Neo-Nazism

thisvampiarwillhurty:

TeenagerIscaremyself:

People who enjoy almost wiping out an entire race are pathetic, cowards. They attacked the Jews and many other people, who weren't causing them harm at all, not to mention they couldn't even defend themselves from the nazis until the U.S. stepped in. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who dares say that those people were right will have to take it up with me.

(sorry, total spam) but the british were defending them long before the U.S decide to join in the war. and that was only because the japanies attacked them.

That's true but i dissagree with that the British supported them. The british had probably no jews but they did no such thing

Danny Elfman:

TeenagerIscaremyself:

People who enjoy almost wiping out an entire race are pathetic, cowards. They attacked the Jews and many other people, who weren't causing them harm at all, not to mention they couldn't even defend themselves from the nazis until the U.S. stepped in. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who dares say that those people were right will have to take it up with me.

I'm not saying they were in any way right, I just want to point out that I doubt Hitler actually enjoyed wiping out Jewish people.
The only reason Hitler wanted to wipe them out was that he thought they had lost Germany WW1, he thought they were putting strain on the country and contributing to the Depression, and he managed to convince people to agree with him.
They attacked the Jews and many other people, who weren't causing them harm at all, not to mention they couldn't even defend themselves from the nazis until the U.S. stepped in.
That is possibly the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard. America has a cheek! They are bombing innocent people in Iraq who can't defend themselves. Who's going to step in there? Oh, that's right. Nobody. Because nobody wants to go against Bush.

It's really very interesting how Hitler managed to brainwash an entire country into believing him and not questioning anything he did.
They didn't even care when the concentration and death camps were built, and after a few months, they were so used to the stench of death that it was just a way of life to them.
It's really fascinating from that point of view.
Though, on the plus side, he did bring Germany out of economic depression, improve the infastructure of the country and generally make the way of life for "German" people better before the War broke out....

F i a:

Do you think there should be laws against Nazi views?

I don't mean this in a bad way, but no.
If you limit one person's freedom of speech, you have to limit everyone's. You can't be equal but treated differently.
So, from that view, no.
Even though I don't agree with Nazism.

Yeah that is all true but I never said that the United States was a savior or anything, I just meant that the country of Israel hadn't even been "created" yet so they couldn't really defend themselves. Although I disagree with some of your opinions I do agree in others especially about the unjust war in Iraq, but I was just pointing out that most people didn't care about the Jews and almost let them become extinct.

TeenagerIscaremyself:

Yeah that is all true but I never said that the United States was a savior or anything, I just meant that the country of Israel hadn't even been "created" yet so they couldn't really defend themselves. Although I disagree with some of your opinions I do agree in others especially about the unjust war in Iraq, but I was just pointing out that most people didn't care about the Jews and almost let them become extinct.

Yeah, but you see what I mean about how you can say "Yeah America saved their asses", but they're doing the same thing as Hitler really by killing innocent people in Iraq today.
The Iraqis don't really have a stable country or economy so they can't defend themselves, and nobody can, or will, protect them from the most powerful nation in the world.

The whole thing about America being the same as Hitler is totaly off base. Hitler specifically targeted the jews and had a plan set up to kill every last one of them. The people getting killed in Iraq today are mostly accidental. True you get a few troops killing them on purpose, but you can't judge a whole by a minority

JadeTiger712:

The whole thing about America being the same as Hitler is totaly off base. Hitler specifically targeted the jews and had a plan set up to kill every last one of them. The people getting killed in Iraq today are mostly accidental. True you get a few troops killing them on purpose, but you can't judge a whole by a minority

I'm not saying Bush is just like Hitler, I'm saying he's as bad as him. They both have blood on their hands.
To me, it doesn't matter about the circumstances, they are both guilty of murder.
Just that Hitler's was on a much larger scale and he managed to brainwash almost an entire country into following him.

JadeTiger712:

The whole thing about America being the same as Hitler is totaly off base. Hitler specifically targeted the jews and had a plan set up to kill every last one of them. The people getting killed in Iraq today are mostly accidental. True you get a few troops killing them on purpose, but you can't judge a whole by a minority

How do people accidently kill people?

I think everyone is pretty sure of what they are doing. the US millitary doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes unless it's coming from their intelligence gathering.

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JadeTiger712:

The whole thing about America being the same as Hitler is totaly off base. Hitler specifically targeted the jews and had a plan set up to kill every last one of them. The people getting killed in Iraq today are mostly accidental. True you get a few troops killing them on purpose, but you can't judge a whole by a minority

How do people accidently kill people?

I think everyone is pretty sure of what they are doing. the US millitary doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes unless it's coming from their intelligence gathering.

I ment that civilians in Iraq who are getting killed are caught in crossfire and stuff like that. The civilians aren't the target of the US military

I don't know how things are going on outside of Europe, but all the Nazis-things here are getting worse. I read almost every day something about what the Nazis have done and what they are planning to do next.
A lot of people are scared by the Nazis, and also a whole lot share their thougts.
If something happens in public places, most people just watch. Nazis are way much more dangerous than many of us may think. They have their groups everywhere and are against everyone and everything that is different from them. Which includes homosexuality, religion and much more.

I never understood how someone can be proud of something they didn't work for it. You can be glad that you're born into a rich family for example. But proud? You are what you are!
I'd rather be proud of myself because I'm good at school (well I am out of school for years) or because I reached something by myself.

But hey, thats just my opinion. And in my opinion does action speak louder than words

Neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, those Prussian Blue people, they all discust me.

I am a Jew, and I learn about the horrors of the Holocaust every year with my Rabbi. You would expect that after a while they would become less terrifying, but they don't. Every year the images of dying children, parents being torn from their kids, the death camps, the piles upon piles of hair, clothes, glasses, shoes that were ripped off the dead completely haunt me. There are children so thin, you could count every bone and people being massacred all over the place, and anyone who would support these kinds of horrible, duscusting, evil acts are simply heartless. They can't even understand the absolute horrors that those victims indured. But even worse than not trying to understand, they support it! They should just try walking in a Jewish child's shoes. Try, year after year, looking at the slideshows and presentations of these morbid pictures. They should try and see the pain in the children's eyes, in their parent's eyes, knowing there was nothing they could do to save their kids. They should try to understand how one of the people who had to carry their friends and family's dead bodies from the gass chambers (the actual German name escapes me) felt. Just try! Aren't we all equal on this Earth? Why should only a few groups of people (it wasn't only the Jews, but also homosexuals, gypsies, etc.) be singled out and slaughtered? There is no such thing as a master race! Outer beauty, although we all have different veiws on what true beauty is, may come and go. It is inner beauty, and the fact that we are all humans with similarities and differences, who can learn to get along in peace, that lives forever.

Any ideas of a master (or aryan) race on this planet is ridiculous, disgusting and overall completely horrible.

And all of those people who deny it ever happened, that is ridiculous. Sorry. The Holocaust happened, whether you like it or not. The fact that you deny it does not make it go away. Open your eyes, because that is the truth.

Scarlet, I love you for this post. Great!

Neo-Nazism is stupid and only pathetic losers belive in it.

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thisvampiarwillhurty:

TeenagerIscaremyself:

People who enjoy almost wiping out an entire race are pathetic, cowards. They attacked the Jews and many other people, who weren't causing them harm at all, not to mention they couldn't even defend themselves from the nazis until the U.S. stepped in. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who dares say that those people were right will have to take it up with me.

(sorry, total spam) but the british were defending them long before the U.S decide to join in the war. and that was only because the japanies attacked them.

That's true but i dissagree with that the British supported them. The british had probably no jews but they did no such thing

Not true. None of the Allies even knew the camps existed until liberation. Every major country did something for the jews, and the United Kingdom did have jewish people.

Going back a bit to the neo-nazi pop group Prussian Blue. Back in the summer there was an informative documentary on them over here in the UK called "Nazi Pop Twins" (Directed by James Quinn). You could see from the film that the twins themselves have, as they've matured, began trying to distance themselves from the white supremacist movement.

It's particularly telling when Quinn interviews them seperated from their mother. As you might expect from teenagers, they're fairly unsure of themselves, of what sort of political beliefs that they are forming. One thing they are sure about is that they don't want to be doing political songs anymore, instead they were trying to focus their songs on more personal issues.

The real problem however was with their mother and grandfather. Their grandfather was actually claiming that he had shot several mexicans because he was convinced that they were breaking into his farm to have sex with the animals. He, alongside their mother, was a complete bigot. The worst point of this documentary was discovering that their own mother had been arranging for them to phone an imprisoned (for murder, life sentence) white supremecist since their were young. And this guy was an utter pervert, he was about sixty and was practically telling them about how he wanted to have sex with them, and their own mother was encouraging this!

The video can be seen here

To bve honest, don't call me names but; people have their own opinions & rights.

I think I saw these two on 20/20 once, it was scary. I can't believe people like this still exist, especially in such a young generation. We all need to love each other, respect each other, and get rid of racism. I, personally, got my fill of it just from watching the History Channel. I'm sick of that shit.