Abortions.
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| Failure to Breathe. Motor Baby  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 979 | |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | 1...people who love each other who "accidently" got pregnant wouldnt probably abort if they loved each other so much..yeah people can im not stopping them any time soon.. so now your saying that you need to want children to love eachother? 2.first of all. im not moral or trying to give you a damn moral. im just saying my opinion. can you respect that? yeah. im happy 3 months pregnant. so what? and yeah theres complications.that might indanger you but still i see a lot of people not getting abortions because of it. sure some do. but most do it because they just dont want it.. Your talking about your moral values, IE your opinion, and suggesting that abortion should be illegal, which is the idea that YOUR value system should be everyone's, or pushed onto everyone 3. the 5th month and the 2nd trimester arent different. the 5 month is in the 2nd trimester....so. Sorry./ I was literally stoned off my ass when I typed this XD personally i think killing kids before they have a choice of life is wrong. it shouldnt be up to the person if they want to keep a life that they didnt control at first. If alive to you mean a thoughtless, brainless, useless, emotionless object, then sure, whatever you say. Many people however, think of a human as more then just an appendage. *Just because a couple loves each other doesnt mean they have to have sex, at all. people can love each other while not having sex* and if they do have sex and they dont want a child well use protection. a lot . and i know it doesnt always work but better that than nothing. Yes, but sex is expected in a healthy, normal couple. Humans are BUILT to have pleasurable sex. I wouldn't ever expected a loving couple, married or not, to deny themselves something that is all too normal. |
| beautiful loser. Really Not Okay  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 644 | the woman that has the kid should just keep it and put it up for adoption instead of fucking killing it and not letting it have a life |
| the original JULES Demolition Lover  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 19598 | saved-by-the-bert: I will not tolerate profanity in this thread, or forum. State your opinion if you will, but do so in a POLITE way. |
| Fading Sanity Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 1240 | ~I am prochoice. The mother is the one who has to give birth to the child, woman have died due to complications during birth,she should decide whether she wants to bring it into the world. Whether you consider it murder or not, there are already enough kids in orphnages. Also, the earth is becoming too overpopulated, why push it further by forcing a woman to have a child she may not be able to care for? I don't mean to offend anyone, I respect that other people have other oppinions, I'm just stating and justifying mine |
| notOK1219 Killjoy  Age: 41 Gender: Female Posts: 22 | "personally i think killing kids before they have a choice of life is wrong. it shouldnt be up to the person if they want to keep a life that they didnt control at first. If alive to you mean a thoughtless, brainless, useless, emotionless object, then sure, whatever you say. Many people however, think of a human as more then just an appendage." A baby is a baby when it is created. Abortion is MURDER it is a senseless act of murder. from the time a woman becomes pregnant til the time the baby is born it is a miracle, one that woman take for granted sometimes. When someone murders an innocent baby they should stop and think about the women out there who can't experience that miracle. |
| the original JULES Demolition Lover Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 19598 | notOK1219: Are you serious? Regardless of being religious or "moral" or whatever, you cannot deny the scientific facts that a baby is NOT a baby until it is born, or until it develops its major internal organs allowing it to survive independently. (No, I don't mean independent that it can provide its own food etc.) It is an embryo, which then develops into a fetus. |
| Mindfuck Always Born a Crime  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614 | His Infernal Majesty: First of all, the embryo is not a "kid". It is not actually fully alive, it does not have the same functions as a "kid" yet. And why shouldn't it be up to the mother? After all, it is her body that is going through it all, and it is her body that the embryo is inside of. If we took away a woman's right to abortion, we are taking the right away from women to have control over their own body. His Infernal Majesty: I think you'll find that a most couples in a long term relationship are sexually active with each other [I'm talking about adults here, not necessarily teenagers]. I mean, in theory, yes there are other ways of "loving" each other. But majority of long term couples want to be, and will be, sexually active with each other. And no one can stop that. |
| NJ Sucess Story Jazz Hands  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 337 | i think this is all just ridiculious. because it is an unnatural thing. if the freak of nature that decided to invent this, or at least make it a legitament medical procedure never did so. nobody would have be talking about it. we would have never though of it, and thusly, everyone would just be stuck with the baby. so honestly, can't we waste our time arguing about something that didn't just come about because some asshole decided it was a good idea? |
| x-Hail Of Bullets-x Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 483 | AngryMailPerson: A lot of things that happen in life now are not entirely natural. Basically any medication is un-natural and man made... are you saying that no one should ever say, take a pain killer (or any medication for that matter, just an example) ever because it's un-natural? I think that's not really a valid point in whether abortion is wrong or not. Because basically any surgery or medical procedure isn't 'natural'. Thats pretty much the same as saying a c-section is un-natural and should just be forgotten about. |
| Fading Sanity Bleeding on the Floor Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 1240 | I agree with you (hail of bullets) there really isn't a whole lot of things that are natural anymore, i mean houses? cars? Nothing natural about it, so I think that saying it isn't natural doesn't really mean anything since nothing is anymore. |
| the original JULES Demolition Lover Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 19598 | AngryMailPerson: Excuse me, no one "invented" abortion. It has been occuring for centuries on end. Just because there wasn't a media to publicise the happy events doesn't mean it never happened before the 21st century. Please, open your mind a little more. It will not kill you. If abortion became such a taboo topic that it was never spoken about, well then it'd never be discussed, but it doesn't take the fact away that it would never happen. That's called ignorance or denial. Take your pick. If this is wasting YOUR time, then YOU stop talking about it. We're free to discuss any topic you consider a time-waster. I find that to sound particularly arrogant and rude. Maybe you're not suited to discussions - that is, talking of a topic where people have DIFFERENT opinions. |
| Simple and Clean Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 2616 | Although some Babies born can live outside the womb at 23 weeks, they can't do it without being hooked up to a machine 24/7. Therefor, in my opinion, they can't really survive at that age. And, 90% of abortions are taken place before the embryo is 14 weeks old, at that age, in my opinion, it is still a clump of cells. Making abortion illegal, or changing the legal cut off date for abortion, won't work. If people are determined to have an abortion, they will, in what ever way they can. |
| S713 Joining The Black Parade  Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 225 | Well, technically all you are now is a clump of cells. Only thing is, you now have the ability to realize that you are a clump of cells. Thats all anybody is. So, whether you get your kicks by scrambling the brains of human embryos with an egg beater or blowing somebody's head off with an 12 gauge, you're just killing a bunch of cells. Trust me, I've seen death. You all die the same way. You all breath the same way. Nobody is special. It's a pitiful little scientific fact. Also, I'm neutral when it comes to abortions, being as I am a male and do not expect to get pregnant anytime in the near future. At least I hope not.  |
| DAMAGECONTROL Joining The Black Parade  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 226 | I'm 50/50 on this. I think that abortion is murder but still that the mother should be able to decide herself. Sometimes it's just more right to do an abortion than keeping the baby. But I think that if you're not ready for a baby then you should always have safe sex, 'cause doing an abortion when you could have just used a condom instead is just stupid. So yeah, I think abortion is okay sometimes, and sometimes not. |
| j_zillmann24 Motor Baby  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 773 | i think abortion is a good and bad thing really. I am 50/50 on this topic as well. I think a woman who is raped should have the choice legal to terminate the pregnancy because the woman herself got forced into that situation. But if you become pregnant just because you were lazy and didnt use protection that is your own fault. Abortion shouldnt really be used as an easy way out if your lazy. If you get what i am saying?? |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | j_zillmann24: It's funny how many people are so quick to judge.. |
| Boys Night Out Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 2684 | This is just my opinion on this... I think if you are going to have sex and take the chance of becoming pregnant, then therefore it's your responsibility. If you don't want the baby, then put it up for adoption at least. Let it have a life. It's such a hard topic, because it all depends on the situation. |
| NJ Sucess Story Jazz Hands Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 337 | history boy.: hm. i don't think anything has actually irritated me more in my entire life than that response. you don't know me, so dno't tell me to open my mind. trust me i'm DEFINETLY open minded. it's just you people, arguging weather abortion should be legal or not, i just find it amusing when people argue about something that was man made, because if it was never PUBLICIZED then we wouldn't be talking about it. hm, the only thing that amuses me more than that is when people are so quick to judge someone they don't know, or a situation i know nothing about. i'm not saying if i knew someone that has gotten an abortion (which i do) that i would think any less of them. it all boils down to the situation. when you have sex you take the responsibilty of knowing you might get pregnant. it's the way it goes. i'm not telling you not to do it, i'm telling you to take responsibility for your actions and stop taking the easy way out |
| Mindfuck Always Born a Crime Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614 | AngryMailPerson: You say you're open minded, but yet you don't take into account that abortion is actually socially acceptable by most people. If you ask any woman that has had an abortion, and I challenge you to do this, then she will most likely tell you it was a hard and painful decision to make. Why would she choose to have it then?, you may ask. You have to take into account that not every single woman is going to be ready and able to have a child at any stage in her life. And that also means physically able to not only carry the child to full term, but also physically care for the child. Amongst other things. Secondly, yes, abortion is "man made", but it is a medical / surgical procedure. All medical / surgical procedures are "man made" in a way. The point I want to stress is that it is a medical / surgical procedure, and that is not a bad thing. In fact, if we did not have abortion as it is performed today, then people would still be performing "backyard / backstreet abortions", whereby the woman, or someone else assisting her, terminates the pregnancy in horrific ways that I personally don't want to spell out. And, I know, unfortunately these DIY abortions are still carried out in some countries where abortion is illegal. This brings me to another point. If abortion procedures were illegal, then that would not wholly stop abortion. As I stated before, people would perform them themselves, or with the assistance of untrained others, which can be very dangerous for the woman's health. As much as you probably don't want to admit it, abortion has been around for time immemorial. It's just that, these days, there are much better and safer ways of performing the medical procedure. And now that there is the abortion pill, which has actually been around for a number of years now, I think that this is a sign that we are actually creating better methods to perform abortion, which can only be a good thing in terms of doing it humanely. AngryMailPerson: I highly doubt that most women who have had an abortion can say it was "taking the easy way out". In fact, I am quite offended by you saying that. Abortion is hard for a woman to go through, but in some circumstances it has to be done for the sake of the woman. I know you don't like to be told this, but you do, in fact, need to open your mind on this issue. I know I don't know you, but you are actually the one who is judging others negatively. You are stereotyping women who have abortions, saying that they are "taking the easy way out". |
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