Abortions.

I know but what I meant was in genaral if you arent fit to have a baby(i've know of 15 year old who have died from hving a baby) then i understand if you have an abortion.

and if your protection doent work then I understand that also. If you are married and dont want to have kids anymore then have the woman get her tubes tied or somrthing else like that. I mean again I say its HER CHOICE.

TayTay**:

Abortion is Murder, I think that it is wrong!

but what if the person was 13 and raped. Most 13 year olds that have babbies die.

at my school they were cruel and sick because they showed a tape of how they do abortion. They only showed the eight grade of that year and i didnt see it but i was in the bathroom when the girls came in crying and when i asked why the said the boys were jerks because they were laughing. they weren't aloud to show that tape because they didnt have permission slips

if your not old enough to take care of a baby.....your not old enough to have sex

oma656:

If you are married and dont want to have kids anymore then have the woman get her tubes tied or somrthing else like that. I mean again I say its HER CHOICE.

My husband and I were just having this conversation last night. I totally disagree.
1) We're planning to have two kids, we just don't want one straight after the first, we're thinking wait three or so years in between. I can't get my tubes tied, then un-tie them to have another baby later on, so what to do? If I happened to fall pregnant right after giving birth to my first one, I'd probably not keep it, because my body needs time to recover, we need time to save money so we can afford to support another child, etc etc.
2) What happens if I get my tubes tied after we have our second baby, and then in five or ten years' time we decide we want another one? I'm screwed.
3) I know women who have had their tubes tied (my mother being one of them), and the general consensus seems to be that it's akin to getting a mastectomy (removing one or both breasts due to cancer) - it's taking away your womanhood, taking away your femininity, it makes you feel like a big fat nothing instead of a woman. It makes you feel ugly, even though it's not something you can see from the outside. You mourn the loss of your childbearing ability, much as women grieve when they reach menopause because it means they will never again be able to conceive a child.

My husband told me in absolutely no uncertain terms that he will never, ever consider a vasectomy - to him, it's taking away him manhood and akin to neutering a dog. I don't feel that anybody who isn't married or of childbearing age can say it's as simple as getting tubes tied - you have no idea what it feels like to be in that situation.
So no, I disagree with you completely. If someone is married and doesn't want to have any more kids, they should take all precautions they can (ie pill, condoms etc) and if all else fails, they have every right to seek an abortion. What happens if they can't afford to support another child, and would likely end up on the street if they went through with having it due to poverty? What if they already live in a really small house and can't afford to move to a bigger one, does the new baby sleep on the couch when it leaves its crib? And don't suggest adoption, because can you imagine trying to explain to your other children why you've been growing a baby in your belly for so long, only to come home from the hospital without one?

i'm against abortion. I mean, it's your fault for getting pregnant right? You are killing a human, unborn or not. You're killing a living thing. It's just so wrong. It just doesn't seem right. unless, you were raped or something at a young age, that isn't your choice. that is when i think you should get an abortion. otherwise, it just isn't right.

No it's not. It's called an accident

Your not killing a human. You are doing the same thing as having your period unless its after the second trimester

I still stand by most of my original post although I probably could've worded it a lot better, but I'm going to have to revise what I said about people that were pro-choice. I still think abortion is wrong and should be avoided when it's possible, but I have come to realize that different people have different opinions on when life begins, some of which has to do with religious beliefs. I don't believe the government should force any belief on anyone so that is why I'm going to have to change my stance to pro-choice.

The arguement of overpopulation that I've seen a few times seems a bit selfish to me, though. Not that it changes anything. Just wanted to throw it out there.

Yes, I know the points I'm trying to make have probably already been expressed by someone else at some point. I just felt like stating my opinion anyway.

I think that you should only get an abortion if you were raped and decide you dont want the baby because of that reason, Also if its going to put the mother in danger.
But at the end of the day it is the mothers decision

.BloodyPetals:

Would you kill a baby? Even unborn, it's still alive.

How many flies have you killed in your entire life? This goes for anybody.

^Exactly.

For something to be truly alive it must be able to exist independently, to take in food and create waste on its own. Up until about the fourth or fifth month, an embryo cannot sustain itself, and so it is not truly alive, is it?

.BloodyPetals:

If aborted, it will never see the world.

It hasn't yet seen the world at the point where it can be aborted. It has no mental capacity, and so it cannot comprehend the idea of the world. So if it never sees it, it has no way to know that it's missed anything.

.BloodyPetals:

Would you kill a baby? Even unborn, it's still alive.

Okay, but here's the thing. Let's say a woman is raped, and gets pregnant. She's not legally allowed to abort the baby, so it grows, and is born. Now the woman is stuck with a constant reminder of a horrible occurrance that she didn't want. So, since she wasn't allowed to abort it, she takes the newborn, stuffs it into a trash bag, and throws it in the dumpster behind a pizzeria.

Even with the option of abortion they are always finding abandoned babies in trash cans. Imagine how many more there will be if abortion is illegalized. Would you rather abort a fetus before it has a brain, a heart, and other organs, and knows nothing of the world? Or would you rather find it in a trash bag in a dumpster?

Im really 50/50 about this.

If your raped, or seriously underaged, then I don't see anything wrong with it.

However, if youre in a serious relationship..and happy, and you just happen to get pregnant, but you wanna get rid of it just for the sake of it, well, I find it kinda wierd that people do it. Youre in a stable relationship, youre mature. Sure, you might not want to have children at that time of your life, but you have options, like giving it up for adoption, which by when that time comes, you might have changed your mind, and you wanna keep it, in which case, everything turns out ok.

It's a life. I think that only under certain circumstances should it be terminated.

It's just my opinion. A lot of what I have just rambled on about might not make sense, I've just read it over myself and got confused! So, don't kill me. =]

I do not believe the fetus can think or feel until it is born.

Actually, I take that back. I'm not sure.

But in any case, I don't think "muder" is the right way to descibe abortion. The only person the abortion could possible hurt is the baby's parents, who are making the conscious decision to get rid of their child. Doctors get rid of the fetus painlessly. It isn't even aware it ever existed. It hasn't been introduced to the ideas of life and death; it was never aware it was alive, and since it can't think after death, it will never even know it died. The only thing abortion can do is good; if the baby was allowed to be born, more likely than not it would be born into a household where it was unloved and uncared for, and wish it had been dead in the first place.

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I do not believe the fetus can think or feel until it is born.

It can feel before birth, but abortions are performed well before the fetus has developed enough to be capable of thinking or feeling.
I know my baby is capable of feeling, and I'm pretty sure thinking, as she does things like pushing up against my ribs if I'm sitting in certain positions that don't allow her enough room to move around, or if I poke her hard enough she wriggles away to the other side of my abdomen to escape the probing, and she kicks in time to certain music, and if she's kicking really hard and I put my hand on my belly, she keeps kicking, but if her dad places his hand over her, she settles down and goes back to sleep.
Which, to me (and according to textbooks and magazines, doctors agree), means she knows when her space is getting cramped, knows the difference between me and my husband (and according to research, can pick her father's voice out of several people talking and recognises him as the prominent male in her life already), and already has her own preferences as far as music goes (she much prefers rap - which her dad listens to all the time - than the rock music I listen to).
So yeah, after a certain period of time in the womb, fetuses can think, feel, hear, see (they react to bright light shining on a pregnant woman's stomach, mine rolls over and pushes her back out so she obviously doesn't like light much), and apparently taste before they are born - it's just that the cut-off period for abortions is well before any of these things develop, therefore abortion isn't 'murder' to me because a fetus is aborted long before it is aware of anything.