Abortions.
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| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: Druscilla pointed this out to me before. And I hadn't thought of it. The aborted baby could've cured cancer. The aborted baby could've also become a mass murderer. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay  Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | Audrey Hepburn.: i can totally understand that but it just kills me that people cant even give it a chance to live and out of there own mistake no i am not trying to tell people not to have sex if they dont wanna child but aleast be responsible for it |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: I see where you're coming from. But we shouldn't force a woman to have a baby as a punishment for sex. Think about it. If she doesn't want it, how do you think she'll treat it? |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | Audrey Hepburn.: then she should have sex knowing she could possibly have a baby and knowing that she should be responsible for it |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: What if she's young? What if she's not financially stable enough? |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | then shes a dumbass for having sex so young |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: . . .that's your excuse? She's a dumbass? We're not talking about the person's mental health here. You want to punish her with a baby? |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | Audrey Hepburn.: you should be in a stable relationship before you have sex |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | you shouldnt have to punish any women with a baby thats the point! if shes gonna have sex then she needs to understand she could have a child she needs to understand she cant go and not even give it a chance to live. |
| MyChemGreenDay91 Killjoy  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 5 | I am 100% against abortion! It`s murder! Even though you got raped doesn`t mean that you can kill your baby... you can give birth and then give it to adoption if you don`t want it... As simple as that... |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: And I'm sure she does understand that. She is pretty stupid for ignoring that. But that doesn't mean we should force her to have a baby. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | you shouldnt have to force a women to keep a baby she should want to be a good mother and prove to herself that she can raise a child from her own mistake |
| eepshyes Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 7323 | bright lights x x: So, you being 13, if you got pregnant, you're saying you wouldn't have an abortion? And yes, she should want to. But that doesn't mean she will. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | i would never get pregnant at 13 and unless i was raped i would never get an abortion |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^Yeah, but not everyone has the same standards as you. And what about a sixteen or seventeen year old? They might be in a committed relationship for several years, decide to have sex, and get pregnant. Should they be forced to keep an unwanted child when it totally ruins their futures? What about someone in their twenties? They're certainly old enough to be having sex, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're financially and / or emotionally ready to raise a child. Yes, everyone who gets pregnant should want to and be able to keep their child, but that's far too idealistic a rule to apply to the real world. It just doesn't work that way and no one should be forced to have a baby just because it should. Also, MyChemGreenDay91, adoption isn't "as simple as that". Forget about what the mother has to go through - the emotional and bodily havoc of carrying a child to term, most likely losing their job because their pregnancy interferes with their life too much, having to explain to everyone they know why they're pregnant when they didn't plan on it and why there's no baby after they give birth, having to say good-bye to a fully developed child that came out of their body rather than an unconscious embryo that didn't know the difference anyway - a child put of for adoption might not necessarily find a good home; it could end up in an orphanage or foster care, in miserable conditions and abused. Why make another human life go through that at the cost of nine months of a woman's life and a lifetime of wondering whatever happened to her child when she could abort it when it was an embryo, wasn't really alive, and didn't know the difference or care? |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | Fezzik: then they should be in a standerd relationship and also financially ready just in case a baby does happen to come into their lives. or if their not then they need to be raised by a willing mother of the women that had sex untill she can properly raise the child as it should be raised. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^Yeah. Again, that's just too idealistic. People are going to have sex, even when they're not ready to have a child. It's part of a healthy adult relationship and, well, obviously it must be pretty enjoyable. There's only so many days a year a woman is ovulating, people simply aren't going to stop having sex just in case thier birth control fails on one of those days. Abortions have to be available to them, just in case. Also, are you suggesting that the grandmother take the child if the mother isn't ready to take care of a baby yet? I don't mean to be rude, but that sounds just terrible. My mother would probably take care of my hypothetical baby for me if I needed her to, and I know she'd love him / her no matter what, but right now she's looking forwards to retiring with my dad, travelling a bit, and generally enjoying her life. Not changing nappies again and spending all my parents' hard-earned money on raising a kid that isn't even theirs. I'd much rather abort an embryo than force my parents to do that. |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | ^Yeah, I'm totally with Fezzik on this one, as anyone who's been around for the last 15 or so pages would know. And though Fezzik has pretty much summed it up perfectly, here's my take on it (I was collecting quotes while you were posting that last one, lol beat me to the punch again): bright lights x x:Sometimes being 'responsible' is NOT all about 'stepping up and facing the music'. In this scenario, it is about making an informed decision as to what is best for the woman and the embryo - can she afford to feed, clothe and raise a child? If not, then it would be better off aborted before it knows what poverty or neglect is. Is the woman mentally stable and in the right frame of mind to be caring for a dependent child? If, for instance, she's got depression or schizophrenia, or something like a drug or alcohol dependency, then no way should she have a child in her care. And in the case of the mother having a drug or alcohol dependency, the child might be disabled, deformed, mentally retarded - the chances of that happening are so high that it's probably in everybody's best interests to just abort the fetus. What about the woman's circumstances? Perhaps she is poor, and again can't afford to raise a child. Perhaps her partner is abusive, and that's not a suitable environment for a child to be raised in. Like I said, sometimes 'being responsible' is more about making a smart decision that would have a better outcome for all, than making a 'moral' decision that puts people at risk. bright lights x x:For one, yeah, a fetus could have a chance at life - or, it could be one of the one in four pregnancies that ends in miscarriage; or it could develop into a deformed, retarded or disabled baby that needs more care than the mother can give to it. And abortion is by no means a 'careless' decision - counselling is mandatory before the operation, and no way would any woman take lightly the thought of terminating a pregnancy. It's a serious matter, and narrow-minded, uninformed people who think such decisions are made frivolously without knowing an individual's circumstances should have absolutely NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to force their opinions on women who have thought long and hard about what they want to do. And, to be honest, I think saying 'Abortion is so wrong, unless you've been raped, then it's totally okay' is the height of being hypocritical. You're either for or against, there can be no exceptions or excuses. If a woman has been raped and falls pregnant, to me that is exactly the same as a woman whose birth control has failed, or the woman in a stable relationship who has accidentally fallen pregnant - if one excuse isn't 'valid' as far as you're concerned, then what makes any other excuse valid? Not that I'm imlying that women who are raped 'asked for it' or had a choice in the matter, I'm just saying that if one excuse isn't good enough, then all women who accidentally become pregnant should be forced into keeping a child - for instance, if they were raped or if carrying a child could prove fatal to them. So what? If abortion is so wrong, then you HAVE to have the child regardless of the circumstances, right? That's essentially what you're saying, and if you're not, then you're contradicting yourself. bright lights x x:I'm in a stable relationship - I'm married. That, however, does not mean I want to spend the rest of my childbearing years breeding like a rabbit. Being married also does not mean my husband and I can afford to support lots of children. Hell, we're about to have our first and we're almost flat broke - thank God we've got lots of friends and family who have given us heaps of baby stuff, because there's no way we could have bought it all ourselves. We're planning on having another baby in a few years' time as long as we can afford it, but if I fall pregnant after that, I don't care, I'm not keeping it. We couldn't afford it, and I don't want to have to explain to my family (not to mention other children) why I didn't bring a baby home with me when I got back from the hospital - and don't get me started on the foster care and adoption system. I'd never be able to live with carryinga child for nine months, giving birth, then just handing it over to someone and hoping and praying that it goes to a good home. I'd kill myself over it for the rest of my life, wondering where they are, how they're coping, if they're loved, etc. I'd rather terminate a clump a cells that has no feelings or thoughts and knows no better. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | OK Fezzik, lets think for a minute. a woman shouldn't be forced to have a baby she doesn't want, but adoption is there for a reason. do you have any IDEA HOW MUCH PEOPLE WANT BABIES BUT CANT HAVE THEM! the baby should have the right to be born, and unfertile parents have the right to have a child. abortion is really just throwing a baby away that can have a good family, if giving to parents who want to have a child. being pregnant is very hard on the body for 9 months but she should be happy that all she went through is going to make two people happy. |
| bright lights x x Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 715 | yes i understand where your coming from. i personally would never give any child up to adoption either. its just my opinion no ones gonna change it. and i wont ever have to worry about it because i choose not have sex untill i am engaged or married yeah i know 13 but iv made that decison and plan on keeping it i just dont like the idea of abortion. congrats by the way. |
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