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UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 23rd, 2007 at 05:20pm I'm About To Break.: Sorry, my wording was a bit messed on that one! Okay heres another question, if God really loves us why is there going to be an apocalypse? :S And like the above poster said, why should people live in fear of sinning? \ If you believe God will forgive you for your sins and you ask for his forgiveness then you dont have to be in fear of sinning. Well when the apocalypse happens who knows if we will still even be here. Jesus could have come back by then. But its all just part of nature.
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 23rd, 2007 at 06:01pm ^Exactly. Christianity is the perfect religion to shove down people's throats. They tell you that God will send you to hell if you don't believe in him or ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness. But if you do do what they say, they'll send you to a happy place. That's why Christianity is so widespread, because the Christians would just come to every country and kill people until they conform.
KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453	July 24th, 2007 at 12:20am Oxycontin Genocide.: ^Exactly. Christianity is the perfect religion to shove down people's throats. They tell you that God will send you to hell if you don't believe in him or ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness. But if you do do what they say, they'll send you to a happy place. That's why Christianity is so widespread, because the Christians would just come to every country and kill people until they conform. I don't think there is such a thing as hell. I think hell is not being in 'heaven' and to me I think heaven is whatever you want it to be. And god is only telling us to live a good life. I mean if you sin it is normally against some one and has its repercussions on that person and you, but to sin is human nature everyone does it all the time. You don't have to ask God to forgive or go to confession as long as you are sorry for your actions and ask that person to forgive you that's good enough. In addition there are loads of holy wars going on that go way past Christianity. Christians are taught not to kill so I doubt they go from country to country killing people. You should really be more respectful of peoples religion.
KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453	July 24th, 2007 at 12:42am I'm About To Break.: NotOkay22: Its not that he doesn't accept them, its that he does not approve of the homosexual lifestyle(This is my denomination's God, others see him differently, so all I am saying is from my religious standpoint). God still loves them, and is willing to forgive them. Just like God loves murderers and will forgive them if they ask, but he still does not like murder. (I am not saying that homosexuality is like murder, its just an example) But do they still go to heaven? But why must he ask forgiveness from them if they haven't nothing wrong? (Not murderers) Wow guys. God doesn't condemn homosexuality only homo-genital acts. Its scientifically proven that when it comes to sexuality you are either heterosexual or homosexual. God made everyone in his own image therefore we are all as equal. Homosexuals do not have to repent for being homosexual. Therefore it is not the being its the doing. God only sees homo-genital acts as wrong because: 1.They are not open to procreation. No two people of the same sex can naturally conceive. 2.Sex should only happen and find its true meaning in the long term commitment of a marriage. To me I don't think God would condemn a person for being themselves as God is the one who has made them. Also i feel homosexuals should be able to express their love for one another however they want. But this is just my own opinion.
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 24th, 2007 at 01:44am PrettyHandsomeAkward: Oxycontin Genocide.: ^Exactly. Christianity is the perfect religion to shove down people's throats. They tell you that God will send you to hell if you don't believe in him or ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness. But if you do do what they say, they'll send you to a happy place. That's why Christianity is so widespread, because the Christians would just come to every country and kill people until they conform. I don't think there is such a thing as hell. I think hell is not being in 'heaven' and to me I think heaven is whatever you want it to be. And god is only telling us to live a good life. I mean if you sin it is normally against some one and has its repercussions on that person and you, but to sin is human nature everyone does it all the time. You don't have to ask God to forgive or go to confession as long as you are sorry for your actions and ask that person to forgive you that's good enough. In addition there are loads of holy wars going on that go way past Christianity. Christians are taught not to kill so I doubt they go from country to country killing people. You should really be more respectful of peoples religion. It's the truth though. They did go around country to country conquering them and conforming them at knife point.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 24th, 2007 at 04:25am ^^ You cant blame an entire religion for someone's mistakes. Just because there was this christian person who went around killing others you cant just then believe that everyone who is a christian will do that or is ok with that kind of behavior. Thats very close-minded thinking.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 24th, 2007 at 04:28am You cant blame millions of people for some people's mistakes. Its as simple as that. Just becase some christians made a wrong choice doesnt mean that every other christian will. (that was to finish off my last post, I accidentally pressed submit when i wasnt finished?
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 81 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	July 24th, 2007 at 07:01am PrettyHandsomeAkward: Wow guys. God doesn't condemn homosexuality only homo-genital acts. Its scientifically proven that when it comes to sexuality you are either heterosexual or homosexual. God made everyone in his own image therefore we are all as equal. Homosexuals do not have to repent for being homosexual. Therefore it is not the being its the doing. God only sees homo-genital acts as wrong because: 1.They are not open to procreation. No two people of the same sex can naturally conceive. 2.Sex should only happen and find its true meaning in the long term commitment of a marriage. To me I don't think God would condemn a person for being themselves as God is the one who has made them. Also i feel homosexuals should be able to express their love for one another however they want. But this is just my own opinion. But doesnt god want us to be happy? And if we find true love in someone, shouldnt that be enough? Regardless of wether they are of the same sex!
KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453	July 24th, 2007 at 02:23pm ^^yes God does want you to be happy that is why he doesn't condemn it
KillJoys Bulletproof Heart Age: - Gender: - Posts: 25453	July 24th, 2007 at 02:31pm Oxycontin Genocide.: It's the truth though. They did go around country to country conquering them and conforming them at knife point. You have to remember every religion has extremists. Like terrorists, they are the bad kind of extremist but that doesn't mean every Muslim you see is a terrorist does it now? Because I'm catholic and I certainly don't go around trying to convert people. If people ask me about my religion I will tell them but I respect that they have their own mind and have their own choices to make. [I’m not penalizing Muslims I was just using them as an example] =]
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 24th, 2007 at 03:01pm NotOkay22: ^^ You cant blame an entire religion for someone's mistakes. Just because there was this christian person who went around killing others you cant just then believe that everyone who is a christian will do that or is ok with that kind of behavior. Thats very close-minded thinking. I'm not saying all Christians are like that. I'm just saying that's how Christianity is so widespread.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 24th, 2007 at 04:40pm ^^ That is one way, but another big one is that christianity has A LOT of missionaries. my church alone has about 12 missionary families that travel all over the world. People have been doing missionary work since people were able to travel, which I must say that is a long time. But there is also nothing wrong with it being widespread.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 24th, 2007 at 04:44pm PrettyHandsomeAkward: ^^yes God does want you to be happy that is why he doesn't condemn it It all comes down to how you interpret the Bible and how you live your life. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong (im not going to go into why, its not the right thread for that), but I dont condemn others who practice it. Yes God wants us to be happy, but like I said before he wants us to be happy while at the same time doing our best to follow his rules. So that basically makes it all come down to what you believe his rules are.
Oxycontin Genocide. Banned Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 2955	July 24th, 2007 at 04:53pm NotOkay22: ^^ That is one way, but another big one is that christianity has A LOT of missionaries. my church alone has about 12 missionary families that travel all over the world. People have been doing missionary work since people were able to travel, which I must say that is a long time. But there is also nothing wrong with it being widespread. I'm saying back in the old days, they would take over nations and convert them. I don't have anything against Christianity, but it's a little too far when America is run on Christianity, even in the 21st century.
UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 722	July 24th, 2007 at 08:16pm ^^ It is a little too far, your right. But Im just saying that what Christians did in the "old days" shouldnt matter in the 21st century as long as they stopped doing it. America shouldnt be run on christianity. It shouldnt be run on any religion, if the country wants to make laws then they should have more then just religious back up for their reasoning because religious back up doesnt mean anything to citizens anymore.
mcr_grl296 Killjoy Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8	July 27th, 2007 at 03:21am im catholic but i dont always follow their rules.
dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290	July 27th, 2007 at 02:43pm PrettyHandsomeAkward: You have to remember every religion has extremists. Like terrorists, they are the bad kind of extremist but that doesn't mean every Muslim you see is a terrorist does it now? Because I'm catholic and I certainly don't go around trying to convert people. If people ask me about my religion I will tell them but I respect that they have their own mind and have their own choices to make. [I’m not penalizing Muslims I was just using them as an example] =] I was born catholic, and I have catholic friends and I haven't seen them trying to convert people. Usually the converting is done by the Christians, and this is most likely what has made Christianity so powerful and so much of a major religion. Now, what you said about extremists, like terrorists and stuff; Usually 'terrorists' are told from a young age that if they do a certain thing it means that god will respect them, and that they are doing the right thing. It usually has nothing to do with how the religion is. Also; After 9/11 lots of things started being seen as an act of terrorism. Small, even un-inportant things that have nothing to do with the government. So, be more specific.
dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290	July 27th, 2007 at 02:46pm I'm About To Break.: PrettyHandsomeAkward: Wow guys. God doesn't condemn homosexuality only homo-genital acts. Its scientifically proven that when it comes to sexuality you are either heterosexual or homosexual. God made everyone in his own image therefore we are all as equal. Homosexuals do not have to repent for being homosexual. Therefore it is not the being its the doing. God only sees homo-genital acts as wrong because: 1.They are not open to procreation. No two people of the same sex can naturally conceive. 2.Sex should only happen and find its true meaning in the long term commitment of a marriage. To me I don't think God would condemn a person for being themselves as God is the one who has made them. Also i feel homosexuals should be able to express their love for one another however they want. But this is just my own opinion. But doesnt god want us to be happy? And if we find true love in someone, shouldnt that be enough? Regardless of wether they are of the same sex! Actually, in old times they accounted for the children when they were homosexual. They would get married and have children, and then go off with their partner.
dont stop. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 27 Gender: Female Posts: 4290	July 27th, 2007 at 03:04pm Oxycontin Genocide.: My parents sent me to the Christian Bible Summer Camp (it was cheaper). They asked us to except Jesus into our heart as Lord and saviour. When I did, I felt something inside me, like the feeling of love. I think like God exists, but not the God in the heavens watching over people. God is in everyone and when you have a strong faith, you can sense the God in you, whether you believe it's the Christian God, or the God in the Q'uaran(sp?). You pray to Him to help you get through the day. I guess that's kind of like the Buddhist idea, but I'm still Atheist. Well, in my school we had to do projects on religion and I think you are describing Daoism. From what I've read, Daoism has ideas of god being in nature, like the flow of the rivers. So, I think you are describing Daoism more than Buddhism.
Helena'sGhOsT Jazz Hands Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 288	July 27th, 2007 at 05:41pm i kinda believe in the christain faith. i mean i believe in god and jesus but the other stuff is kinda fussy like every word in the bible is gods word and law. im not really sure on the part about god hears our thoughts and sees every thing we do good or bad. that would be virtually impossable considering how many ppl there are.

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