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voice4mygeneration65
Jazz Hands
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October 30th, 2006 at 01:01pm
ophelia_rising:
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I'm not saying you send US troops into Sudan to speed up the course of the genocide. I'm saying that these people are defensless. They have no one to help them.


And that's why the UN should be doing more to step in.

It's not the responisiblity of the US.


Yeah, but the UN doesn't do shit!
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Jazz Hands
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October 30th, 2006 at 01:08pm
truthofcontroversy:
ophelia_rising:
30 seconds to Sam///:
I'm not saying you send US troops into Sudan to speed up the course of the genocide. I'm saying that these people are defensless. They have no one to help them.


And that's why the UN should be doing more to step in.

It's not the responisiblity of the US.


Yeah, but the UN doesn't do shit!


I mean the UN doesn't fire on unless fired upon. What's the point then of even going over there if they're not going to protect them.

SORRY! I am not pigheaded. Embarassed
Mud
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October 31st, 2006 at 08:01am
Like I said, the UN can only do what its told. The countries involved need to come to an agreement. Other than that, the UN, as an organisation, has no power to do anything other than fire when fired upon.
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Jazz Hands
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October 31st, 2006 at 11:54am
They should be able to protect thoses at risk no matter what.
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October 31st, 2006 at 11:58am
The UN, as an organisation, cannot do that. They would need their members to pass a resolution that they could act to protect the innocent at the risk of being viewed as potentially aggressive. Unless the permanent members agreed on such a resolution, as well as an overall majority, the UN could not take matters into its own hands.
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Jazz Hands
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October 31st, 2006 at 11:57pm
Then why have a UN army any way if they aren't going to protect and aid those needed it properly?
bloodredruby69
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November 1st, 2006 at 12:00am
^Because the theory of it outweighed the reality. The amount of beauracratic red tape you have to go through and the *hiney* you have to kiss to be able to move out is incredible.

It's not like they can just say "Oh, so-in-so is marching on that poor, defenceless country and hurting them? UN TO THE RESCUE!!!!!"

Unfortunately, the affairs concerend are so convoluted and complicated, that sometimes they are just not able to do anything, despite their influences and power.

That and not everyone listens to them.
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November 1st, 2006 at 12:04am
There should be help but even I know that the chances look grim and it is disheartening at best.
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Jazz Hands
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November 1st, 2006 at 12:08am
What about the Native American Genocide?
- I do mean genocide
- Example:
- At a battle or just a basic slaying (I don't exactly remember, I learned it in 10th grade history) Settlers tricked Native American childern to come out of their hidding spots and shot dead.
Hubert Cumberdale
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January 11th, 2007 at 12:09pm
So, a few days ago, The American's bombed Africa to get rid of the man who bombed the embassy nine years ago.
They bombed Africa in the middle of a freakin' genocide.
How do you feel about this?
Do you think it is helping, hurting, or doing nothing to this poor naiton?
Demented
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January 12th, 2007 at 02:27am
This is one topic that quickly sucks me in and spins me around.
I have so much hatred for every single government that if I were Godzilla I'd do some genocide on the govt. officials.
Africa has been the most popular ground for genocides. Why? Because of poverty and lack of leadership. People are being slain every single day for no reason other than money and just pure damn evil.
I'm outraged at the US govt. Instead of invading Iraq and entering THEIR civil war, they couldve help save the genocides STILL going on in Darphur and other parts of Africa. Now Bush is STILL sending troups to Iraq and doesnt give less of a damn what happens in other parts of the world.
This is so infuriating. The govt. needs to stop playing around and take some immediate action to save people.
But sadly this will keep going on and on and on because many just dont care at all.
Jeffree Star
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January 14th, 2007 at 02:31pm
In english someone explain to me what is genocide?
bloodredruby69
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January 14th, 2007 at 06:54pm
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January 14th, 2007 at 08:13pm
bloodredruby69:

ohhhhhhh... that would piss me off. we're all connected in a spirt thingy kind of way.
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February 11th, 2007 at 11:16pm
ByeHalyconDays:
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I am a native Armenian, and the Armenian Genocide and all the controversy of whether it happened or not always makes me really angry. 1.5 million of my people, my family probably included, were just killed or deported,a nd they died in the most horrible ways. And now Turkey is denying it, saying that 1.5 million people died as a result of civil war and famine. It makes me sick because it means that no one that died in that genocide is going to get justice.


That made me mad that Turkey still denies it and that not very many countries recongize it as a genocide. Not enough was done after the Armenian Genocide, because of that it let Hitler think he could get away with killing the Jews.


Here's a great quote exemplifing that:
“…send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space [Lebensraum] which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
--Adolf Hitler, 1939
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February 11th, 2007 at 11:58pm
Genocide is a sick reality of the world.
Unfortunately, though, i dont think it is possible to stop it.
Genocide is based on prejudice and racism, and both of these are just ideas.
No matter how terrible the ideas may be, you just cant kill an idea or belief.
It is as easy as that.
There will always be someone else who will follow the idea, whether they are alive at this very moment, or will be born 100 years from now.

However, there are definitely ways to help, as most of you said before i got here.
Although i do not agree with the american troops being in iraq right now, what do you think would happen if we were to suddenly pull out to go help in africa?
Their old leader is long gone, and they will be left with a very weak government.

Sure, it is nice to think that we can just leave Iraq to help the people that really need it, but since we fucked iraq up with the war before, they will be pretty much left alone with no help so that they are even worse off than before.

And as for the UN, i think it is one of those ideas that were nice on paper, but prove to be not so amazing in actuality.

EDIT: If it seems like i got off topic on that iraq thing, i should probably explain better.
The US tends to try and help the countries we fight form a democracy if we win a war against them.
Im not saying it is neccesarily right, but that's what we do.
One example of when we just left a beaten country on their own, was after World War 1. Nobody helped Germany reconstruct a government after they lost the war and were left in poverty, so they were on their own with almost no government.
Which left them vulnerable to any one person who kinda seemed to have a hold on things.
Like Hitler.
And if you don't know how hitler is connected to genocides, you really should go read up on some history.
Casimir Pulaski Day
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February 12th, 2007 at 02:10am
Mud:
Like I said, the UN can only do what its told. The countries involved need to come to an agreement. Other than that, the UN, as an organisation, has no power to do anything other than fire when fired upon.


The UN cannot force anybody to do anything. They are almost useless.
If the UN told us NOT to go to war, we could go anyways. And guess what? We did.
No

It is painfuly obvious what is going on in Darfur. . . but we have our priorities all in a twist, and we turn our heads. The daily reminders are overshadowed by the war in Iraq.
malibu.
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February 13th, 2007 at 03:09am
Its going to happen again, I rekon.
'cause theres lots of wars right now [POINTLESS! WHY CANT WE ALL BE FRIENDS?]
and there are really messed up people who think it would be 'cool' to go kill all the ______'s, so they can be remembered.
war is bad
very, very bad.
KendallSaurusxxx
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February 13th, 2007 at 09:34pm
I only think its okay if they were bad people like sudan becsause he DESERVED to die . little mother fuckerr .
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Jazz Hands
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February 13th, 2007 at 09:44pm
KendallSaurusxxx:
I only think its okay if they were bad people like sudan becsause he DESERVED to die . little mother fuckerr .


do you know what you're talking about?