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October 23rd, 2007 at 10:10pm
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Abortion stops a beating human heart. Now if the fetus did not have this key organ then I probably wouldnt have any problem with abortion. But it does. It has the key to life. A heart and a brain are probably the most important of the organs (thats just guessing, so dont come pounding me with "no there is also the compflowdiutzjeggerflieg organ!" or something like that). When aborted this "thing" has a working beating heart, and a still developing brain. I dont think in any way those two facts can be dismissed. That is why I have such a problem with abortion.


Not all abortion "stops a human heart". Not all of these fetuses hearts are formed. I don't really see how he heart is the key to life anyway..isn't that the brain..like you said?
When a brain and heart are actually developed, it's different (well, not to me, but to most people)
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October 24th, 2007 at 12:48am
Not all abortions are performed late-term. In fact, women are discouraged heavily from having an abortions after the first trimester. I know that doesn't always happen, but in some places late term abortion is actually illegal.

A lot of women who have abortions abort the embryo before the third trimester's up.
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October 24th, 2007 at 02:43am
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Not every woman that undergoes an abortion is doing so because she accidentally fell pregnant and doesn't want a child.
There are women out there that are medically informed that for their own benefit it is safer to abort the fetus. [/size]


The thing about that is that only about 3.3% of abortions are performed due to Risk to fetal health and only
2.8% because of Risk to maternal health


THANK YOU!

and oh, don't say i'm some kind of a prude because i say that people should know what their getting into when they have sex. i understand that people love each other. but it's not the babies fault that something went wrong. not saying it's the parents fault either. it just shouldn't have to be taken out on them
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October 24th, 2007 at 04:41am
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NotOkay22:
Abortion stops a beating human heart. Now if the fetus did not have this key organ then I probably wouldnt have any problem with abortion. But it does. It has the key to life. A heart and a brain are probably the most important of the organs (thats just guessing, so dont come pounding me with "no there is also the compflowdiutzjeggerflieg organ!" or something like that). When aborted this "thing" has a working beating heart, and a still developing brain. I dont think in any way those two facts can be dismissed. That is why I have such a problem with abortion.


Not all abortion "stops a human heart". Not all of these fetuses hearts are formed. I don't really see how he heart is the key to life anyway..isn't that the brain..like you said?
When a brain and heart are actually developed, it's different (well, not to me, but to most people)


Most abortions are performed 2 months into the pregnancy. By that time the fetus' heart is alive and pumping, and the brain is developing.

The heart is what provides the support for everything else to work. No heart, no life. No brain, no life. You need them both, and they are both main organs, which is why I used th term "the key to life".
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October 24th, 2007 at 04:56am
Well if you don't have a urinary track, you'll die as well. There are few organs that arn't a key to life.

BTW, in America, abortion is only legal after the second trimester (unless there are special circumstances)

Development (this is actually from a prolife website)
No brain or heart functions yet ^_^
Baby’s muscles and skeletal system – complete with bone marrow - are beginning for grow fast now. The skin is translucent and thickening slightly, with developing “peach fuzz” hair on the scalp and eyebrows. Tiny eyelashes form on still-closed eyelids.

Gender starts to take shape as Baby’s ovaries (for girls) or prostate (for boys) move into place and start to develop. An unborn baby’s sex is usually apparent during the routine ultrasound done at 20 weeks gestation.

By the end of the second trimester, a baby produces urine through fully functioning kidneys, has begun to store fat under his or her skin, has developed a sense of direction and balance, and has functioning lungs.l.
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October 24th, 2007 at 11:53pm
I personally wouldnt have an abortion. I just think its wrong to kill the baby at all. I mean now aboritions can be had until like the 6th month of pregnancy and the babys about a bit more then half already grown. I just find it weird that there are laws about hurting animals and that you could go to jail for it, but people think its fine to kill the babys while they are growing in their mothers womb.
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October 25th, 2007 at 12:51am
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Well if you don't have a urinary track, you'll die as well. There are few organs that arn't a key to life.

BTW, in America, abortion is only legal after the second trimester (unless there are special circumstances)

Development (this is actually from a prolife website)
No brain or heart functions yet ^_^
Baby’s muscles and skeletal system – complete with bone marrow - are beginning for grow fast now. The skin is translucent and thickening slightly, with developing “peach fuzz” hair on the scalp and eyebrows. Tiny eyelashes form on still-closed eyelids.

Gender starts to take shape as Baby’s ovaries (for girls) or prostate (for boys) move into place and start to develop. An unborn baby’s sex is usually apparent during the routine ultrasound done at 20 weeks gestation.

By the end of the second trimester, a baby produces urine through fully functioning kidneys, has begun to store fat under his or her skin, has developed a sense of direction and balance, and has functioning lungs.l.


Ahem, most abortions are performed when the fetus' heart is pumping.
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October 25th, 2007 at 01:56am
Most abortions COULDN'T be performed when the heart is pumping. I mean literally. I don't know where you get your information, but after the second trimester, you need a pretty good reason to get an abortion.

and either way, what's the heart matter if there is no brain activity?
UndyingSoul.
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October 25th, 2007 at 04:10pm
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Most abortions COULDN'T be performed when the heart is pumping. I mean literally. I don't know where you get your information, but after the second trimester, you need a pretty good reason to get an abortion.

and either way, what's the heart matter if there is no brain activity?


All of the girls who I met had their abortions when the heart was beating. Thats where I get my information. The heart forms pretty early.

I think it matters a heck of a lot, but thats just me.
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October 25th, 2007 at 06:39pm
Well, see, now abortion is illegal after the end of the first trimester. When it is still an embryo. I believe it's considered a fetus after six months, though I'm not entirely sure.

I'm pro-choice. Because, though I don't think I would get an abortion, I believe that a woman should be able to decide what's best for her and her baby, and what may happen in her/their future.
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October 25th, 2007 at 06:42pm
^actually, it's considered a fetus when it is capable of surviving outside of the womb by itself, which is actually around 20 weeks... roundabout...

sorry, just thought that i would clarify that...
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October 25th, 2007 at 06:53pm
Good to know ^_^

But what are it's chances at survival outside the womb at five months?

And it's kindsorta moot at that point anyway, seeing as very few fetuses are being aborted, and none legally, at this point in time.
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October 26th, 2007 at 02:20pm
In case you didn't know, there's a difference between an embryo and a fetus.

And a fetus cannot survive outside of the womb at 20 weeks - it would be amazingly premature, as the major organs have not completely developed and it would be said that any fetus that survives at that stage, and becomes a truly healthy human being is considered a miracle - scientifically and/or emotionally.
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October 26th, 2007 at 06:30pm
First of all.

To the people getting abortions... If you didnt want the baby dont have SEX. plain and simple. Even if you do have a health problem you know having sex might result in a baby. If something was wrong with me, which there is i have medical issues that could indanger me i still didnt get no abortion. Im happily 3 months pregnant.

and yes i know a girl named Shannon who got an abortion at the 5th month and that babies heart was beating trust me Basically if its older they will kill it be either saline injection or simply inducing labor very early and rip the babys body into pieces as if it was nothing.

my friend shannons babys heart came out the next day it was sickening.

abortion should be illeagal.
your killing someone a person that coudlve been you.
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October 26th, 2007 at 06:36pm
His Infernal Majesty:


To the people getting abortions... If you didnt want the baby dont have SEX. plain and simple. .


What if you get raped?
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October 26th, 2007 at 08:08pm
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To the people getting abortions... If you didnt want the baby dont have SEX. plain and simple. .


What if you get raped?

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i mean most people would think it would be ok then.
but its not the babys fault its still a life. a very fragile life. no matter who the father its not the babys fault it was concieved...
my mom got raped.. and im the result.
but she didnt abort me.

and if you seriously dont want it give it up for adoption give it to someone who has tried and failed to have a baby of their own.
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October 26th, 2007 at 10:45pm
[quote="His Infernal Majesty"]First of all.

To the people getting abortions... If you didnt want the baby dont have SEX. plain and simple.

Hold on, hold on...so people who LOVE eachother don't have the right to have sex unless they want a kid?

Even if you do have a health problem you know having sex might result in a baby. If something was wrong with me, which there is i have medical issues that could indanger me i still didnt get no abortion. Im happily 3 months pregnant.
Some people would rather live then possibly die or be pregnant and then have the child die. Just because it's what you want do do doesn't mean others should follow your oh so moral example

and yes i know a girl named Shannon who got an abortion at the 5th month and that babies heart was beating trust me Basically if its older they will kill it be either saline injection or simply inducing labor very early and rip the babys body into pieces as if it was nothing.
5th month is dramatically late for an abortion, and while I support it regardless, the side I am debating for doesn't, and (most of the time) neither does the US Government.5th month and second trimester are two vasty different things.
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October 27th, 2007 at 12:19am
i know that everyone has a right to make choices for themselves, but i think that it's wrong to kill a person before they get to make that choice for themselves... that's just my opinion....
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October 27th, 2007 at 01:55am
Let's get one thing clear: humans have sex for TWO reasons. To procreate, and for pleasure.

Couples SHOULD NOT be denied the right to have sex, just because it MIGHT result in a pregnancy. Couples have the right to terminate the embryo if they feel they need to, if they can't look after it etc. At the end of the day, it's THEIR decision. If you don't like abortion, keep out of other people's business. Abortion is legal for a reason, and that's for the mother's welfare.
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October 27th, 2007 at 04:47am
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His Infernal Majesty:


Hold on, hold on...so people who LOVE eachother don't have the right to have sex unless they want a kid?


Some people would rather live then possibly die or be pregnant and then have the child die. Just because it's what you want do do doesn't mean others should follow your oh so moral example


5th month is dramatically late for an abortion, and while I support it regardless, the side I am debating for doesn't, and (most of the time) neither does the US Government.5th month and second trimester are two vasty different things.


1...people who love each other who "accidently" got pregnant wouldnt probably abort if they loved each other so much..yeah people can im not stopping them any time soon..

2.first of all. im not moral or trying to give you a damn moral. im just saying my opinion. can you respect that? yeah. im happy 3 months pregnant. so what? and yeah theres complications.that might indanger you but still i see a lot of people not getting abortions because of it. sure some do. but most do it because they just dont want it..

3. the 5th month and the 2nd trimester arent different. the 5 month is in the 2nd trimester....so.

personally i think killing kids before they have a choice of life is wrong.
it shouldnt be up to the person if they want to keep a life that they didnt control at first.

*Just because a couple loves each other doesnt mean they have to have sex, at all. people can love each other while not having sex*

and if they do have sex and they dont want a child well use protection. a lot . and i know it doesnt always work but better that than nothing.


people know the chances when and what theyre doing.