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Life Is But A Dream_ Killjoy Age: - Gender: Male Posts: 30	July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38am My family is Roman-Catholic, yet my Dad's side is too religious.(My mom's side is Catholic also, yet more faithful than religious) I'm undecided, and I'll probably stay that way until I'm older. I don't believe in the Catholic teachings, such as being 'Gay' is wrong and such. My dad's side stereotypes different religions a lot. It sickens me, so I ignore that as much as I can. I mean, I was talking with my Dad about early metal, and how it's kinda' weird that it's different than metal now,(or something like that). He started talking about how metal was so called 'Dark', and 'Evil'. Then I god almost uncontrollably mad at him. I don't believe any religion is right completely, but I believe in faith, and Heaven and Hell, and such.
DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1067	July 3rd, 2007 at 12:11pm Hell is fake. The idea of demons and the devil were created LONG before Christianity, back in old tribal religions and such, and eventually got adapted into Christianity (Jews don't believe in Hell, and Christianity came from Judeism <--Sp?) It was used to control the masses when the Church was so powerful
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 4th, 2007 at 07:08pm LoversHeartDisease: Hell is fake. The idea of demons and the devil were created LONG before Christianity, back in old tribal religions and such, and eventually got adapted into Christianity (Jews don't believe in Hell, and Christianity came from Judeism <--Sp?) It was used to control the masses when the Church was so powerful Not all Jews do not believe in Hell. Acutally, Almost every Jewish person I know believes in Hell. You must remember that there are many forms of Judeism. Just because Hell's idea came before Christianity doesnt proove that it doesnt exist. That's like saying that bread came before butter so bread and butter must not exist....or something like that.
Rhys Webb Awake and Unafraid Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 12341	July 4th, 2007 at 10:47pm NotOkay22: Well there is historical proof that Jesus existed. There is no proof that he was God, but it is fact that Jesus claimed to be God. And yes Atheism is a religion, its basically when you just believe in the scientifical(sp?) view of the world. isn't that scientology? if so then that is completely different then atheism. an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in god, and doesn't believe in anything after death. that is one of the main keys of atheism, and something that you have to accept in order to even consider yourself one -- that nothing exists after death.
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 4th, 2007 at 10:59pm Frank Bellamy.: NotOkay22: Well there is historical proof that Jesus existed. There is no proof that he was God, but it is fact that Jesus claimed to be God. And yes Atheism is a religion, its basically when you just believe in the scientifical(sp?) view of the world. isn't that scientology? if so then that is completely different then atheism. an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in god, and doesn't believe in anything after death. that is one of the main keys of atheism, and something that you have to accept in order to even consider yourself one -- that nothing exists after death. What? Scientology has nothing to do with science - it revolves around science fiction. What she was trying to say, is that Atheism is not the absence of faith, it's the belief of reality and what can be proven, like the scientific point of view.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 81 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	July 5th, 2007 at 01:53am Okay, this is just personal opinions : With religion Im a bit uncertain, because say there are 2 men. one is Christian but he doesnt really go out of his way to do good things like donating. The other on the other hand is not christian but sponsers 5 kids, donates to charity and is a volunteer. Does the second man go to hell just cos he doesnt believe in god? And doesnt God love everyone and everything? Then why cant he accept us for who we are? Even if your gay etc? And why does he say live by my rules or go to hell? Its just too contradictive for me.....
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 5th, 2007 at 11:34am Lost Love.: Okay, this is just personal opinions : With religion Im a bit uncertain, because say there are 2 men. one is Christian but he doesnt really go out of his way to do good things like donating. The other on the other hand is not christian but sponsers 5 kids, donates to charity and is a volunteer. Does the second man go to hell just cos he doesnt believe in god? And doesnt God love everyone and everything? Then why cant he accept us for who we are? Even if your gay etc? And why does he say live by my rules or go to hell? Its just too contradictive for me..... Yep, you're right. If you don't accept Jesus Christ into your heart, you go to hell. :/
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 5th, 2007 at 11:53am Lost Love.: Okay, this is just personal opinions : With religion Im a bit uncertain, because say there are 2 men. one is Christian but he doesnt really go out of his way to do good things like donating. The other on the other hand is not christian but sponsers 5 kids, donates to charity and is a volunteer. Does the second man go to hell just cos he doesnt believe in god? And doesnt God love everyone and everything? Then why cant he accept us for who we are? Even if your gay etc? And why does he say live by my rules or go to hell? Its just too contradictive for me..... Well in my religion, yes, the second man would go to hell, becuase he is not a christian. Most religions as you might know are about more then just doing good deeds, you have to commit yourself to the teachings and all that. That is how most monotheistic relgions go, but not all of them. I would suggest talking to an adult you know who you think can help you, or if you know a pastor of priest or whatever, maybe try talking to them. Those are all very complicated questions with complicated answers, but then again, no one ever said religion was simple. and in my religion, if the guy who was christian was a true christian, and the other guy wasnt a christian, then the christian guy would go to heaven, and the non-christian would go to hell. But thats just how my religion goes.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 5th, 2007 at 11:55am wth? my post isnt showing up in that last one. dang.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 5th, 2007 at 11:57am Well, Ill answer ur question again. In my religion (Protestant-Christian), yes, the second guy would go to hell, becuase even though he was a good guy, he didnt accept Jesus as his savior, which is the key to getting into heaven. Thats basically how my religion goes.
dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290	July 5th, 2007 at 01:22pm The funny thing about religion is that most of the people that were raised a certain religion but grew away from it and became atheist were born catholic. There must be something about catholisism that bothers people.
dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290	July 5th, 2007 at 01:29pm NotOkay22: Well, Ill answer ur question again. In my religion (Protestant-Christian), yes, the second guy would go to hell, becuase even though he was a good guy, he didnt accept Jesus as his savior, which is the key to getting into heaven. Thats basically how my religion goes. Well, the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing kinda gets to me. He had all of these powers, right? But, there is no proof at all that he was a good person. Many people believe that archiologists have found proof that Jesus existed, but still no proof that he was, infact, a good person. So the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing can be wrong. And if he killed somebody, it wouldn't be fair that he got into heaven but the second man, the good man, would go to hell for simply not believing.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 5th, 2007 at 06:33pm Dance on fire.: NotOkay22: Well, Ill answer ur question again. In my religion (Protestant-Christian), yes, the second guy would go to hell, becuase even though he was a good guy, he didnt accept Jesus as his savior, which is the key to getting into heaven. Thats basically how my religion goes. Well, the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing kinda gets to me. He had all of these powers, right? But, there is no proof at all that he was a good person. Many people believe that archiologists have found proof that Jesus existed, but still no proof that he was, infact, a good person. So the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing can be wrong. And if he killed somebody, it wouldn't be fair that he got into heaven but the second man, the good man, would go to hell for simply not believing. Well if the first man was truly sorry about the murder and asked for God's forgiveness. But the answer to your question is just from my religious viewpoint. If your unhappy with the answer then you could ask someone from a different or more liberal religion.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 5th, 2007 at 06:37pm Dance on fire.: NotOkay22: Well, Ill answer ur question again. In my religion (Protestant-Christian), yes, the second guy would go to hell, becuase even though he was a good guy, he didnt accept Jesus as his savior, which is the key to getting into heaven. Thats basically how my religion goes. Well, the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing kinda gets to me. He had all of these powers, right? But, there is no proof at all that he was a good person. Many people believe that archiologists have found proof that Jesus existed, but still no proof that he was, infact, a good person. So the whole 'Jesus is our saviour' thing can be wrong. And if he killed somebody, it wouldn't be fair that he got into heaven but the second man, the good man, would go to hell for simply not believing. And about the Jesus thing: Jesus was followed around a lot, and many people recorded what he said and did. Jesus was recorded by witnesses to have been kind to others, generous, caring, etc. He went around preaching love, honesty and faith. He was also recorded by multiple people to have claimed to be God. Now that baffled people. Archiologists came up with only one logical solution to Jesus claiming to be God. Jesus was either lying, crazy, or he was telling the truth. It's up to individuals to decide what they believe he was. I personally think that Jesus was telling the truth.
MADIS0N. Motor Baby Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 981	July 5th, 2007 at 06:46pm Quote With religion Im a bit uncertain, because say there are 2 men. one is Christian but he doesnt really go out of his way to do good things like donating. The other on the other hand is not christian but sponsers 5 kids, donates to charity and is a volunteer. Does the second man go to hell just cos he doesnt believe in god? Well, is the second man aetheist, Jewish, Muslim...? What I really think is that you get what you believe. You don't believe in anything after death, then there's nothing after your death. And the Jews are the chosen people, so if a Jew is a good person, they'll go to heaven. Quote And doesnt God love everyone and everything? Then why cant he accept us for who we are? Even if your gay etc? And why does he say live by my rules or go to hell? Its just too contradictive for me..... God does love everyone and everything. Even if you're gay. The Holy Trinity never said it was wrong--whomever wrote the book of Genesis (it is said to be Moses) said it was wrong. Yeah, he says "live by my rules", but he also says, "And in return, I give you eternal life in Heaven."
Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2748	July 5th, 2007 at 07:26pm Dance on fire.: The funny thing about religion is that most of the people that were raised a certain religion but grew away from it and became atheist were born catholic. There must be something about catholisism that bothers people. The Catholic Church is massive. People forget that it's helping people in a lot of developing countries who just don't have the education to translate its basic religious teachings into their lives, so the Church feels it needs to create specific social guidelines (i.e. being against homosexuality, abortion, divorce, etc.) A lot of people raised Catholic in developed nations seem to think you have to follow those rules to practice the faith. I certainly don't. I go to church every Sunday, went to religious education classes, was confirmed, the whole deal. But by the Church's rules I'm some kind of spawn of Satan, what with my evil beliefs in gay rights, abortion, birth control, divorce, and reading Harry Potter. I like the Catholic faith (the traditional services and such), and I like what it teaches about being kind and peaceful and respecting people but I totally ignore it on everything else. I think people have to reconcile their faith on their own. If that faith doesn't include attending services, that's fine, they don't have to. It doesn't matter how people worship God if they're worshiping Him at all. If they want a place to be at peace and feel close to God for an hour or so a week, then it doesn't really matter what church or temple they go to - it's all the same, really. /twocents
Rhys Webb Awake and Unafraid Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 12341	July 5th, 2007 at 11:10pm Dance on fire.: The funny thing about religion is that most of the people that were raised a certain religion but grew away from it and became atheist were born catholic. There must be something about catholisism that bothers people. i was born catholic, don't follow it, and i am not an atheist. i just don't agree with the church's teachings. i have seen a lot this past year that makes me wonder if there even is a god out there. personally i just believe we will all go to hell -- everyone has sinned, and i don't believe that one person is good enough to be a saint. saints have sinned in their lives.
x.fallout vapors.x Killjoy Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 8	July 5th, 2007 at 11:40pm I am an atheist. Science has proven so much, and I believe the existence of God was just coined long ago when there was no other explanation for the wonders of the universe. Now, I really hope people don't take offense to this, because I don't mean it at all offensively, just as an observation- but I think people become devoutly religious because they need some reasurrance that their life has some purpose. Sometimes I really do wish that I had sufficient proof in the existence of God, because I wish that at times I could just put my faith in a higher power's hands rather than try to find a way myself. I wish I had a set of values laid out for me that I could live my life by, because it's hard to know what the right decision is. I wish I had someone to pray to and and I wish I lived with the faith that someone out there was looking after me. I believe everyone thinks and feels this way, and I believe these feelings are what convinced people three thousand years ago that there was a higher power and what still convince people today. However, despite this, I CAN'T believe in a God, because I simply don't see any PROOF around me. The Big Bang explains the creation of the universe; science has explanations for almost everything. To me, "God" is just another scientific theory- but one that is founded on almost no basis.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 81 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	July 6th, 2007 at 03:36am NotOkay22: Well, Ill answer ur question again. In my religion (Protestant-Christian), yes, the second guy would go to hell, becuase even though he was a good guy, he didnt accept Jesus as his savior, which is the key to getting into heaven. Thats basically how my religion goes. But the other man doesnt really do anything to be accepted, he just believes Jesus is the saviour. The other man on the other hand doesnt believe in anything, but he does heaps of things for society and this world. He goes to hell just because he doesnt believe that Jesus was his saviour? It just seems very unfair on how it is decided.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 81 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	July 6th, 2007 at 03:37am Hang on, doesnt God give us free will? But he still says believe in this or go to hell? Its just too contradictive for me. (Sorry, these are just my personal wonderings!)

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