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June 24th, 2007 at 11:42pm
^ yeah, but they don't know if tomorrow things will work out, but i see your pionts. but back before abortions, weren't un-wanted children over running the orphages? thats why they had all the orphan trains?
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June 24th, 2007 at 11:48pm
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im 50/50 i think that if you get raped or something like that and you dont want the baby to be anything like that person that you should get an abortion but on the other hand the baby is stilla person whether its born or not an it is kinda like murder. I read this thing on some website once that was from the unborn babys point of view and how the baby thought it was loved but then it started feeling pain and didnt know how the mother that it loved could be doing that to it..i know that sounds a little impossible but just think about it

That's propaganda.
Something without a brain is not able to feel pain. :\
Now, if it happens to have a brain, I doubt it has a thought process. Not even human beings can remember anything until they are three, I think.
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June 25th, 2007 at 12:25am
^yea i didnt think bout that and i see what ur sayin
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June 25th, 2007 at 12:43am
^the message board is to see things in other peoples viewpionts. but if today you were pregnant and knew you couldn't raise the child would you terminate your pregnancy? it's hard but thats what a lot of people have to think about so maybe it better, so for that reason i am prochioce
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June 25th, 2007 at 12:47am
is it possible 2 change my mind cuz im goin 2..ive read all this an i now realize that abortions should be the mothers choice cuz maybe they cant aford having a child or just dont have time to have one
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June 25th, 2007 at 01:07am
^ Hey, everyone has a right to change their mind, especially once they've been presented with some information they weren't already aware of.
To me, it's just stubborn and really arrogant to refuse to change your mind or admit you were wrong once new evidence comes to light on a subject.
I'm glad you're able to accept that there are many different opinions on this touchy subject, and glad that you're willing to absorb new ideas and theories and then apply them to your own beliefs and feelings - I'm always willing to educate myself and learn more on something so I can form a more informed opinion on a topic.
I agree - abortion should definitely be kept legal, as I feel the mother's life and wellbeing is far more important than a clump of cells that doesn't know any different to begin with.
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June 25th, 2007 at 01:14am
^ yeah, but people think that it's wrong and god had the women concieve for a reason, but he knows the future right? or at least what i heard, so maybe he wants to teach people a lesson, but i don't know
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June 25th, 2007 at 01:52am
savedbymcr_2004:
^ yeah, but people think that it's wrong and god had the women concieve for a reason, but he knows the future right? or at least what i heard, so maybe he wants to teach people a lesson, but i don't know

We can yell for a reason, but we don't have to, now do we?
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June 25th, 2007 at 02:04am
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^ yeah, but people think that it's wrong and god had the women concieve for a reason, but he knows the future right? or at least what i heard, so maybe he wants to teach people a lesson, but i don't know

Not everybody believes in God, or wants to follow the rules humans claim He set out for us.
I believe that I have a right to do whatever I want with my own body, and that God has no influence over my decisions. Nor should religion have any influence over the government and laws - therefore, abortion should have absolutely nothing to do with religion. If Christians believe God said abortion is wrong, then Christians shouldn't have abortions. But me, I don't follow their doctrines and therefore I shouldn't be denied the right to have an abortion if that's what I feel is right. My body and my choices are none of their business. It's like alcohol - it's legal, but people who don't approve of it or wish to use it simply don't drink it. They don't go around trying to get it banned, because other people have the right to make their own decisions.
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June 25th, 2007 at 02:15am
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is it possible 2 change my mind cuz im goin 2..ive read all this an i now realize that abortions should be the mothers choice cuz maybe they cant aford having a child or just dont have time to have one


Im really glad you said this. It's so rare when having serious discussions to have someone stop and say "Hey, maybe there is another side to this"

That's really mature. You rock
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June 25th, 2007 at 06:14am
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is it possible 2 change my mind cuz im goin 2..ive read all this an i now realize that abortions should be the mothers choice cuz maybe they cant aford having a child or just dont have time to have one


Im really glad you said this. It's so rare when having serious discussions to have someone stop and say "Hey, maybe there is another side to this"

That's really mature. You rock

I totally agree. *applauds* Good to see someone with a little backbone - most people would never back down on their stance, regardless of how right or wrong they've been proven to be. Not that there is really a right or wrong to this argument, it's all about individual opinions and feelings, but at least you're willing to admit that you don't know everything and are able to say you can shange your mind based on what you've learned recently.
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June 25th, 2007 at 01:03pm
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is it possible 2 change my mind cuz im goin 2..ive read all this an i now realize that abortions should be the mothers choice cuz maybe they cant aford having a child or just dont have time to have one


Im really glad you said this. It's so rare when having serious discussions to have someone stop and say "Hey, maybe there is another side to this"

That's really mature. You rock

I totally agree. *applauds* Good to see someone with a little backbone - most people would never back down on their stance, regardless of how right or wrong they've been proven to be. Not that there is really a right or wrong to this argument, it's all about individual opinions and feelings, but at least you're willing to admit that you don't know everything and are able to say you can shange your mind based on what you've learned recently.
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im glad someone does have the courage to change there mind and say it. like people said thats really mature of you

but onto the subject of abortion::

abortion kills. theres simply no other way to put it. i dont understand if the baby wont be treated correctly then you put it up for adoption. i dont see whats so hard to beleive about that. 1 out of 3 babies in this country will become victims of an abortion. i know and we all know that 1 and 3 parents in this country aren't that poor. i used to live and detriot and despite all their finacial struggles of my neighbors they all had the money to have children. theres no moral in killing human. when people say you can then your being selfish. most of you dont understand we were all fetus' once too. we could have been aborted but for the right reasons our parents did not. theres always adoption, and theres no need to kill the innocent. most you could say its like your having your period. well, thats your point of view. i do repect that a women has a right to choose but its at the point where abortion is becoming an icon of our society. its being used by people who really dont need abortions. im fine with abortions through rape. thats reasonable cause. but to go out have sex have an abortion and repeat the process might seem like thats emphasized too much, but thats the reality of what is happening today.
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June 25th, 2007 at 02:09pm
The seperation of the rich and the poor in this country is phenomninal, so you never know. Even if they are not poor, the family that has them may be unfit parents (I am very rich and my parents arn't very fit)

There are no morals in killing anything, but if a fetus is aborted before the second trimester, it's like a woman having her period. There is nothing inside the fetus to speak of that is killing. It has no functional brain, and no feelings. That would be saying that we should somehow fertalize all of our eggs: It doesn't make sense to me.
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June 25th, 2007 at 03:11pm
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1 out of 3 babies in this country will become victims of an abortion.

No, they won't.
Because a baby is a human that is out of the womb and you can't abort something that isn't in the womb.
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June 25th, 2007 at 03:35pm
LoversHeartDisease:
The seperation of the rich and the poor in this country is phenomninal, so you never know. Even if they are not poor, the family that has them may be unfit parents (I am very rich and my parents arn't very fit)

There are no morals in killing anything, but if a fetus is aborted before the second trimester, it's like a woman having her period. There is nothing inside the fetus to speak of that is killing. It has no functional brain, and no feelings. That would be saying that we should somehow fertalize all of our eggs: It doesn't make sense to me.

exactly, there are more reasons then just money, and though the fetus has devolped alittle bit it's not enough to keep alive outside the womb, and if the mother doesn't want it, why make her have?
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June 25th, 2007 at 04:04pm
It's not that, it's that the fetus has not even developed a brain. It has no functional ANYTHING. A body and a mind are very different. You min'as'well be saving a dead body from..being...killed....?_?
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June 25th, 2007 at 04:20pm
^but wait you can't really can call it dead, can you? because it is devolping, and itneeds food and oxygen, but it has started to devolpe something, right?
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June 25th, 2007 at 04:21pm
haha, yes. I guess what I mean is that there are no brainwaves coming through it. No conciousness.
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June 25th, 2007 at 04:31pm
oh, i get it now. i don't see why people make such a huge fight over this, if it helps out, whats the problem?
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June 25th, 2007 at 05:11pm
savedbymcr_2004:
oh, i get it now. i don't see why people make such a huge fight over this, if it helps out, whats the problem?

The problem is right wing republicans who refuse to accept scientific facts.