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Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | July 31st, 2008 at 09:12am
Does anyone have the first DHP screencapped? They took it down before I got the chance to read it  |
Craig Owens
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1117 | July 31st, 2008 at 11:26am Do you mean the one with the Kraken? |
Jenny.
Moderator
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Posts: 19720 | July 31st, 2008 at 11:31am I just finished readin' it 
I love it. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | July 31st, 2008 at 01:27pm Craig Owens:Do you mean the one with the Kraken? I don't know - I never got to read it It's not the one that's up now, it's the one before that. |
tabitha
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 1831 | July 31st, 2008 at 08:03pm ^^ I don't have it but it's in the TPB. Were you able to get one? |
Craig Owens
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1117 | July 31st, 2008 at 10:22pm |
Amy-Faye
Jazz Hands
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Posts: 313 | July 31st, 2008 at 10:27pm ^^The last two links don't work. Says the image was removed |
Craig Owens
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1117 | August 1st, 2008 at 02:18am Sorry about that. It's fixed now. |
Amy-Faye
Jazz Hands
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Posts: 313 | August 1st, 2008 at 07:27am Taa |
Gerard Way.
In the Cannibal Glow
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 53288 | August 2nd, 2008 at 12:38pm Um I dont know if this is the right thread to ask but I need an opinion on why TUA deserves an Eisner for Best Limited Series . I have to write about it in a comic magazine I'm working for and I have no idea what to write about. I mean, tbh, me and some guys here predicted that Dark Tower will win that category and I already prepare a draft on that but now that TUA wins so I guess I have to write it all over again, lol.
Thanks in advance. :] |
The Rumor
Awake and Unafraid
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 11966 | August 2nd, 2008 at 03:17pm I think TUA deserved to win because it's (in my opinion) a very good comic that came from a very serious heart. It wasn't just another branch of something that Gerard could try out, it was something that he's always dreamt about doing and has worked on this particular comic for years and years.
Every element of the comic was very carefully thought out and a lot of attention to detail was applied by a team of people with a stinking passion for what they do and a great eye of how to execute it best. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | August 4th, 2008 at 12:16am Thanks Laura, for posting the DHP  |
Switchblade Saint
Salute You in Your Grave
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 2601 | August 4th, 2008 at 11:03pm first of all, thank u Craig Owens for da links. gonna check em out d moment i'm free!
Gerard Way.: Um I dont know if this is the right thread to ask but I need an opinion on why TUA deserves an Eisner for Best Limited Series . I have to write about it in a comic magazine I'm working for and I have no idea what to write about. I mean, tbh, me and some guys here predicted that Dark Tower will win that category and I already prepare a draft on that but now that TUA wins so I guess I have to write it all over again, lol.
^ i'm gonna just post my unprofessional & non-expert opnion on why Gabe & Gee won:
1) TUA is distinctive both in story and art style. There are very few comics like it in the market currently. According to a colleague who is a graphic novel fans, Gabriel's style of drawing has only one modern predecessor: the artist of Hellboy. which is in itself a gold standard in the world of comics.
2) A story that is made of win. It takes the X-men concept of gifted mutant children and throws in generous lashings of dark witty humour. Even at its bleakest, admit it, TUA has always managed to make u smile. I'll throw in here the factor of great writing and Gerard crafting each dialogue to the max.
3) Characterisation. aka Gerard's genius of infusing his characters with a fascinating mix of cynicism and hope. (with,of course, the indispensable help of Gabe's wonderful, wonky, vivid illustrations.) being the gifted storyteller he is, he made them not heroes in the ordinary sense but simply thru surviving what they survived, flaws and all. each and every one of em are frustrating in their own way. u may like them but u wouldnt want to be a parent to any of em. they have never been ordinary kids and they will never be ordinary adults content with finding happiness in family and friends; they are all searching for something that will finally validate their strange and chaotic existence.
4) the wonderful cover illustrations are in themselves award-winning stuff. i dont know if they count things like pakckaging but if they do, then TUA is made of win even on the surface.
5) Overall creativity and originality. From the weird and unforgettable opening of wrestling a giant squid, to an old man trapped in a little boy's body and blowing up monsters in a coffee shop, to the tragedy that was The Horror.
Hope that helped! =) |
tabitha
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 1831 | August 5th, 2008 at 05:13am Switchblade Saint:
4) the wonderful cover illustrations are in themselves award-winning stuff. i dont know if they count things like pakckaging but if they do, then TUA is made of win even on the surface.
James Jean received an Eisner for his covers on several books, TUA is only one that was mentioned in his list of accomplishments. He is amazing, however, and definitely deserves the accolade. |
Craig Owens
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1117 | August 6th, 2008 at 01:09pm psychochip:James Jean received an Eisner for his covers on several books, TUA is only one that was mentioned in his list of accomplishments. He is amazing, however, and definitely deserves the accolade. I absolutely love his Fables covers. /spam |
x..touching_hands..x
Really Not Okay
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 730 | August 11th, 2008 at 01:56pm I love his Fables covers too! /join spam.
While I think that people will view Gerard's win of the Eisner as controversial, in my opinion I can see that the series deserves recognition for a) it's glorious artwork. I truly love the style of it, and that was such a major selling point for me. Especially as I wasn't entirely convinced by the first issue. b) It's originality - I like that it is quite dark and quirky, and also that it is not something that dumbs itself down, you have to put effort into it, and i like that in a book. c) As may have been mentioned above, the covers, oh the covers! Nuff sed.
I also think there's something lovely about Gerard winning the award on the grounds that he thought he had failed in making comics, and that ship had sailed. It must be literally a dream come true for him. |
Craig Owens
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 1117 | August 11th, 2008 at 07:00pm |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | August 11th, 2008 at 07:30pm x..touching_hands..x:I think that people will view Gerard's win of the Eisner as controversial. But that's grossly unfair; the comics industry doesn't give a shit about his musical status - in fact, it originally made them even more skeptical of the work. Gerard has worked with some of the best people in the industry on this book, and I think it's an insult to all involved with the project to imply that the Eisners have gone corrupt and simply awarded Top Honors to an undeserving comic simply because it's author is fairly well-known in a completely different genre. |
tabitha
Bleeding on the Floor
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 1831 | August 11th, 2008 at 08:32pm ^^ Yes and no. I've heard some grumbling and grousing, but at the same time I've heard accolades as well. It just depends on what side of it you're on and who you were cheering for. The old-school big names are somewhat contemptuous that smaller, "indie" labels (DH, Top Shelf, Image, Fantagraphics, I'm sure there's others that have won in recent years that I'm forgetting) are getting their names out there and winning awards. But as with any medium the Eisners reflect what is out there at the time. Right now DC/Marvel are putting their money into films, smaller indies into hot talent and new ideas -- and you see where it's paying off. Smaller labels are getting awards, bigger labels are bringing in box office gold. Right now they can't have it both ways. So now is the indie time to shine. Maybe in a year or two the top pubs will get the big guns back in there with some great stories, or they'll keep pumping cash into films and printing stock stories. We'll see.
From what I'm hearing, it's not that he's a musician; or even famous, for that matter -- most comic artists have a bit of fame themselves and take it in stride, they aren't the type to get star-struck. While I've never dealt with his type of crowds, (read: screaming fangirls) I have had to coordinate with event security as well as local police from time to time to ensure someone's safety, it's part of the job. When they cross over from another medium into comics (we'll use Kevin Smith, for an example, to take the spotlight off of Gerard for a second) there is a certain expectation -- you'd better be willing to bring your A game, or you'd better pack it up. Using the Kevin example, he wrote an AMAZING Daredevil story -- kicked off the Marvel Knights line with it, in fact -- but pissed off the entire fanbase by taking YEARS to finish Spider-Man/Black Cat to the point that he is still openly chastised at cons about it, and some hardcore fans won't even read it because they see it as a failure on Kevin's part to the promise that he made to the fans. Kevin is a comic fan and can write a fantastic story and was relatively respected until he fucked everyone over. Now, he still has a fanbase but it's mostly for his films -- few if any fans would ever pick up another of his comics because they'd be afraid he'd leave them hanging like he did with SM/BC.
So back to case in point -- what gave TUA a push over the others? I didn't read Nightly News, but I did read the others. Each of them had strong points, each of them was wonderful in its own way. What set TUA apart, for me, was that it was a return to the classic "superhero" story, but told in a fresh way. It takes the idea of a Superman (Spaceboy) but gives him a more believable Achilles' Heel. Not everybody can get their hands on Kryptonite, but you can believe that you can find that one thing (The Rumor) that will bring Spaceboy to your level. The characters were "super," yet flawed; it was a simple story (one little girl's struggle for acceptance) told eloquently and beautifully, the words and pictures together as one; the story could not have been told one without the other.
That's just my opinion, of course. Take it for what it's worth. |
Person0001
Always Born a Crime
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 5099 | August 11th, 2008 at 09:20pm ^ Your opinion is always the final stop for me on this subject, Tabs - you're our resident expert! I comprehend what you've said here, and it sounds like we are in agreeance - you just have the insider's view nailed down in higher detail, as expected. |
