Abortions.
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| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | ^that sounds really weird. let me re-phrase that. what about the people who have had abortions and became pro-life after their abortion seeing how much of a mistake it was? a) i do know what its like, I had one b) my abortion had a huge impact on my family and friends |
| dear matthew Joining The Black Parade  Age: - Gender: Male Posts: 186 | 97%???? thats birth control otherwise the sucess rate of any other birth control substitute is much lower |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | ^....Huh? Sorry, that post made zero sense to me. Re-phrase, please. NotOkay22: Most people who get abortions don't see it as a mistake afterwards. They're relieved, they can move on, they keep living. If you do regret your decision, then by all means have your opinion, but at least you experienced it before judging others, and respect that others have a right to make their own choices the way you made your choice. Not everything is the same for everyone, and while you may feel you made a mistake, there may be many other women out there who feel they've done the best thing for them and not regret it at all. As for having an impact on family and friends, well a) you're only 18, of course if you've had an abortion your family would know about it and b) most people don't tell anybody that they were ever pregnant, let alone had an abortion, so it doesn't make a difference to their friends or family - they don't know any better. Most people who get abortions choose to talk to a counsellor or therapist rather than their friends and family, for fear of being judged, so it doesn't make a difference. Besides, while it may have impacted on your personal friends and family, you decision didn't affect me, or other board members, or our friends or family, or the President's friends or family, and that was my point. Of course if everyone's aware of your situation it affects them, but it doesn't affect anybody who doesn't know about it, and that's why I said what I did. If you hadn't told anybody you were pregnant, or that you were getting an abortion, nobody would have been any the wiser and therefore it wouldn't impact on anybody. |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | Sex isn't just about procreation. What you are saying is that two people shouldn't have sex at all, even if they love eachother. Sex is an expression of love as well, and two people don't deserve to be chastised for that. |
| broken. Jazz Hands  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 253 | But they do deserve to be chastised for not using precautions. Yeah expression of love...if you're getting knocked up, but you KNOW that you don't desire or you can't handle the responsibility that comes with a child, you better be using protection. That's the thing, abortion is and should be used as a last resort (after MUCH consideration) because it's no joke. Of course no one's saying don't have sex, but that you should seriously think of what might happen if you end up having a kid. |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | Cigarettes And Suicide: |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | Im really tired of people who don't read a few pages back. There are a lot of careful people who get screwed over because you are never 100% safe. |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | ^ I agree. I figure I have the courtesy to check out previous pages before weighing into a discussion... Honestly, if there's 60 pages worth of posts in this thread, what makes people assume that their opinion is so unique that it hasn't been covered already? I really wish it could be added to the rules, to at least have the manners to read a few previous pages and see what's been gone over already... If I was speaking instead of typing I'd be hoarse from repeating myself by now. |
| broken. Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 253 | ^ Honeslty, I thought you guys would be a little smarter than that. I meant: When couples don't even BOTHER to use protection, then use abortion as a way to get out of it. |
| broken. Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 253 | Cigarettes And Suicide: If we all thought that way, none of us would even go to the Discussion Board. Yeah. Thanks. |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | broken.: Do you have any statistics on how many abortions are performed on women who 'don't bother' to use protection, vs the number of abortions performed on women whose birth control has failed? I highly, highly doubt that, of all the abortions performed in a year, any more than, say, 3% are the result of laziness. A packet of condoms or a prescription for the Pill are much, much cheaper than paying out thousands of dollars for an abortion. And hey, if women are so lazy as to 'not bother' using protection, what makes you think they'd have enough motivation to haul their ass to the abortion clinic and book themselves in? In addition to that, surely if these women were so lazy, they wouldn't realise they're pregnant, or do anything about it, until it's past the cut-off date and they have no choice but to continue with the pregnancy. People aren't that dumb. The people that know birth control helps prevent pregancy, are going to use it, and the ones who either don't know or don't believe in it, don't believe in abortion either. broken.: You obviously didn't get my point. What I was trying to get across, is that there are a lot of us who have the manners and show the courtesy to other members, to take the time to read previous posts to make sure that our opinion hasn't already been shot down in flames (ie proven to be completely false or invalid) or hashed and rehashed a thousand times already. I'm not the only person who gets sick to death of someone coming in on the last page of a discussion saying something stupid like, 'Omg it's totally murdering babies, you horrible monsters!', and having to repeat myself and other posters over. and over. and over. and over again, giving reasons why their argument is redundant, and begging them to have some courtesy and read back a few pages before just jumping in without knowing what's already been said. And, the fact is, there are many different opinions to be shared in these threads - not every topic is a 'for or against' argument - which means even if someone's opinion isn't unique, they can still put their own spin on it or add new information that another user hasn't, and hey - maybe if people read a few previous pages of an argument, they might actually learn something rather than just jumping in with a misguided, misinformed statement, only to get shot down by users who have learned a lot more about the subject by reading previous pages. |
| Casimir Pulaski Day Shotgun Sinner  Age: 91 Gender: Female Posts: 8861 | xsilverbulletx: So then they have to suffer? I don't think that is right. And, putting a child up for adoption is worse than an abortion. Most children in the adoption system are never adopted. Then they get kicked out onto the streets and become a liability to you, the tax payers. Because they go on welfare and have nowhere to go. |
| Casimir Pulaski Day Shotgun Sinner Age: 91 Gender: Female Posts: 8861 | broken.: Fact; people enjoy sex. Whether they are prepared or not they will still have it. Birth control on both parts helps to prevent pregnancies. Many people who are unprepared for children have sex, and don't get pregnant. Other times people are unlucky, and get pregnant. Also, even if you are prepared for a baby (married, financially well to do) it does not mean you want to have a child. People have lives. They want to have a job, or complete school and are not able to spend time on children and being pregnant. And what else is there besides abortion to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy? If you don't want to be pregnant, and are not able to go through with a pregnancy physically, you have no other option. Some people do go through with it and put the child up for adoption. Other are not able to. Women have to go to counseling before having an abortion. Nobody wants to have to have an abortion. |
| guiltfeeder Killjoy  Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 33 | I am so against abortion. 100%. Whatever you say, if you abort a child, you still did a murder the child. Maybe it's the mother's baby but it's also the child's life. |
| HU4L Jazz Hands  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 351 | I understand abortion if you are like 15 or under or raped but if you are like 16 you should know to use condoms and not get pregnet. If you have sex when you are 16 and get pregnet then its your fault for not being responsible. I mean i think its perfectly resonable if you are at an age where having a baby can kill you or you were raped but if you weren't responseable then you should have the baby. I think if you are like 23 then its cruel to have one. And like you said it IS the mothers choice. |
| HU4L Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 351 | I understand abortion if you are like 15 or under or raped but if you are like 16 you should know to use condoms and not get pregnet. If you have sex when you are 16 and get pregnet then its your fault for not being responsible. I mean i think its perfectly resonable if you are at an age where having a baby can kill you or you were raped but if you weren't responseable then you should have the baby. I think if you are like 23 then its cruel to have one(an abortion). And like you said it IS the mothers choice. |
| HU4L Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 351 | oops sorry i posted twice |
| HU4L Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 351 | GER! |
| HU4L Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 351 | and i mean those for in the united states(i dont know anytrhin about other countries) |
| Alx_Aoide Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 113 | oma656: What's the big difference between 15 and 16. It's not a lot and certainly not big enough difference for someone to be mature enough to take care of a baby. And...as it has been said about a gazillion times before on this board, condoms, the pill, etc. are not always 100% effective. Someone could be the most responsible person on the world when it came to safe sex and still end up pregnant. |
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