Abortions.
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| Philyrajuliet Killjoy  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 17 | CAMERONEO: This aspect of the pro-life argument really bothers me. I think many people consider illegalized abortion as an effective way to control and limit sex, which is undeniably NOT the role of government. If abortion does give some people a "free pass" to have all the sex they want, that's just too bad for anyone that doesn't like it because it not their business. I think my belief is validated by the fact that although the church is pro-life (understandable), they also don't support birth control and sex education (who? why?). If the outrage was solely about the babies, I'd think everyone would be totally FOR preventing unwanted pregnancy that could result in something that's arguably murder. But, alas, that is not the case; it's about control. Personally, on a fundamental level, I am against abortion. I don't think I could ever bring myself to do it because it very well could be murder. Is that ^ the only reason I'm not running wild like Paris Hilton? NO, but if that's what I wanted, I'd have every right to do it. |
| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | CAMERONEO: But if it was made illegal then people would just have un-safe abortions that could be very dangerous. This is a discussion board, you must support your opinions with evidence. Therefore, if you dont want to get attacked or confuse people then I suggest you explain your opinion. |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | CAMERONEO: I obviously can't speak for anybody else, but I for one am soooo over seeing that statement. As far as I'm concerned, you're either for, or against - none of this 'It's totally murdering babies, unless you were raped or under 16, then it's totally fine and not killing children at all,' etc. It's contradictory and hypocritical - if you believe abortion is murder or you're gainst it for whatever reason, then you should be against it whole-heartedly, no exceptions - women who have been raped can still carry the child and raise it, can't they? They could give it up for adoption, couldn't they? I just hate seeing everybody say 'oh I'm against it unless you were raped' - say, for instance, people with opinions like yours 'win' and abortions are made illegal for women who have not fallen pregnant through an unwanted sexual encounter - how is anybody going to enforce this rule? How hard would it be for women to simply front up at the clinic and lie through their teeth that they were assaulted in order to get an abortion? It just couldn't work, so unless you people want to change your minds and say that women who've been raped can suck it up and go through with what is obviously Fate's (or God's, whatever) plan for them, or open your minds and realise that rape is not the only valid reason for getting an abortion, and that very, very, VERY FEW women who have had an abortion have got it because they were slutting around having unprotected sex with different guys, and support a woman's right to do what she chooses with her own body. Think about it for a second, and quit being hypocrites. |
| idk. my bff jill? Demolition Lover  Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 18372 | Fezzik: I see your point. But you never know. But I'm anti-abortion and I'm leaving it at that. |
| dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290 | NotOkay22:I agree. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having abortions. People have their own reasons and that's that. And sometimes, people just want to do things because they know they're not allowed. That's what made my brother an alcoholic, and I'm sure the fact that it's illegal in some places would make some people want to do them even more. |
| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | LoversHeartDisease: What if the mother is going to die? Generally that's the only reason third-trimester abortions occur. If I were going to die, I would get a third-trimester abortion. I can always have another baby. My fiance can't find another me. And vice versa. |
| DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | Ah yes. Thats fair. I probably should have said that. There are some situations where late abortions should be allowed ^^ |
| Lounge Fly Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1061 | I'm pro-choice. I think the position held in the States by most far-right Christian groups is hypocritical, as they go on for eternity about killing a fetus yet are happy to support a Republican government that farms young men and women out to die in Iraq, killing Iraqis, both soldiers and civilians, in the process. Is that not against the Bible, or does the Bible have a special passage that states "thou shalt not kill a fetus, but thou may go and kill and bomb as many Iraqis as possible because they are of a different religion, and thou shalt allow the US President to send their youth to die because Jesus or God says so"?. I am atheist, but does it say that? |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | druscilla; ryry: My husband and I basically said that exact same thing a couple of times. We were discussing what we would do if I miscarried or decided to terminate the pregnancy due to the fetus being deformed or something - he wanted to know if losing this child would be the catalyst for our relationship to break down. But yeah, the fact is, third-trimester abortions (and, to my knowledge, second-trimester abortions) are ONLY performed when there is a definite risk to the mother's health - second- and third-trimester abortions are NOT performed on women who simply do not want the baby - if they miss the 12- or 15-week cut-off (as far as I know, that's the cut-off point), too bad - they have to go through with the pregnancy and either raise the child or give it up for adoption. |
| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | shadow_666: The bible wont state anything that didnt exist when it was written. Abortion didnt exist back then, so the Bible wont say anything like "though shalt not kill fetus" because back then it was impossible, It wouldnt make sense. And I would suggest not grouping Republicans together and saying that they are all for war and death and the killing of the Iraqi people, because that is absolutely not the case. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | arbortion is murder end of story. |
| Alx_Aoide Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 113 | bright lights x x: Abortion is not murder, as it has been said numerous times on this board. A fetus is not a person. It is a group of cells with the potential to grow into a person. |
| raventears Killjoy  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 50 | i personally am debated i think its wrong but the woman should have a choice in weither she gets an abortion |
| Casimir Pulaski Day Shotgun Sinner  Age: 91 Gender: Female Posts: 8861 | raventears: I respect your opinion. I think you don't have to believe in abortion to be pro-choice. Just because you don't personally want an abortion, does not mean everybody else has to go without it. |
| GhouliaYelps Jazz Hands Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 255 | well heres my 2 cents.. i dont actually know whether or not i would have an abortion, having never been in that situation, nor known anyone in that situation..but i dont believe that my personal views ( or lack of) should prevent other women from having abortions. thats what gets me, that religious politicans get to push their views on the general populace, when not all of those people may subscribe to that religion. its not fair on anyone. if your a christian or dont believe in abortion and wouldnt get an abortion.. thats fine, ur choice... but doesnt give u the right to prevent other women from deciding what they want to do with their bodies. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | i think its wrong. if you dont want a baby dont have sex its not brain surgery |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^So no one should have sex unless they want to have a child? Couples in long term relationships? Married couples who can't support children? No one? You can't make all people who can't support or don't want a child stop having sex on the off chance that their birth control might fail and the woman might be ovulating just then and the man's sperm count might be high enough to fertilize an egg which might attach to the uterine lining and might not be miscarried in the first three months. And besides, as has been pointed out numerous times on this thread, an embryo is not alive. It has no brain function and cannot feel pain. If you want to believe that life starts at conception, that's your business, but that shouldn't extend to law, because scientifically, it doesn't. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | well then if birth control might fail be a responsable human being and raise that child. |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | It's not our decision. N.O.T. How could you force a woman to keep a baby she doesn't want? It's cruel. Both for the unborn child and the mother. I would never have an abortion. It's my personal decision. And if I ever change my mind, I don't want any law to stand in my way. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | yes im aware an embryo is not alive but it could have a chance and it saddens me that its up to the careless mother to choose weather it gets that chance or not. on the other hand i do feel that if you were raped an abortion can happen because you really had no choice at all. but if you were careless than you have to step up to your mistake and be the best mother you can be. |
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