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March 28th, 2008 at 09:06pm
Hva. Er. Galt. Med. Verden?! Cheese
Jeg har hørt om det der, men jeg visste ikke at det var så ille. Sad
Fuck, jeg får angst av dette tullet! Cheese
Folk er veken sakelige eller korekte nå om dagen Rolling Eyes


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March 28th, 2008 at 09:09pm
Og da fant man mer av samma dritten på samma sida Rolling Eyes
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Når man snakker om Emo i dag, snakker man ofte om en videreføring av sjangeren hvor spor av punk, hardcore, postpunk, no-wave og amerikansk powerpop kan finnes i musikken. «My Chemical Romance» og «Panic! At the Disco» er de to fremste eksponentene for denne nye emo-varianten.
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March 28th, 2008 at 09:09pm
Det som skremmer meg er reaksjonene på artikkelen, kommentarene som folk har skrevet inn. Og det samme på Dagbladet Sad
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March 28th, 2008 at 09:16pm
Det er synd og skam at så mange skal være så trangsynte.
Folk er redde for ting de ikke vet noe om...
Enten gjemmer seg bak en tøff maske og et tastatur, eller fysisk og verbalt mobber folk som ikke er som dem.
Det er skremmende. Og det er trist. Sad
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March 28th, 2008 at 09:33pm
Man skulle tro verden hadde kommet lenger etter fler tiår med "outcasts" i forskjellige sjangre.. men neida, er det noe mennesket ikke lærer av så er det tidligere feil.. Sad
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March 28th, 2008 at 09:39pm
Amen! Rolling Eyes

Jeg kjenner at jeg får lyst til å gjøre noe drastisk med det, men der er jeg rimelig hjelpeløs der... Disgust
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March 29th, 2008 at 06:00am
hva iallverden kan man gjøre da? *maktesløs*
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March 29th, 2008 at 10:21am
Ha en aksjon Yes.
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March 29th, 2008 at 11:56am
hmmm.. me likey Naughty
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March 29th, 2008 at 01:40pm
Masse bannere, og slagord osv.
Jeg elsker aksjoner Tehe
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March 29th, 2008 at 01:42pm
Det er et eller annet MCR klistremerke med Gerard på i Rocksound. (Og Avenged)
Det er ikke norsk... But whateva... shoot meSmile
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May 8th, 2008 at 02:04pm
Ok, ikke norsk, but fuck me! Cheese



Daily Mail:
Girl, 13, hangs herself after becoming obsessed with Emo 'suicide cult' rock band
by ANDREW LEVY, 7th May 2008

A girl of 13 killed herself after becoming obsessed with a fashion which links death with glamour, an inquest heard.

Hannah Bond hanged herself from her bunk bed with a tie after becoming an 'Emo'.

Emo fans wear dark clothes, practise self-harm and listen to "suicide cult" rock bands.

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'Everything to live for': school student Hannah Bond hanged herself not long after showing her father the cuts on her wrists as part of her 'emo initiation'

Two weeks before her death, she started following U.S. band My Chemical Romance.

One of their songs contains the lyrics: "Although you're dead and gone, believe me your memory will go on."

Hannah, described as a model pupil, had started cutting her wrists but told her father it was part of an initiation into the Emo fashion.

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Heartbroken: Ray and Heather Bond told the court their daughter had told them emo was 'just a fashion'

Coroner Roger Sykes said yesterday that Hannah's death was "not glamorous, just simply a tragic loss of a young life".

Hannah's mother Heather told the inquest she had researched the trend since her daughter's death.

"There are websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves," she said.

"She called Emo a fashion and I thought it was normal."

She added: "Hannah was a normal girl. She had loads of friends. She could be a bit moody but I thought it was just because she was a teenager."

Hannah's father Ray, a karate teacher, said: "Two weeks before, I saw the cuts. I asked her about them and she said it was an Emo initiation.

"She promised me she would never do it again."

Hannah gave her name as Living Disaster on her page on social networking website Bebo.

The page is decorated with a picture of an Emo girl with bloody wrists after slashing herself.

Another picture shows a child's exercise book scrawled with the words: "Dear Diary, today I give up. . ."

The inquest in Maidstone, Kent, heard Hannah had been with her boyfriend at a friend's house on the evening of September 22 last year.

She had been angry when she was told she was not allowed to sleep over and when she got home in East Peckham she went straight to her room, saying: "I want to kill myself."

The inquest was told Hannah had not used drugs or alcohol before her death but Vanessa Everett, her head teacher at Mascalls School, said self-harm had become commonplace among other Emo fans.

Recording a verdict of suicide, Mr Sykes said: "The Emo overtones concerning death and associating it with glamour I find very disturbing."

•The Emo phenomenon began in the U.S. in the 1980s. It is a largely teenage trend and is characterised by depression, self-injury and suicide.

Followers wear tight jeans with studded belts and wristbands. Their hair is dyed black and worn in long fringes to obscure their faces.

Emo - from the word emotional - is a reference to the angst-filled lyrics and melancholy themes of the rock music central to the culture.

One of the foremost of these "suicide cult" bands is My Chemical Romance, from New Jersey.

Their first single, Welcome to the Black Parade, from the album The Black Parade, was released in 2006 and became a huge hit, going to number one in Britain.

The concept album follows the story of a character called The Patient, who dies of cancer.

The Black Parade is a nickname for the place where Emo fans believe they will go when they die.


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May 8th, 2008 at 02:07pm
The Black Parade is a nickname for the place where Emo fans believe they will go when they die.
HVA FAEN`?? Herregud, at det går ann å bli så korka i hodet Disgust Det er folk som henne (sorry at hun er død, men fortsattDisgust) som gjør at folk som faktisk HAR problemer blir kalt emo! Man kan jo faen meg ikke ha arr uten å bli kalt emo, og det er faktisk andre grunner til at folk driver med sånn Ranting
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May 8th, 2008 at 03:04pm
Åherreguud. Hvorfor skal MCR alltid få skylda for ting som går galt? ;s
Når jeg dør skal faen ingen lete etter noen syndebukk. med mindre jeg blir drept.
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May 10th, 2008 at 01:10pm
wtf? THATS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!Ranting
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May 14th, 2008 at 02:46am
Mer om 13-åringen som hang seg... nå har det nådd norsk media også *himler med øya* Men fint bilde av Gerard da Neutral

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KAJAL OG FØLELSER: Gerard Way i My Chemical Romance.

Hakk i plata

Musikken får fortsatt skylda når det går forferdelig galt med ungdommen.

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«Girl, 13, hangs herself after becoming obsessed with Emo 'suicide cult' rock band» meldte britiske The Daily Mail i forrige uke. Hannah Bond var bare 13 da hun ble funnet død på pikerommet. Hun var, ifølge foreldrene, en helt vanlig jente. Hadde masse venner, en kjæreste og var flink på skolen. Hun var kanskje litt humørsyk til tider, men hvem er ikke det når tenåringshormonene raser i kroppen? Et par uker før hun døde hadde hun derimot begynt å høre på det amerikanske emo-bandet My Chemical Romance, farget håret svart og pøst på med kajal. Ifølge avisa hadde hun også begynt med selvskading. Nå gir foreldrene musikksjangeren emo skylda for Hannahs dødsfall.

Det er ikke første gang musikken må gjennomgå når noe går forferdelig galt. 26. oktober 1984 skjøt 19 år gamle John McCollum seg mens han hørte på musikk av Ozzy Osbourne. Han hadde lenge slitt med alkoholproblemer. Foreldrene til McCollum saksøkte både Osbourne og plateselskapet, og hevdet at Osbourne bevisst henvendte seg til ungdom med problemer og oppfordret dem til selvmord. Anklagen ble avvist. «Musikktekster og lyrikk kan ikke hevdes å inneholde slike oppfordringer av den enkle grunn at det ikke er meningen at de skal tas bokstavelig», var dommerens konklusjon. Det hindret likevel ikke foreldrene til Raymond Belknap og James Vance å saksøke metalbandet Judas Priest året etter. De to guttene hadde tatt livet av seg mens de hørte på Judas Priest-plater. De etterlatte saksøkte bandet og hevdet at de sendte «skjulte budskap om selvmord» i musikken. Judas Priest vant rettssaken.

Det er ikke bare rocken som har fått gjennomgå. I 1992 leverte de to amerikanske forskerne Steven Stack og Jim Gundlach en rapport der de hevdet at det var et klart samsvar mellom selvmord og countrymusikk. Countrymusikken dyrket fram selvmordstanker ved å ta opp problemer som er vanlig blant suicidale, som ekteskapsbrudd og alkoholisme, mente de, og konkluderte med at jo mer countrymusikk som ble spilt på radioen, desto høyere var selvmordsraten blant hvite i området. I 2001 var det så rapperen Eminems tur til å komme i søkelyset, da en fan siterte en av hans tekster i selvmordsbrevet sitt.

Emo-ungdommen, som for et par uker siden fikk oppmerksomhet da de ble ofre for en voldsbølge i Mexico og Chile, framstilles ofte stereotypisk som depressive selvskadere som dyrker outsiderrollen. Når My Chemical Romance nå anklages for å være en selvmordskult av The Daily Mail, må man spørre seg om hva som kom først av høna og egget. I et intervju med Lydverket i fjor, tok vokalist Gerard Way selv opp problemstillingen: «Vi holdt konsert og det var ei jente som hadde enorme kutt på armene. Jeg lurte på om det var vår feil, om hun trodde hun måtte gjøre det for å gå på konserten vår, om det hadde gått så langt at våre fans hadde begynt med selvskading? Jeg følte et stort ansvar, så når noe sånt skjer, sier jeg fra hva jeg mener,» sa Gerard Way. Det tok ikke lang tid før tilbakemeldingene kom i form av videoer på YouTube. My Chemical Romance-fansen var knust over at Way kunne tro at noe slikt var hans feil. «Vi er selvskadere og elsker musikken din», sa to australske jenter. «Vi synes det er fryktelig om du tror vi gjør dette på grunn av deg. Du har bare gjort livene våre bedre. Vær så snill, ikke føl ansvar for andres handlinger.»

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May 17th, 2008 at 05:58pm
Nok en gang, ikke norsk, men Rolling Eyes

The Daily -fucking- Mail (...again):

Why no child is safe from the sinister cult of emo
By TOM RAWSTORNE, 09:46am on 16th May 2008

Hannah was a happy 13-year-old until she became an 'emo' - part of a sinister teenage craze that romanticises death. Three months later she hanged herself. Here, her devastated mother tells other parents: No child is safe

On the night before she died, she came into their room, kissed her father Raymond on the cheek and cheerfully told him: "I love you, Dad."

The following day Hannah's mother Heather went to check on her daughter and found her hanging by a tie from the top rail of her bunk bed.

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From Fresh-faced to suicidal: Hannah Bond pre ‘emo’, left, and weeks before her death


She screamed for her husband to come, but try as he might it was too late: there was simply nothing that he could do to save Hannah's life.

In the unending bleakness of the weeks that have followed, the couple have fought to make sense of what happened.

Why on earth did their daughter — a popular, intelligent and attractive girl — do such a thing?

They could find only one clue: Hannah was what is known as an "emo".

Some describe it as a cult or a sect, but in reality the term — derived from the word "emotional" — encapsulates a trend that is becoming hugely popular among Britain's schoolchildren.

A trans-Atlantic import, its followers dress in black, favouring tight jeans, T-shirts, studded belts and sneakers or skater shoes.

Hair is all-important: often dyed black and straightened, it is worn in a long fringe brushed to one side of the face.

Music also plays a critical role.

Emos like guitar-based rock with emotional lyrics.

American bands such as My Chemical Romance, Good Charlotte and Blink 182 are particular favourites.

No doubt many adults would ask: "So what?"

On the surface, it all sounds typically teenage — angst-ridden, over-dramatic and tribal.

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Heartbroken: Ray and Heather Bond said Hannah told them emo was 'just a fashion'


No different, in fact, to the Goth subculture that first emerged in Britain during the early 1980s.

There is, though, growing concern that there is a deeply unhealthy undertone to the emo movement.

Some time before her death, Hannah's parents, who live in Kent, noticed scarring on the inside of her wrists.

When they questioned her about it, honest and open as ever, she told them she'd inflicted the wounds herself and that it was part of an emo "initiation ceremony".

Only after her death would they discover how she had secretly chatted online to emo followers all over the world, talking about death and of the "black parade" — a place where emos believe they go after they die.

A check of Hannah's home page on social networking site Bebo revealed her pseudonym, Living Disaster, and that she'd decorated it with a picture of an emo girl with bloody wrists.

Another picture showed a child's exercise book scrawled with the words: "Dear Diary, today I give up."

While Hannah's wrist injuries may have been slight, the issue of selfharm among adolescents is causing growing concern in British schools.

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My Chemical Romance made it to No.1 in the UK chart with Welcome To The Black Parade in October 2006 - the 'black parade' is a place where all emos believe they will go when they die


New figures show that the number of children admitted to hospital due to injuries inflicted on themselves has risen by a third in five years.

In 2002/03 there were 11,891 such admissions; in 2006/07 this had risen to 15,955.

In both periods, there were more than three times as many admissions of girls as of boys.

Crucially, those who self-harm are more likely to go on to attempt suicide. While there is a multitude of reasons for this epidemic (exam-related stress and bullying to name but two), it is hardly surprising that the emergence of a sub-culture that appears to glamorise self-harm and even suicide is being regarded with alarm.

Inevitably, criticisms of emo culture are laughed off by those who consider themselves to be at the heart of it.

It's just a music thing, they say, and anyone who takes it further has something inherently wrong with them.

"If you listen to the lyrics, you will see there is nothing that promotes suicide; and even if there was, no right-minded person would listen to it and think: 'Now I'm going to kill myself,' ' a self-confessed emo wrote last week on a music website following the inquest into Hannah's death.

"I don't think anyone can say that there is a link between emo and suicide — it's just a myth.

"Emo has become an easy target for ridicule like this; but the bottom line is emotional does not mean suicide."

That is true, of course. But as any parent will tell you, adolescent children can be highly irrational.

They are also easily influenced and may be illequipped to deal with powerful emotions that can be magnified by a sense of "membership" to a sub-group that revels in self-pity.

It is something that Lorraine Harrison is all too aware of. She has three daughters, the youngest of whom is 11-year-old Levi, a girl who classes herself as emo.

Recently, Levi asked her mother: "Just why do people kill themselves?"

"When she asked me that, it made me shudder," says Lorraine, 46, from Alston in Cumbria. "I managed to keep calm and explained to her that people's minds are very disturbed, and often they don't really want to die. But inside I felt sick with worry that Levi is thinking about such things."

From being the sort of girl who dressed in pink and played with Barbie dolls, now Levi will wear only black.

Her favourite T-shirt is patterned with skulls, and she spends hours in her room listening to music by My Chemical Romance.

"Their lyrics seem to be associated with depression and self-harm, and I feel shock when I listen to them," says her mother.

"Levi seems to have gone from being a lively girl who enjoyed having friends around, to someone who has become quite introverted."

When the topic of suicide was raised, Lorraine became so concerned that she telephoned Levi's father, David, from whom she is separated.

"He reminded me that I used to be a rebel, too," she says. "I was a punk rocker for a while, and he reassured me it was probably just a phase that Levi would grow out of.

"But I don't feel it is like the punk rock movement. That was about a zest for living and seeing life from a different angle. We didn't harp on miserably about dying."

Efforts to snap Levi out of her emo torpor have so far met with little success.

Before Christmas, Lorraine bought her daughter a wardrobe of brightly-coloured designer clothes and jeans, but they have barely been worn.

She has banned Levi from dying her hair black, but is worried about clamping down further in case it causes further rebellion.

Levi insists that her mother is worrying unnecessarily.

"I think many of the concerns around emos aren't true," she says.

"To me, emos skateboard a lot, dress in darker colours and listen to alternative rock music.

"It's also true they probably think about feelings more than other people.

"I do get teased for being an emo because some people at school think it's just about suicide and self-harm.

"But I think you would have to be depressed already to self-harm — and I'm not depressed.

"I like going out dressed in emo clothes because it causes a stir. There aren't many emos where I live, so people look at you.

"It makes you feel individual."

That sense of rebellion and non-conformity is something that 21-year-old Jennina Taylor-Wells can relate to.

Now a student at Oxford Brookes University, she became an emo at 16.

For her, it was also about making a statement.

"I was going through an unhappy period at school," she recalls. "I grew up in the wealthy area of Cheshunt in Hertfordshire, and I was surrounded by spoilt rich kids. I felt that being an emo gave me a defined individuality."

Looking back, she acknowledges that the "cult", as she calls it, was heavily linked to self-harm and depression.

Many of her friends were actually taking prescription antidepressants.

"In hindsight, I can see that being involved with such a cult can be dangerous if you are a vulnerable personality.

"There is a very dark side to being an emo, which is about dressing in black and listening to music with very deep lyrics. That could tip a vulnerable person over the edge."

In recent years, the growing reach of the internet and social networking sites such as MySpace, Facebook and Bebo has meant that the influences to which teenagers are exposed are not controlled by mere geography.

While this can have positive effects, Professor Stephen Briggs, a clinician in the adolescent department of the Tavistock Clinic, says it can also adversely affect the way teenagers develop.

"With mobile phones, the internet and Facebook you can create a virtual world that means you need never be alone," he says. "It means that you don't ever have to be out of sight — and that doesn't allow an adolescent to experience that sense of being a bit separate, of finding one's self.

"It means you don't have a chance to mature on your own; to know who you are."

Just what directed Hannah Bond's behaviour on that tragic September night last year will never be known.

At the inquest in Maidstone, Kent, Vanessa Everett, head teacher of Mascalls Secondary School where Hannah was a pupil, admitted there had been problems with emos harming themselves.

Everett added she thought it "probable" that Hannah might have been influenced by another emo girl at the same school who had attempted suicide a year earlier.

According to a fellow student, she was a close friend of Hannah's and one of a large number of emo pupils.

"The amount of boys and girls who seem to be into it is incredible," the teenager told the Mail. "I reckon there must be 15 to 20 per cent of pupils who are emos. A boy in my class has recently got into it and he's changed completely.

"He used to be normal but now he harms himself, he's dyed his hair black and he wears dark clothes and a really long black coat.

"He's got loads of plasters up his arms and cuts and marks. I tried to ask him about them but he ignored me."

It also emerged that in the months leading up to her death, Hannah had begun to use the internet more, secretively surfing the web on the family's laptop.

Her mother told the inquest: "About a month before [Hannah's death] I noticed that she was addicted to it [the internet].

"There was a definite change in her desire to be online."

On the night of her death, Hannah had spent the evening at a friend's house — also an emo and one who had also cut himself, telling his mother: "We're emos, we all do it."

Hannah had wanted to sleep over and was upset at having to leave.

When they got home, Mrs Bond told Hannah to go to bed, adding that they would discuss the matter in the morning.

The teenager turned to her and said: "I feel like killing myself."

Breaking down in tears, Mrs Bond told the inquest: "I think I said: 'Don't be so silly — we'll talk about it in the morning.'"

An hour later, Mrs Bond went into her daughter's bedroom at the family home in East Peckham, near Maidstone, and found Hannah's lifeless body hanging from the metal railing of the top bunk.

Returning a verdict of suicide, Coroner Roger Sykes said: "She had become an aficionado of the emo fad and she was a user of the internet, which enabled her to contact other emos all over the world, in particular America.

"But she was a very well-liked girl who had many friends and was doing well in school. In her mother's words, she had 'everything to live for'.

"The emo overtones concerning death and associating it with glamour I find very disturbing. It is not glamorous; just simply a tragic loss of such a young life."

The 200 friends and family who attended Hannah's funeral will no doubt echo that.

But not everyone seems to have learned the lesson.

In a tribute book set up at Hannah's school, one pupil left the following message: "I hope you enjoy the black parade."

Naive, misguided or just plain stupid.

But then, that's always been the trouble with some teenagers. And the danger of emo.


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May 17th, 2008 at 09:24pm
Jeg blir så jævlig forbanna Ranting
Det er faen meg sånne folk som ødelegger for alle andre som faktisk bare liker musikken eller klesstilen eller hva faen!
Jeg har faen meg ikke noe sympati med den døde jenta, hu var faen meg dum. Familien og vennene hennes derimot, syns jeg fryktelig synd på.
Også at MCR skal få skylden er bare utrolig tragisk. The black Parade er det som skjer etter døden liksom? Næmmen herregud, da er nå barna naive også ja.
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June 3rd, 2008 at 10:31am
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June 3rd, 2008 at 12:57pm
Bortsett fra emo-delene, very good, Dagbladet Very Happy