guess they just felt cheated out of it. I'm glad they settled this out of court or MCR'll would have an actual lawsuit to take care of and lose more money.

On the other hand, sorry for the kids who missed it, but I hope MCR doesn't agree to play at UMaine again. The school was too fired up about it...now they cooled down and got their money and is thinking asking.


Lol when you said they're such a big band they need "Big accommodation's" you're wrong. I think you're all forgetting that this is the band that used to play basements. I don't see how a loyal MCR fan could think this was fair.
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November 20th, 2007 at 07:59pm
Uh, I think you're forgetting MCR doesn't play basement anymore, so it doesn't count. If this suit happened years a go when they did, then, yes I would say you are right. But the fact is, no matter how much oh-so-loyally-hardcore MCR fans hate it, they ARE a big band now! They are mainstream. They've played arenas across the globe.

And what did you think I meant by big accommodations? Like diva demands? No. I mean they're not some little band like they were three years ago; their set has become more elaborate and expensive. MCR is a very dramatic band--they like their lights and their effects. UMaine had tcontracts with the sound, stage and promotion already paid for MCR to play, which means they lost a lot of money because MCR cancelled. Even if MCR offered to do a makeup, the money is still gone. That's what they're suing for, so it's not something stupid and out of the blue. The face is they DID lose money. So, if MCR paid, 20K is a pretty fair price. And uh, I never said it was fair for MCR to pay, I said the price was fair. If they wanted like 50k+, I wouldn't be saying a single good thing about UMaine.

Like I said in my first post, I believe both side had their mistakes, whether it was intentional or not. I do believe, however, as I've read more about case and the possible contract MCR signed, that the "legal action" thing shouldn't have happened because MCR pulling out was under the "Act of God" clause, which would ultimately excuse them (no matter how much UMaine lost). MCR could've easily countered UMaine with their lawyers but decided not to and just paid up 'cause they didn't want a headache. Why? Because 20K is nothing for this band who probably get more than twice that amount for every show they play. And why do they get paid a lot? Well, as a loyal MCR fan, I'm sure you know it's because they're such a big, expensive band (though not as expensive as some, but the price is still pretty hefty) that doesn't play in basements anymore.

Correct me if I am wrong about anything.
ain-Z
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November 24th, 2007 at 10:07pm
personally i think maine are wrong although it was no ones fault the show got cancelled bob couldnt do anything about getting injured
i think maine maybe took it a bit far because i'm sure mcr have had to cancel shows in other arenas and places for different reasons and those places didn't sue them
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November 24th, 2007 at 10:24pm
Wow, now I'm mad. My Chemical Romance had every reason to cancel! Whoever decided that the University should sue them has no backbone.
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November 24th, 2007 at 10:26pm
mirarle:
Uh, I think you're forgetting MCR doesn't play basement anymore, so it doesn't count. If this suit happened years a go when they did, then, yes I would say you are right. But the fact is, no matter how much oh-so-loyally-hardcore MCR fans hate it, they ARE a big band now! They are mainstream. They've played arenas across the globe.

And what did you think I meant by big accommodations? Like diva demands? No. I mean they're not some little band like they were three years ago; their set has become more elaborate and expensive. MCR is a very dramatic band--they like their lights and their effects. UMaine had tcontracts with the sound, stage and promotion already paid for MCR to play, which means they lost a lot of money because MCR cancelled. Even if MCR offered to do a makeup, the money is still gone. That's what they're suing for, so it's not something stupid and out of the blue. The face is they DID lose money. So, if MCR paid, 20K is a pretty fair price. And uh, I never said it was fair for MCR to pay, I said the price was fair. If they wanted like 50k+, I wouldn't be saying a single good thing about UMaine.

Like I said in my first post, I believe both side had their mistakes, whether it was intentional or not. I do believe, however, as I've read more about case and the possible contract MCR signed, that the "legal action" thing shouldn't have happened because MCR pulling out was under the "Act of God" clause, which would ultimately excuse them (no matter how much UMaine lost). MCR could've easily countered UMaine with their lawyers but decided not to and just paid up 'cause they didn't want a headache. Why? Because 20K is nothing for this band who probably get more than twice that amount for every show they play. And why do they get paid a lot? Well, as a loyal MCR fan, I'm sure you know it's because they're such a big, expensive band (though not as expensive as some, but the price is still pretty hefty) that doesn't play in basements anymore.

Correct me if I am wrong about anything.


My Chemical Romance had offered to reschedule. As far as I know, The props would have still been used.
The Rumor
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November 24th, 2007 at 10:28pm
^ Money would still be lost.
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November 25th, 2007 at 03:33am
mirarle:
Uh, I think you're forgetting MCR doesn't play basement anymore, so it doesn't count. If this suit happened years a go when they did, then, yes I would say you are right. But the fact is, no matter how much oh-so-loyally-hardcore MCR fans hate it, they ARE a big band now! They are mainstream. They've played arenas across the globe.

And what did you think I meant by big accommodations? Like diva demands? No. I mean they're not some little band like they were three years ago; their set has become more elaborate and expensive. MCR is a very dramatic band--they like their lights and their effects. UMaine had tcontracts with the sound, stage and promotion already paid for MCR to play, which means they lost a lot of money because MCR cancelled. Even if MCR offered to do a makeup, the money is still gone. That's what they're suing for, so it's not something stupid and out of the blue. The face is they DID lose money. So, if MCR paid, 20K is a pretty fair price. And uh, I never said it was fair for MCR to pay, I said the price was fair. If they wanted like 50k+, I wouldn't be saying a single good thing about UMaine.

Like I said in my first post, I believe both side had their mistakes, whether it was intentional or not. I do believe, however, as I've read more about case and the possible contract MCR signed, that the "legal action" thing shouldn't have happened because MCR pulling out was under the "Act of God" clause, which would ultimately excuse them (no matter how much UMaine lost). MCR could've easily countered UMaine with their lawyers but decided not to and just paid up 'cause they didn't want a headache. Why? Because 20K is nothing for this band who probably get more than twice that amount for every show they play. And why do they get paid a lot? Well, as a loyal MCR fan, I'm sure you know it's because they're such a big, expensive band (though not as expensive as some, but the price is still pretty hefty) that doesn't play in basements anymore.

Correct me if I am wrong about anything.


Tell that to the countless people who call MCR emo and constantly trash talk them.

I don't think MCR fits into "mainstream" or any other bull shit genre because they sound like nothing out there.