Abortions.
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| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | i think that you're just going through the stages of CYA right now... better known as Cover Your @$!... admit it... it just doesn't logically add up... or do the civilized thing and agree to disagree... |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | Fezzik: |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | besides... aren't we all still parasites in one way or another? think about it before you shoot it down... really think about it... so, Fezzik, if you're a parasite... does that mean that you're not human... b/c by your BS logic it does... so, i guess that you're a zombie too!!! that explains the lack of rationality... sorry, again that was rude... |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^I know you're super-sensitive about that, but it depends on the mother to survive and doesn't think. That sounds just a wee bit parasitic to me. And I'm not covering anything, it's really quite logical. You don't have a brain, you're not human. Killing something that isn't human isn't murder. Embryos don't have anything that qualifies as brains, so they're not human, and killing them isn't murder. Edit: And being a parasite means you don't give anything back to whoever you're living off. So what you're suggesting, gR4l, is that I'm useless, which really hurts my feelings. *sob* Anyway, I have a brain. So I'm human. And you've got to understand perspective, because by my view, you're the one lacking rationality, putting something with no brain above the rights of a fully-developed woman. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | ^ it may sound like a parasite but its not! saying that is like saying all humans are considered paraistes because, lets face it, we get in the way. you can believe what you want but dont EVER say a embryo is considered a parasite again! ![]() |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^Of course it's not, it's just comparable to one. Actually by the Merriam-Webster definition ("something that resembles a biological parasite in dependence on something else for existence or support without making a useful or adequate return" ) it is, but anyway...It's not saying all humans are parasites, because humans can function independently. |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | then again, Fezzik, people believe what they want to believe... can you honestly say that you wholly and objectively researched and debated both sides of the argument? until you have... i have nothing more to say to you... and by the way... until you start trying to see things more clearly.... you are useless... and i won't apologize for that one... |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^No, I can't, but can you? I took a year of AP Biology, so I know a little bit about development, and I'm just using simple logic to determine that something without a brain isn't a person. What am I not seeing clearly? I must be useless, because I really don't get that bit. What am I meant to see? |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | oh forget it |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | Fine, I will. |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | Fezzik, i've done reasearch in hospitals... looked through microscopes, and seen aborted fetuses in person... i've googled it and conducted my own studies (with the help of my pregnant cousin). so, yeah, i've done my reasearch... and just for the record... last time someone called a baby a parasite in front of me, i punched them, and got thrown out of class... oh, that person happened to be the teacher... so, that gives you my sentiment on that topic... you're meant to see all sides of the argument... you can't logically argue something until you know all you can about it... duh. (God, that sounded juvenile... you pro-choice people lower my intelligence...) |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | I do see the other side of the argument. No one likes killing something that might one day be a baby. Abortions can and often do have negative repercussions on a woman's mental health. I know these things, I just also know that for quite a few woman, their circumstances are such that abortion is their best option, and they need to make that decision on their own, and have the option of a safe, legal abortion available do them. |
| Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416 | Fezzik: and I've explained hundreds of times before that if it because of medical, mental, or financial reasons it fine. i don't like women getting abortions because they don't want to raise a kid! |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | Girl next door: i won't even go that far... you learn when you're what 12 (at the latest) how babies are made... if you get pregnant at an "inopportune" moment, that's your own damn fault... take into consideration that i'm not referring to cases of rape or whatnot right here... (i still don't approve in those cases) but, if you're old enough choose, for yourself, to make a baby, you're old enough to deal with it. it's just as simple as that... it's time that people took responsibility for their actions, and stopped blaming them on other people... serioulsy, grow up... |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | genresR4losers:What about someone in a position similar to mine, for example? I'm 21, married, and have a daughter who will be four weeks old on Friday. Now, everyone's happy for married couples to enjoy sex as part of a healthy relationship, but what happens if my birth control fails? I'm 'old enough to choose' to have sex, screw it, I'm an adult and have every right in the world to enjoy sex with my husband, but the fact is, if I fell pregnant at this point in time (or anytime soon, like in the next 18 months, maybe more), it would definitely be an 'inopportune' time, and I would definitely consider getting an abortion. Why? Well, for starters, my husband and I aren't rich. We can afford to have one child and keep food on the table, but if we were to have another one, we'd end up pretty much destitute. Both of us are against the idea of adopting a child out, because we know what the foster care and orphanage systems are like, and besides that, no way in hell could I live with the day to day knowledge that a child I carried and gave birth to is out there somewhere, not knowing if they're okay, if they're being treated well, if they're happy, etc. I'd much rather abort a teeny clump of unthinking, unfeeling, unconscious cells and be able to continue living in relative comfort, and rest assured in the knowledge that the aborted embryo never knew any better, than go through with having another baby and end up having to see my beautiful daughter go without basic things as well as luxuries because, as we all know (but don't understand until we have children ourselves), babies are very expensive things - and they deserve the best in life. So I would have no qualms about terminating a pregnancy if my birth control failed, because if I was forced to have another child so soon, neither child would have a very good life. I would take full responsibility for such an event occurring - how can you blame anybody else for a condom breaking or a hormone injection not doing the job it's designed to do? I'm well aware that no birth control is 100%, but that isn't going to stop me having sex with my husband for fear of ending up at the abortion clinic. It's my body, my decision to have sex, my decision to have an abortion if I need one - nobody else's, and that's why I strongly believe that abortions need to remain legal. Saying that I would consider abortion as a first option does not make me hate babies, or a bad mother, or unfeeling towards my child. It means that terminating a pregnancy would be the right choice for my family if such a situation arose, just as abortion is the right choice for many women. Nobody but those women should be able to dictate what is right for them, especially not people who a) have religious beliefs making them believe abortion is wrong/life begins at conception, b) do not have children of their own (and I don't care about your newborn cousins or nieces/nephews etc - it's a completely different thing to having a baby yourself, and c) haven't had that much life experience (by which I mean those who are, for example, 14 years old, have never had a boyfriend or engaged in sexual intercourse, have never lived out of home and paid their own bills, have never been sexually assaulted, have never been out there and seen what life is really like, as opposed to just sitting around the dinner table listening to their parents' narrow-minded drivel, or their teachers'/peers' ill-informed, misguided, black-and-white opinions on such topics). |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^Exactly. Motherhood shouldn't be a punishment for having sex. That's absolutely barbaric. Sex is not bad, it's not something to be ashamed of. It's part of any healthy relationship, but that doesn't mean everyone's ready to have a child each time they have sex. |
| racheltangerine Killjoy Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 18 | I was against it for a long time but something happened to somebody in my family, and they had to get an abortion. It was someone very close to me (not me), and... I just, saw firsthand what this person had to go through. Anyone is lucky to have life, but this is different. There is so much that goes into deciding on having a child, and if it's an accident or a rape? I am pro-choice. |
| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | OK...I left INO for like 1 day and come back to find 3 pages added on. Goodness. I cant really respond to all that has been said, so Ill just go with the people I must say I trust on this topic. Girl Next Door and genresR4losers. Have a nice day |
| genresR4losers Motor Baby Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 817 | thanks NotOkay22!!! nice to know that there are more than 2 people in this forum that are capable of thinking clearly!!! |
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