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the original JULES Demolition Lover Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 19598	September 20th, 2007 at 12:05pm NotOkay22: Getting your period really isn't that big a deal. I know it freaks a lot of girls out, but come on, grow up and get over it. Every girl will grow through it, that's just life. If she gets raped, then that's life too. Its not pretty, its not nice, its called life. Things happen. Bad things. But that doesn't mean that I want to give the power of deciding between life and death to a 12 year old girl and her scared parents. That's just stupid. I would like to point out a few things: Getting your period is a sign of growing up. Hence, it freaks people out. Getting raped should not be part of life. It is not part of life. Not everyone experiences it - thankfully. No one - not one woman, or man - should have to ever experience the humilation, trauma and degrading emotions that rape includes. Please think more carefully before posting a comment like that. It could affect and offend many users on this board, who quite frankly do not deserve that. You are thinking completely of the mother's benefit. And in many cases, abortion happens for the child's benefit. If a young woman got raped, and did not choose to abort the child for whatever reason, not only will she suffer mental and emotional trauma in the following years, but the child will too. Imagine finding out you are the result of a rape incident. How would you feel? Honestly, I would feel worthless. I would feel as though I did not have a right to live. I would feel as though my mother is better off without me. I would feel as though I am the cause of my mother's pain and hurt. Would you say those emotions and feelings are unacceptable? I wouldn't. Also, there's a higher chance of the relationship between mother and child being completely unacceptable. The mother might be harmful towards her child, aggressive, and completely not maternal. Imagine the impact on the child then. If the relationship happens to be aggressive and what not, and the child is suffering because of the rape incident, I would honestly say that having an abortion would've been worth it. So how is it stupid to give the power to the person who had to endure the suffering? Because that's how society works these days.
Captain Jack Wonka. Shotgun Sinner Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 7307	September 20th, 2007 at 12:21pm Simple and Clean: ^ So, if you found out you were 2 weeks pregnant today, you'd seriously carry the baby to term, birth it and keep it / give it away, and not even consider abortion? (Just pretend it was legal for a moment) Well I admit that being against abortion has, sort of, affected our community badly. Women who get pregnant at an early age would either kill the baby without anyone knowing and taking the risk of getting imprisoned because of that OR raise the child. Majority chooses the latter. I can say that most of the early pregnancy in our place are caused by simply the careless-ness of the parents / esp the mother. But that's in OUR place, and I believe it could... well it would be different from your case. And I'm from the Philippines, a Christian / Roman Catholic country, I think you can now see why abortion is still considered illegal in my place. :]
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	September 20th, 2007 at 04:51pm miss sin.: NotOkay22: Getting your period really isn't that big a deal. I know it freaks a lot of girls out, but come on, grow up and get over it. Every girl will grow through it, that's just life. If she gets raped, then that's life too. Its not pretty, its not nice, its called life. Things happen. Bad things. But that doesn't mean that I want to give the power of deciding between life and death to a 12 year old girl and her scared parents. That's just stupid. I would like to point out a few things: Getting your period is a sign of growing up. Hence, it freaks people out. Getting raped should not be part of life. It is not part of life. Not everyone experiences it - thankfully. No one - not one woman, or man - should have to ever experience the humilation, trauma and degrading emotions that rape includes. Please think more carefully before posting a comment like that. It could affect and offend many users on this board, who quite frankly do not deserve that. You are thinking completely of the mother's benefit. And in many cases, abortion happens for the child's benefit. If a young woman got raped, and did not choose to abort the child for whatever reason, not only will she suffer mental and emotional trauma in the following years, but the child will too. Imagine finding out you are the result of a rape incident. How would you feel? Honestly, I would feel worthless. I would feel as though I did not have a right to live. I would feel as though my mother is better off without me. I would feel as though I am the cause of my mother's pain and hurt. Would you say those emotions and feelings are unacceptable? I wouldn't. Also, there's a higher chance of the relationship between mother and child being completely unacceptable. The mother might be harmful towards her child, aggressive, and completely not maternal. Imagine the impact on the child then. If the relationship happens to be aggressive and what not, and the child is suffering because of the rape incident, I would honestly say that having an abortion would've been worth it. So how is it stupid to give the power to the person who had to endure the suffering? Because that's how society works these days. Rape is a part of life if it happens to you. Its shouldn't be, It isn't fair, It isn't right, but that's the way it is. If you get raped, then you got raped. That is now a part of your life. I don't care how much you think that killing an embryo will better the embryos life, because I absolutely don't agree. I also think its stupid for a mother make it look like her child is the cause of her pain. And if she does raise the child after a rape if she makes her child feel that in any way then she is full of shit. Rape caused her pain, not the life of a child. It doesn't matter how much suffering a person endured, I'm not gonna let people just hand over the power of life and death to young scared girls. That is idiotic. I don't see any excuse for abortion. Not even one. Everything happens for reason, even rape. Embrace whats given to you and whats taken away from you, and live your life.
ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657	September 21st, 2007 at 01:56pm ^well imagine you were raped. would you be thinking 'well hey! it doesn't matt becuase it just a part of life! no you would be under emotional distress. You would have to live a with a baby that was haunted by what created it. Just think about the terror and horrifying experience before you post something like that.
Neesa Fabulous Killjoy Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 142	September 21st, 2007 at 07:13pm i am all for abortions. there are many circumstances in which abortion is the best option. my sister had an abortion four months ago. her baby had spina bifida and even if she went full term he had a very small chance of living and if he did he would have been confined to a wheelchair and would be brain dead. do you really want to bring a baby into this world if they are not going to have any sort of quality of life? it isn't fair on the child. may i emphasize the fact that my sister and her husband WANTED this baby and have gone through a lot of pain and suffering due to the loss. she has not gone crazy though. she has been the strongest out of all of the family and is trying to move on. abortion is not a bad thing. but at the end of the day it is your body and you must do what you want with it. you just have to remember that everyone has their own opinions. one thing i will say is that if the baby is deformed and may not live then i think the best option is abortion. that is my opinion and others may think differently and i am fine with that.
Lifeisbutadream1993 Killjoy Age: - Gender: - Posts: 36	September 21st, 2007 at 09:10pm I against abortions unless a child had been raped and got pregnant. Other then that the woman could have the child and put it up for adoption. There's many women that can't have children and want to adopt.
ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657	September 22nd, 2007 at 01:47am i think if your under 15 then you should always get an aboration, besides its only teenagers that get them anyway. and most of them african americans who live in ghettos, if it isn't because of age, Financial, Emotional, health reasons then you should probably have it then give it up for adoption.
Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725	September 22nd, 2007 at 03:03am Lifeisbutadream1993: There's many women that can't have children and want to adopt. If that were the case, orphanages would be empty. Couples in Western countries (the US, Australia etc) are tending to adopt from third world countries (look at Angelina Jolie, I'm blaming her for this fad), so a lot of the kids in orphanages where we live stay there until they are old enough to get thrown out on their own. Also, many women want to adopt, but can't because of financial or other limitations (eg gay couples wanting to adopt but being prohibited by law, etc). So I'd rather terminate an unwanted pregnancy than have a child stuck in an orphanage or foster home forever. CemeteryDrive123: i think if your under 15 then you should always get an aboration, besides its only teenagers that get them anyway. and most of them african americans who live in ghettos, if it isn't because of age, Financial, Emotional, health reasons then you should probably have it then give it up for adoption. Umm, I don't even know if I should start with you. I'd be liable to end up getting reprimanded for making a 'personal' attack. Your statement was blatantly uneducated, misinformed, narrow-minded and bordering on bigoted. Get your facts straight. That is all.
Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416	September 22nd, 2007 at 03:40am Cigarettes And Suicide: CemeteryDrive123: i think if your under 15 then you should always get an aboration, besides its only teenagers that get them anyway. and most of them african americans who live in ghettos, if it isn't because of age, Financial, Emotional, health reasons then you should probably have it then give it up for adoption. Umm, I don't even know if I should start with you. I'd be liable to end up getting reprimanded for making a 'personal' attack. Your statement was blatantly uneducated, misinformed, narrow-minded and bordering on bigoted. Get your facts straight. yeah, i know you already know this but, i have to tell you and i'll put it in bold:knock it off, try not to kill anyone here. i've already stated my opinion, so bye
Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 1725	September 22nd, 2007 at 03:57am ^ My post was not a personal attack or an insult. I wish you would stop thinking that calling someone's opinions or statements ridiculous is akin to resorting to such childish tactics as calling the posters themselves ridiculous. I'm not trying to offend anybody, or get aggressive. I'm simply saying that the person should go do some research before posting such stupid things.
ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657	September 22nd, 2007 at 04:11am Girl next door: Cigarettes And Suicide: CemeteryDrive123: i think if your under 15 then you should always get an abortion, besides its only teenagers that get them anyway. and most of them African Americans who live in ghettos, if it isn't because of age, Financial, Emotional, health reasons then you should probably have it then give it up for adoption. Umm, I don't even know if I should start with you. I'd be liable to end up getting reprimanded for making a 'personal' attack. Your statement was blatantly uneducated, misinformed, narrow-minded and bordering on bigoted. Get your facts straight. yeah, i know you already know this but, i have to tell you and I'll put it in bold:knock it off, try not to kill anyone here. I've already stated my opinion, so bye don't worry, i am not affected by your obvious attempt to make me feel stupid i see what pregnancy does to teenagers, even IF they at the end they give it away fro abortion. By the end of a month, many are suicidal. I didn't get this from an article or statistics, i got this from watching! my mothers a Doctor and MOST, of the young women who come in already in labor are mostly African American. I'm not trying to be racist. when i sit in the lobby i can HEAR them screaming in pain as they come in. yea. cause, that's what teen hood is all about!
Carrie White Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 416	September 22nd, 2007 at 04:25am Cigarettes And Suicide: ^ My post was not a personal attack or an insult. I wish you would stop thinking that calling someone's opinions or statements ridiculous is akin to resorting to such childish tactics as calling the posters themselves ridiculous. I'm not trying to offend anybody, or get aggressive. I'm simply saying that the person should go do some research before posting such stupid things. for one, i never said you were ridiculous or that it was agressive. it wasnt just for you either, this threads on thin ice, everyone has been breaking the rules, or am i the only one that actually read them? i wasnt being childish, i was pointing something out: you did make that insulting. it doesnt matter the comment, try to keep it civil. for two, a mod would've done the same thing and the other comments have been hostile. it wasnt a personal warning to you, but to everyone.
lolis12007 Really Not Okay Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 655	September 22nd, 2007 at 04:43am it depends but mostly im prolife, because the mother is the one making the mistake of having sex and if she was able to have sex she is able to accept the consequences. and i said it depends on the situation because what if you have sex and a doctor or someone did'nt tell you that you couldn't have kids no more. and you could die if you got pregnant or could die during giving birth. at that situation i would do abortion with the pain in my heart because you wouldn't leave your other children alone without a mother.
Cloud Strife. Banned Age: 26 Gender: Female Posts: 1713	September 22nd, 2007 at 10:01am I disagree with abortion entirely. When a woman can't afford to raise the child, she can always put the child up for adoption. Abortion is like stealing the right to live from a child, whereas when you go for adoption, you'll be ensured that a child doesn't die in the way of abortion, and chances of the child going to a good, hardworking and kind family is really big. Say no to abortion.
Simple and Clean Salute You in Your Grave Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 2616	September 22nd, 2007 at 10:55am ^It's not as simple as that though. having a child inside you for 9 months, birthing, it , then giving it away isn't as simple as abc. And, like cigerettes and suicide said, if so many people wanted these children, there wouldn't be any children in childrens homes.
ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657	September 22nd, 2007 at 02:05pm many families cant even afford to have a pregnant women their home.. they have to eat alot more then normally and i a problem arises, and it probably will if she is young, then they just can't afford medical help.
Girl Anachronism Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 509	September 22nd, 2007 at 05:57pm Quote It's always the quiet ones, as they say. Sometimes you can never be sure what's going on behind closed doors. I just thought I should point out that by no means do I believe abortion is the right choice for every woman who unexpectedly or unintentionally finds herself pregnant - as we've covered, there are other options, and they're there for a reason. Some people who didn't intend on having children decide to go through with it and become great mothers, others manage to overcome the obstacles that the foster and adoption systems present and everything works out fine. But for other women, abortion is the right choice for them, and that's why it should remain legal - so that people can make their own decisions and have all the options available to them. I'm not advocating abortion, but I do see it as a necessary 'evil' (if you want to look at it as that, I prefer to see it as simply one more option that should be open to pregnant women), and that's why I support a woman's right to make a decision based on her individual circumstances, not say that 'only rape victims' or whatever should be able to terminate a pregnancy. I didn't mean it to sound like 'only rape victims' can get abortions, I was using it as an example. But ya, I can agree with that. It should stay legal. It's only an option for finacial, health, rape, and/or what ever really bad thing that needs to be added here that I am to tired to think of at this moment, like if you and your baby are going to die if you were to go along with the pregnacy.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	September 23rd, 2007 at 01:15am CemeteryDrive123: ^well imagine you were raped. would you be thinking 'well hey! it doesn't matt becuase it just a part of life! no you would be under emotional distress. You would have to live a with a baby that was haunted by what created it. Just think about the terror and horrifying experience before you post something like that. I never said that being raped doesnt matter, because it does, I said that you have to learn to movie on with your life.
ChildVision Really Not Okay Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 657	September 23rd, 2007 at 01:27am um excuse me, if i remember correctly you said it WAS a part of life. its not! its something that should never happen! if if it happens to anyone! then the baby of course will me a constant reminder of your suffering. why dont you try being a child whose was concieved by rape!
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	September 23rd, 2007 at 01:29am CemeteryDrive123: um excuse me, if i remember correctly you said it WAS a part of life. its not! its something that should never happen! if if it happens to anyone! then the baby of course will me a constant reminder of your suffering. why dont you try being a child whose was concieved by rape! I said that if it happens to you then it becomes a part of your life. there is nothing that can be done about that. It shouldnt have to be a part of anyones life, but if it happens, then it is. You cant dwell on the bad things that happen to you, rape included. Im not saying its easy to get over, but you should at least try.

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