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UndyingSoul.
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October 8th, 2007 at 05:49pm
Already_Dead10:
Yeah. Like, its the mom's choice, but killing another human being is wrong, even if the human being is not techincally alive. Hmm, what would Gerard Way and My CHemcail Romance think of this?


Why should that matter?

Almost all of my opinions are the exact opposite of what MCR thinks. Does that stop me? Nope. You ant form opinions based on what a band (no matter how good) thinks.
sweet disposition.
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October 8th, 2007 at 06:37pm
If you've got a good, valid and proper reasons, and you've properly thought about it, then it's up to you; if you think you're making the right choice and can live with that decision.

But it really angers me when I hear things like people having abortions so they can fit into their prom dress, or because if they get fat their boyfriend's won't them.

I think if your reason is like that, it's pretty sickening.
Sonnet 130
Thinking Happy Thoughts
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October 8th, 2007 at 09:00pm
It depends on the situation:

i think that abortion should be allowed if someone gets raped.
They shouldnt have to keep the baby if they do, its just cruel to both mother and child.

But i've heard in soem cases that women are having abortions if they find out there having a boy but wanted a girl. Shame on you if you do that! Its just cold hearted of you!
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October 8th, 2007 at 09:01pm
love is dead:
It depends on the situation:

i think that abortion should be allowed if someone gets raped.
They shouldnt have to keep the baby if they do, its just cruel to both mother and child.

But i've heard in soem cases that women are having abortions if they find out there having a boy but wanted a girl. Shame on you if you do that! Its just cols hearted of you!


^^ That's a terrible reason!

You can't truly want a child if you're like that.

I can understand if you have an abortion after being raped. The baby would just remind you of your ordeal, and you're likely to end up resenting the child, which isn't fair on them.
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 8th, 2007 at 10:20pm
love is dead:
It depends on the situation:

i think that abortion should be allowed if someone gets raped.
They shouldnt have to keep the baby if they do, its just cruel to both mother and child.


You can't put the child up for adoption?
Regardless of how the child was concieved, denying the right to life is never the only (or best) option.

Okay, abortion is legal for rape victims, now fifty girls are all claiming rape so they can get an abortion.
Sonnet 130
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October 8th, 2007 at 10:30pm
All_You_Need_Is_Love:
love is dead:
It depends on the situation:

i think that abortion should be allowed if someone gets raped.
They shouldn't have to keep the baby if they do, its just cruel to both mother and child.


You can't put the child up for adoption?
Regardless of how the child was conceived, denying the right to life ineverthe only (or best) option.

Okay, abortion is legal for rape victims, now fifty girls are all claiming rape so they can get an abortion.



OK so if you do put the child up for an adaption then how is it gonna fell knowing that it was brought in this world kicking and screaming but there own mother not even been able to look at it.

What happens years after when they find their birth mother and ask her "Why didn't you want me? why didn't you love me?"
Then comes the question of "who is my dad?"


But i guess you have to put yourself in that situation, could you go through getting raped and bringing that child into this cruel world then putting it up for adoption?
Some people could but many couldn't.

You could be all for abortion but then when you get pregnant you decide to keep it; or you could be totally against abortion but then you get pregnant and decide to have an abortion.
DhaniCauldwell
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October 8th, 2007 at 11:13pm
I'm against abortion, but I do agree that there are valid reasons why a woman can get an abortion. I just disprove of it when it is used as a form of birth control or is done because it is an inconvenience to the woman.
genresR4losers
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October 8th, 2007 at 11:20pm
i understand that some people say that putting the child up for adoption can have more psychological detriments than just killing it and never letting it live in the first place, but as someone who is adopted i can say that it's not necessarily the case...

it just depends on what viewpoint the child chooses to take... either the point of "they loved me and knew that they couldn 't provide for me, so they gave me up." or "They hated me, and i'm unwanted, so therefore useless." ... or something along those lines... it really just depends on the person and their current situation...

so... i don't think that that's a ligitimate argument...
All_You_Need_Is_Love
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:28am
love is dead:

OK so if you do put the child up for an adaption then how is it gonna fell knowing that it was brought in this world kicking and screaming but there own mother not even been able to look at it.

What happens years after when they find their birth mother and ask her "Why didn't you want me? why didn't you love me?"
Then comes the question of "who is my dad?"


But i guess you have to put yourself in that situation, could you go through getting raped and bringing that child into this cruel world then putting it up for adoption?
Some people could but many couldn't.

You could be all for abortion but then when you get pregnant you decide to keep it; or you could be totally against abortion but then you get pregnant and decide to have an abortion.


It depends on the child.
It is better to have the right of life than not to.
Plain and simple.

The answer: I was young and could not take care of you.
The question about father's would vary.

It's greedy to not do so. It is selfish to say "I was put in a terrible situation therefore you have no right to live." That is sick and greedy.
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:31am
NotOkay22:
Already_Dead10:
Yeah. Like, its the mom's choice, but killing another human being is wrong, even if the human being is not techincally alive. Hmm, what would Gerard Way and My CHemcail Romance think of this?


Why should that matter?

Almost all of my opinions are the exact opposite of what MCR thinks. Does that stop me? Nope. You ant form opinions based on what a band (no matter how good) thinks.


What the hell is with everybody.
Shes just wondering. Shes not saying " my opinion is whatever mcr's is."

johnny walker eyes.
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:33am
love is dead:

OK so if you do put the child up for an adaption then how is it gonna fell knowing that it was brought in this world kicking and screaming but there own mother not even been able to look at it.


Well, i guess that would hurt to be degree... but i would rather that then y'know.. have died xD

But thats the opinion of a child.
To my understanding, the mother would feel quite guilty.
DIE! DIE! DIE!
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October 9th, 2007 at 11:45pm
So two of my friends both just had abortions two days apart.

That was drama

I was talking to one of them about it, and she actually wanted to keep it. Her dick ex though, he basically told her "I will dump you" if she did, not to mention her parents would have left her on her own. I was sad that she had to make the choice she did half hearted, but I have to agree with her, she WOULDN'T have made it on her own if she kept it, and she wasn't about to graduate early to have it either.

and seriously, im glad she didn't have it and then put it up for adoption. You know one of the reasons many parents don't get to adopt..you know, besides all of those stupid laws?
Everyone wants white babies.
I am SO against white people being able to put children up for adoption, because it stops the black ones from being adopted. Check out the races at an adoption center, you'll see. Whites give kids up just as much as blacks, yet adoption centers are crowded with black children.

So effing wrong.

Oh..and do wish my friend luck. It crushed her to abort the baby. We were both orginally really excited for her to have it.
genresR4losers
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October 10th, 2007 at 01:00am
^okay... first of all... this isn't the place to talk about adoption... keep that in mind... but also keep in mind that white babies need homes just as much as black babies do... true... it's sad that people are so biased, but it's a fact of life...

secondly.... while we're on the topic of facts of life... it doesn't matter what color the baby is that's killed... if there's someone out there who is willing to love it and take it in... even if there isn't... it still deserves a chance at life...

thirdly... i'm glad that not everyone thinks as you do... cause other wise i would be dead... so... thanks....
DIE! DIE! DIE!
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October 10th, 2007 at 01:11am
I think there is still a place for adoption here if your talking about it's flaws given anti abortionists seem to talk it up so much. Fact is, there are thousands more babies up for adoption then there are "loving families that want them".
And the ones many of them want are white, so there are even less children being adopted. I just don't like how some people talk like we need more children up for adoption therefore people SHOULDN'T get abortions. it ties together, and it's a totally unrealistic statement to make.

It's a waste to have more people so viciously crowding this earth, just as it's a waste to have more children up for adoption then there are people who can adopt.
Perfectly Demented
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October 10th, 2007 at 04:50am
On the subject of rape victims choosing adoption, why would the child ask the mother "Why don't you love me?" if she could've so easily gotten an abortion? Maybe a woman could realize that the relationship between the mother and child would be unhealthy due to the rape, but at the same time she would know it isn't the child's fault.

You don't necessarily choose adoption if you don't want your baby or don't love your baby. I mean, maybe some parents are thinking "I don't want this child. Let someone else have him/her." but maybe others are thinking "I love this child, but I couldn't possibly give him/her what they need to lead a healthy life. I'll let someone else who is actually capable raise this child."

Maybe this getting off the subject a little too much, anyway.
Mindfuck
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October 10th, 2007 at 06:11am
Adoption, as opposed to abortion, isn't always the right answer. In threory, adoption seems ideal: parent(s) put a child up for adoption, and someone else adopts it into a loving home. It doesn't always work like that. Children that aren't adopted get left in orphanages until they are of age to leave. By then, they would have been raised by the orphanage, and the conditions might not be the best environment for a child to be raised. Then what will they do when they leave? They will most likely search for their parents. As much as that can be a good thing, it can also be devastating and heartbreaking to know that your parents didn't want you.

This is why abortion is legal. Not every fetus can survive, and not every fetus should have to survive. I hate to break it to you idealists out there, but abortion is always going to remain. Always.
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October 10th, 2007 at 07:42pm
I wouldn't put a child up for adoption myself.
I'd rather keep it and screw up my life (depending on the circumstances).

Seriously, I've had my experience with the social care in this country.
I wouldn't put anyone through it.

If you haven't seen it, it's hard for you to judge.
MADIS0N.
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October 10th, 2007 at 11:37pm
The fetus's heart starts beating by day 18.
Brain waves are detected at six weeks.

So, if if person can be declared dead by the absence of heartbeats and brainwaves, why can't the fetus be declared alive by its vital signs?
MADIS0N.
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October 10th, 2007 at 11:40pm
PlushToy:
Adoption, as opposed to abortion, isn't always the right answer. In threory, adoption seems ideal: parent(s) put a child up for adoption, and someone else adopts it into a loving home. It doesn't always work like that. Children that aren't adopted get left in orphanages until they are of age to leave. By then, they would have been raised by the orphanage, and the conditions might not be the best environment for a child to be raised. Then what will they do when they leave? They will most likely search for their parents. As much as that can be a good thing, it can also be devastating and heartbreaking to know that your parents didn't want you.

This is why abortion is legal. Not every fetus can survive, and not every fetus should have to survive. I hate to break it to you idealists out there, but abortion is always going to remain. Always.


You can't change the fact that there are unwanted children out there by killing them.
I think most people would be happy to know that while their conception wasn't planned, their mother still loved them enough to give them a chance to continue living outside the womb.
JadeTiger712
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October 11th, 2007 at 03:37am
^ I agree with you