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Transexuals and Transgenders

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Blackroses_MCR27
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Blackroses_MCR27
Age: 33
Gender: Female
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November 9th, 2007 at 03:48am
I think people who feel trapt in there bodys as one sex and think they are the other should have a chance to change becuase wouldnt you hate to have your mother pick out the same out fits for you every week? and tell you were to go and what to eat here and there. I do I cant stand my mother when she does that it makes me feel like I will never be free to express my self. I like the freedom to dress in black and not pink or to dress in blue and not red..I mean if this ever happens to you atleast you can change it and hope for the best and atleast they arent alone. Being alone and thinking you are not really a girl or a guy would be terrible nad besides they dont have to get a sex change they can be gay with another guy. or girl
I have no problem with them and I think that people should have the freedom to express them selfs anyway they want!
Shandra
(P.S.) Most of my friends are either Gay or Bi
CyanidexDeath
Jazz Hands
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November 10th, 2007 at 07:32pm
^^I total agree with you... Expression shouldn't be put down and restrained
((Oh and this is just a note Transgender day of remberence 11/20/07))
SkittleAbomination
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Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 10
November 24th, 2007 at 11:38pm
Hmmm....transexuality has allways and allways willbe an interesting subject in my mind. I have also read the book Luna and it was great, it gave me much more of an understanding of people who are transexual. In my mind transexual people are almost completely normal people beside the fact that they were not born in the right body. But anyway I support transexuality. I know a transexual myself.
resh
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resh
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November 25th, 2007 at 02:35am
ian.:
singxhallelujahx:
I'm transgendered, and my ex-boyfriend is transsexual. I think that we can do whatever it takes to feel safe in our own bodies, and if that means switching genders, then do it.
I want to know the difference. ><
I really should know this.


And "it would be easier" is not really useful here, either. It wouldn't once you consider how much the surgery costs, the fact that many people lose lovers once they change sex and many others lose jobs, dealing with friends and relatives who don't know what to do with you, the weird looks when you're transitioning...
Yeah, not easier.

And I guess what I'm the most interested in is people who don't quite fit into male or female, since that's more or less where I reside. (Oh, by the way I'm physically female, I forgot that you can't tell anymore.) Like I think I'd consider myself mostly male, except I don't want a penis and I still have some feminine stuff about me, but yeah. I'm still kind of confused about who I am, but I've already discovered that I can't fit myself into either box. And I'm interested in others who have a similar situation, but in different ways.
I also would like to know more about intersex(ed?) people.


im the same, i dont get the whole 'girl' thing. not interested in shoes/clothes/make up/long girly chats, but i dont particuarly want to be a guy. most of the girl mates i've had over the last few years have asked me if i want to have sex change, and a lot of them seem to find that idea easier to deal with than the fact i have no desire to change my body but that doesnt mean i want to act or dress like a 'girl' either. (girl in inverted commas because what people regard as like a girl is fairly subjective, but you get what i mean).
Jesse Lacey;
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November 25th, 2007 at 03:00am
it is also my belief that whether or not you are a boy or a girl is decided upon by how you feel, not your physical appearance.
Becky
Thinking Happy Thoughts
Becky
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November 27th, 2007 at 04:14am
I actually just watched Transamerica yesterday...but i guess that I dont totally 100% agree with changing your sex,but i feel tat if someone feels that they really need to change their sex to be happy then who should stop them.
the greatest coward.
Bleeding on the Floor
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December 3rd, 2007 at 01:37am
While I am not 100% sure about how I feel about the surgery, I totally support anybody who has it. The only reason I would have against it is the same i have against plastic surgery: It's just changing how you were born. You should be comfortable with who you are.

Other than that, I would personally never have it, but I think anyone who feels that it's something they really need to become their true selves should be able to have it.

When it comes to being a transvestite (as in just dressing and acting as the opposite gender), more power to you. Nothign against it at all, because everything anyone could find against it is socialization. There is no true logic behind a reason why a man should not wear a dress, or a woman should not have a short haircut. We are just taught to think that way. It's all peer pressure and there is no reason anyone should follow it if they don't want to.
JustAnotherBeaner
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Age: 31
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January 2nd, 2008 at 12:08am
Well i'm not for it.... but if someone is more comfortable as the opposite gender then whatever...
The Taste for Blood
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January 3rd, 2008 at 03:51pm
its they way they feel, we cant change that and trying to is horriible a crime against free will. if a guy wants to be a girl or the other way around it should be their chioce and not ours.
tabitha
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January 3rd, 2008 at 09:21pm
I'm fine with it. I worked with a transgender who had the surgery done. She had male parts but was going through hormone therapy pre-op. I had known her before and she was just so much happier once she started the process, and was more comfortable post-op with who she was.

To Resh: I am similar to you, a girl who does not do/like "girly" things. I've been a tomboy most of my life, most of my interests (comics, sci-fi, etc) are primarily male-dominated interests, and I don't particularly enjoy hanging out with girls because I can't relate to them; namely discussions about boys/men, makeup, babies, weight loss, popular/stylish clothes, etc. I am not transsexual/transgender, I just have interests that are typically associated with men. I am completely comfortable with that. My husband of 8 years is completely comfortable with that. Don't let it get you down. PM me if you'd like to chat further.
NotATypicalCareBear
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January 4th, 2008 at 03:38am
When I was younger, I was CONSTANTLY playing the "boy" whenver I could catch the chance. I had a very active imagination, and back then my friend thought nothing of it, but I just felt as though I couldn't play a girl correctly. It took me a few years to get over that, and even now I still think about it. I'll proudly announce that I'm gay (and very happy with my decision) but the thought of crossdressing isn't a stranger to my daydreams.

I'm sure this has been stated one million times over, but if getting a sex change makes you feel more complete and comfortable with your body, then I say go for it! Life is about doing what makes you happy, and what makes you comfortable with yourself. If you have to go to such measures as to physically/hormonally change that, then it just shows how much it means to you.
chemicalsatthedisco
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January 4th, 2008 at 11:58pm
im for it, whatevewr the hell makes you happy sure as hell go for it. im not against it, but to me its a little wierd, but if we let them do it, are they gonna attack us? i mean why shouldnt we? it doesnt effect us. not in the least. do people realize all the suicide that goes on with teens because of oppression from this. youre just being an ass for saying they cant
the doctor.
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January 6th, 2008 at 12:04pm
I personally think its wrong and disgusting.
You are either a male or a female.
And thats it.
Also I don't get the whole 'think like a women/man' thing.
Not all women talk about sex/boys/weight loss/gossip
and not all men constantly obsess over football/paris hilton/watch pornos etc.
Some girls like to play football. And some men hate it.
That doesn't mean they're in the 'wrong body' does it?
imo people who have sex changes are just confused about themselves and who they are.
Dr.Acula
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January 10th, 2008 at 11:58pm
I love trannies!
Mostly drag queens.
They are fabulous.
Smiley
not that I have anything against the girls wanting to be boys.
don't get me wrong.

I am a non- gender specific. meaning, I don't care if you're a boy, girl, or transgendered. Most people call it bisexual, but I'm not into lables if you know what I mean.
yep. really active in the L.G.B.T.

go trannies!

oh, and to Robert Neville--
I respect your opinion, man. But you'd be surprised if you opened up your mind a little.
snow at christmas.
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June 17th, 2008 at 12:07am
MRS PAUL WAY!1!!!!:
I personally think its wrong and disgusting.
You are either a male or a female.
And thats it.
Also I don't get the whole 'think like a women/man' thing.
Not all women talk about sex/boys/weight loss/gossip
and not all men constantly obsess over football/paris hilton/watch pornos etc.
Some girls like to play football. And some men hate it.
That doesn't mean they're in the 'wrong body' does it?
imo people who have sex changes are just confused about themselves and who they are.
well, I've changed my opinions since I last came here, and I now fully identify as transsexual. I plan to get surgery.

Yes, people aren't really just the way they're stereotyped. But that does play a huge part in how we're seen. Because I'm a girl, someone will hold the door for me, let me go before them on the bus, and also make some sexist comment at me when I'm playing laser tag. Even if the someone is just an eight year old boy or something, you get this stuff early. And honestly, the average girl and the average boy ARE different, there are actual differences between the genders, it's not some made up thing.

But anyhow, onto the confused part.
Believe me, doctors worry about that the most. There are major health risks to hormone therapy and surgery, but those are still not the foremost concerns of the doctors. Their main worry is that you'll regret it, and so there are tons and tons and tons of barriers put in place. To get to the point where you can actually get this stuff, you have to have talked to a therapist for quite a while and gotten the therapist to agree that it's the right course for you. You have to firmly believe that THIS is who you are, that it'll help you become more comfortable as yourself.

Being confused about your gender is no picnic. You go through all this time feeling like you were meant to be that but you aren't, that life would just make sense if you were a boy instead of a girl or the other away around, but it's not like being gay or anything like that. If you say you're gay, then you're gay. Fine. Done, over with. But as a transsexual, you identify as the opposite sex. Great. It doesn't do anything. You aren't. The only thing that can get you to the same point as that gay person is years of hormone therapy and some nasty and expensive surgeries. So you kind of feel cheated.
And essentially when you actually do get that stuff, you feel RIGHT. I've talked to people who have gotten this, the years of fretting about whether you passed as a boy or a girl and binding your breasts or tucking your dick so it didn't show, now it's real. And you get the body that you felt like you were meant to have.
So it really feels like the opposite of confusion, like you were confused all your life and now things finally got sorted out.
And the body thing isn't because of gender stereotypes. It's because you feel like you have the WRONG BODY. Nothing more, nothing less. That part is seriously just about the physical aspects of it.

Oh, and I don't know if anyone actually brought this up, but image stuff. My mother actually said this once, that she thought that transsexuals just hated themselves so much that they wanted to be someone else. Well, I'm fine with Elizabeth. I think she's a good looking girl, and I like me as a person, too. I just happen to think Elizabeth isn't me, which is probably why I'm able to look at her as impartially as I do, and think she's good looking.



And honestly, Mrs. Paul Way, I'd love to talk to you more about this, and anyone who feels that it's wrong. I find too many supportive people around here, and I need someone to disagree, to argue against me so I can face reality instead of this perfect little dream of mending myself and becoming this awesome guy without any complications.
IceHog69
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June 17th, 2008 at 08:32am
I do not have a problem with trs, I really don't. It's a case of being comfortable with who you are, and being who you are, and if that means, changing your sex, then sure, go ahead. If you do not feel that you are the right person, and you want to be the other, then why stop it. Plenty of animals switch genders, why not humans? I think a common misconception is that all the people that have trs are gay, but they aren't, it's not about being able to love the right people, it is about feeling right. Some girls dress in trousers, baggy teeshirts, sports bras, etc, in order to look as much like a guy as possible, and the guys wear the dresses etc, and it is simply because that is what feel natural. It is about being me, not being yourself, but being who you are in your mind.
Ignore Alien Orders
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June 17th, 2008 at 12:51pm
MRS PAUL WAY!1!!!!:
I personally think its wrong and disgusting.
You are either a male or a female.
And thats it.
Also I don't get the whole 'think like a women/man' thing.
Not all women talk about sex/boys/weight loss/gossip
and not all men constantly obsess over football/paris hilton/watch pornos etc.
Some girls like to play football. And some men hate it.
That doesn't mean they're in the 'wrong body' does it?
imo people who have sex changes are just confused about themselves and who they are.

There's an enormous different between being a tomboy (or being an effeminate guy) and really feeling like you're in the wrong body. Just to add the perspective of the kind of person you seem to be talking about, I'd consider myself a tomboy, but I definitely identify as a girl. Not a prissy girly girl, but I'm physically and mentally a female, and I'm fairly happy this way. Having spoken to people who are transsexual before, it's a whole different ball game. It's not just liking hockey when you're supposed to like barbie dolls, it's really and truly feeling like you were meant to be born something you weren't.

snow at christmas.
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June 18th, 2008 at 01:06am
ChipmunkOnKetamine:
I think a common misconception is that all the people that have trs are gay, but they aren't
sooooo tired of this.
for some reason, so many people come to the conclusion that it's a different sort of gay, but it's totally different. and in fact, we're kind of estranged from the gay community in some ways, so there are definitely complications that are totally ignored when just lumping transpeople all in as a kind of gay.
however, many transpeople DO think they're gay first, so yeah, it's related, but it's a gender thing. Sexuality IS changed based on where you're coming from, but you don't change attraction based on what body you're in, that's a different thing.
IceHog69
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September 1st, 2008 at 10:26am
There is a boy at my school. I've known him for about 6 years, and I was decent friends with him at one point. His brother is in my class, and he used to live a few doors down. He has decided that he no longer wants to be a boy, and that he is going to be a girl from now on. He was always very effeminate, and used to wear his mom's trousers, but no one thought he would go all the way. I'm, worried about him, because whilst I think that it is great that he feels that he can do this, I don't think that people will see eye to eye with him. I don't really understand why people feel the need to be violent towards him, or anyone else in that situation for that matter. I personally hope that he will be very happy, and in a way, I'm jealous that he has the confidence to do something like that, because he's not exactly unknown.
blow
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September 1st, 2008 at 12:39pm
I've always wondered (and this may be a stupid question) but if a guy who is a really a girl likes girls does that make him/her a lesbian?