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UndyingSoul.
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UndyingSoul.
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September 23rd, 2007 at 05:14am
CemeteryDrive123:
i don't beleive that...
i have no faith in anything. and i'm blissfully happy..
we're kind agetting out of topic


A little but not completely.

What Im saying is that I believe that things are given and taken for a reason. I dont think people should be able to choose the life and death of another human being (or embyo is you will).
The Doctor
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September 23rd, 2007 at 02:44pm
CemeteryDrive123:
i got my period when i was nine.
a 12 will probably die if they even attempt to have a child that young.
plust having a child that young will scare you for life. think about the girl instead of the embryo for one second!


The worlds youngest mother was 5. She had a perfectly healthy baby and they both lived. Plus, people can die from chldbirth at ANY age. There is always a risk.

I'm for abortion. I believe that an embryo only has rights once it's born. Why should something without rights override a human WITH rights? Besides, what if the child will be born with a severe disability? What sort of life will it have, if it can't talk, walk, hear, or do anything for itself? Surely it's in the embryos best intrests to have it aborted, rather than giving it a half life filled with pain.
ChildVision
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September 23rd, 2007 at 02:49pm
^^Yea but having a child at 5..that is risky. The younger someone is the more chance they have of dying in childbirth. The five year oled was very lucky.
UndyingSoul.
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September 23rd, 2007 at 07:07pm
CemeteryDrive123:
^^Yea but having a child at 5..that is risky. The younger someone is the more chance they have of dying in childbirth. The five year oled was very lucky.


But someone with extreme medical issues or something like that could have the same risk of dying as a 12 year old. So I agree with the Doctor, the risk of death isnt just for young people.
ChildVision
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September 23rd, 2007 at 08:26pm
just, yes but they do have more chances of having birth defects
and i never said it was jsut for young people
just that they have more a risk then a 25 year old whose healthy
UndyingSoul.
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September 23rd, 2007 at 08:31pm
CemeteryDrive123:
just, yes but they do have more chances of having birth defects
and i never said it was jsut for young people
just that they have more a risk then a 25 year old whose healthy


Of course.
ChildVision
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September 23rd, 2007 at 08:46pm
i think if i said anything now, i'd be repeating what i've already said
Simple and Clean
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September 23rd, 2007 at 08:55pm
NotOkay22:
CemeteryDrive123:
just, yes but they do have more chances of having birth defects
and i never said it was jsut for young people
just that they have more a risk then a 25 year old whose healthy


Of course.

It's true.
But not only is the pyhsical risk higher, so is the emotional.
I mean, a 12 year old, just started high school, has a life in which she is free to do as she will. She'll face public torment, from the outside, no one will know the baby is there because of a rapist.

At least a 25 year old,will be free from all that, yes, they will face other emotional tracks, but it certainly is likely to be far less traumatic.
UndyingSoul.
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September 23rd, 2007 at 11:06pm
Simple and Clean:
NotOkay22:
CemeteryDrive123:
just, yes but they do have more chances of having birth defects
and i never said it was jsut for young people
just that they have more a risk then a 25 year old whose healthy


Of course.

It's true.
But not only is the pyhsical risk higher, so is the emotional.
I mean, a 12 year old, just started high school, has a life in which she is free to do as she will. She'll face public torment, from the outside, no one will know the baby is there because of a rapist.

At least a 25 year old,will be free from all that, yes, they will face other emotional tracks, but it certainly is likely to be far less traumatic.


Kinda, sorta...
ChildVision
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September 23rd, 2007 at 11:38pm
Well.. a 12 year old wouldn't even bin in high school..hmm i was in 6th-7th grade when i was 12.
i couldn't imagine being pregnant in 6th or 7th grade. i was just a kid then
UndyingSoul.
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September 23rd, 2007 at 11:54pm
CemeteryDrive123:
Well.. a 12 year old wouldn't even bin in high school..hmm i was in 6th-7th grade when i was 12.
i couldn't imagine being pregnant in 6th or 7th grade. i was just a kid then


So were we all...
ChildVision
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September 24th, 2007 at 01:40am
think back when you were 12...you were freaked out by middle school, homework, could you handle a baby?
The Doctor
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September 24th, 2007 at 01:46am
^^ Exactly.

Can you imagine, being raped at 11, being FORCED to carry a baby to full term, with people shouting abuse at you, your friends ditching you, you missing school because you can't leave the house, or because the school doesn't want you there. Can you imagine the morning sickness, the stretch marks, the cravings, the pain of labour, and then going through the pain of giving your baby away? The one you just suffered for?
Imagine after that, not knowing what happened to that baby you gave away. Not knowing if it was dead or alive, if it was being treated fairly, if it had even found a home.
Or maybe, you kept the baby. You have months of waking up 3-4 times a night, never having peace, your social life empty. You might now even bond with your child. You could spend every day of it's life looking at it, and being reminded of what you went through.

Could you do that? Could you go through all that, because a few people think getting rid of a clump of cells is wrong?

I thought not.
UndyingSoul.
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September 24th, 2007 at 02:34am
CemeteryDrive123:
think back when you were 12...you were freaked out by middle school, homework, could you handle a baby?


Probably not. But I could do everything in my power to try. I would just5 refuse an abortion and move on. And If I die, then I die. Thats how I choose to live my life.
DIE! DIE! DIE!
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September 24th, 2007 at 05:45pm
That's great for you. Some people have more regard for their lives, and that should be respected. But as you said, your not anti abortion right? Your "anti abortion". So im sure you catch my drift.
UndyingSoul.
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September 24th, 2007 at 07:05pm
DIE! DIE! DIE!:
That's great for you. Some people have more regard for their lives, and that should be respected. But as you said, your not anti abortion right? Your "anti abortion". So im sure you catch my drift.


im confused...what?
Bleeding Dry
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September 24th, 2007 at 07:05pm
sometimes its crueller to have the baby
Like, if you know your not gonna look after it properly, or your just gonna give it away, your ruining their life, because theyll have to live forever knowing you didnt want them, and didnt care etc. that makes them feel worthless and this is where problems come.
UndyingSoul.
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September 24th, 2007 at 07:09pm
Bleeding Dry:
sometimes its crueller to have the baby
Like, if you know your not gonna look after it properly, or your just gonna give it away, your ruining their life, because theyll have to live forever knowing you didnt want them, and didnt care etc. that makes them feel worthless and this is where problems come.


Ive met many kids given up do to their mothers not wanting them. Some cant handle it, but Ive met many who can. As long as they have a family at all loving them, then they dont care that their biolgical mother didnt want them, because they do have people who want them. Even though they look different, they are family.
TaraIsBack!
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September 24th, 2007 at 07:35pm
Wow, this is such a touchy subject.
As a mother of 3, *I* couldn't do it, but I think that women should have a choice... so long as it's early in the pregnancy. If a pregnancy is to be spontaneously aborted (or miscarried) it will happen naturally in the first 12 weeks. Anyone who is to choose to have an abortion should only be able to do it in the first 12 weeks also. Now, to choose to terminate a pregnancy because tests have indicated that the fetus may be born with handicaps (physical or mental) shoudl be able to be done at any time. I have never had to go thru that, thank God, but I do know that tests for downs can come back positive when in fact the fetus is perfectly fine.

Either way, I have spoken to many women who made the decision to terminate and even tho the knew that it was the right choice for them, they still regret ever getting pregnant and having to make the choice in the first place... especially AFTER they go on to have kids.
Casimir Pulaski Day
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September 25th, 2007 at 07:00am
NotOkay22:


Its isn't fair to the girl, it wasn't fair that the girl was raped either, and it wasn't fair that she got pregnant. But she did, and she was. Life isn't fair, its as simple as that.


If you have the readily avaliable chance to make part of life fair, why on earth would you deny that to somebody? It's not the dark ages, things aren't just the way they are anymore. We don't live in a reactionary population...