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genresR4losers
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October 8th, 2007 at 11:27pm
^so would you rather that the wildlife run rampant and slowly but surely kill our natural resources, or would you rather that people try to control the situation with the best known means???
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October 9th, 2007 at 12:54am
All_You_Need_Is_Love:
NotOkay22:
Deer need to be hunted. The hunting rate is going down and it is harming both humans and animals. The deer population is getting out of control. They are overpopulating and eating crops and other such things that are important resources to humans. And the overpopulation of the deer is starving them and other animals because there isn't enough food to go around. Not hunting is doing just as much harm as hunting. Hunting kept nature stabilized.


The. Human. Population. Is. Out. Of. Control.
Humans are disgustingly overpopulated.
The overpopulation of humans is resulting in world hunger and homelessness.

It is not our place to decide which creatures we can control the population of. It is not our place to dictate nature.

If it weren't for mass commercialism and the disgusting way people treat the enviornment, there would be more than enough food for the wild animals. But no, human beings, of course, have the right to kill off land and then claim when we murder the animals it's their own fault for breeding.

If you believe it is our divine duty to dictate nature and the population of one species, it is hypocritical to think that we do NOT have that same right to control the population of other species.

There are far more starving humans than there are starving deer.
It's much easier for a deer to find vegetation than it is for a human to find the money to eat.
The overpopulation of our own species is a much bigger threat, so why kill deer and not humans? Becuase it's okay for humans to be overpopulated but not deer?
Hypocrisy.


UM HELLO! People are more important then deer! What part of that do you not understand. By not hunting people and deer are both being hurt by it. The deer needed to be hunted before they take over the freaking world!
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:23am
In your opinion they are.
But why?

Yes, humans and deer are different.
I have yet to hear the difference that makes it okay to murder one and not the other.

I will repeat, we do NOT have the divine right to control nature. We do NOT have the divine right to say "you're worthy of life and you aren't!" To think that we do is pompus.

The human population is grossly out of control. We are sickeningly overpopulated. There are homeless, starving people everywhere. As I've already said, it is much easier for a deer to find vegetation than it is for a human to find the money to pay for food. Humans are at a far greater risk.

Neither should be murdered,

Also, by your beliefs, shouldn't only the weak, starving deer be killed? But, oh, nope! Those wouldn't be as meaty, and therefore, not as convienient for humans! So we CAN'T kill those ones!

When I find a sign of a deer turning into a dictator for the world, I'll let you know. Until then, they are innocent animals who live in the forest eating plants that we have no right to say "there's too many of you for my liking, DIE!!"

If it weren't for mass commercialism and the disgusting way people treat the enviornment, there would be more than enough food for the wild animals. But no, human beings, of course, have the right to kill off land and then claim when we murder the animals it's their own fault for breeding.

Again, hypocrisy.
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:25am
genresR4losers:
^so would you rather that the wildlife run rampant and slowly but surely kill our natural resources, or would you rather that people try to control the situation with the best known means???


Deer aren't the ones killing our natural resources by eating.

We are the ones killing our natural resources.

It is not our duty to control nature. It is not our divine right. To think so is vain and pompus.

Animals who eat the food they need in order to survive are not responsible for big companies tearing down trees and murdering nature.
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:29am

What, so you would rather deer or whatever just running around?

Its only like that because humans are at the top of the food chain.

Sorry but can you not be so competitive.
I dont know about anyone else, but you are pissing me off to no end. This is a disscusion thread. Stop demanding facts, and stop ruling out everyone fucking opinion.
If you keep on going, ill alert a mod.
Remember discussion, not debate.

Thankyou.

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October 9th, 2007 at 01:34am
You plan on reporting me for speaking my mind and stating facts?
Hm, interesting.

Yes, I would rather animals be free to live.

What am I competing for? Who am I competing against?
Thank you for telling me what's in my mind, though.

I am stating my opinion, I am stating facts. When people ask me to repeat myself constantly, I get aggrivated. I apologize if you do not like the fact that other people do not believe we have infinate divine right. However, that is not my problem.

I am not going to pretend I don't care about life simply because you do not like that I do not share your opinion. If you are so irritated by me, just stop reading my posts. Nobody is forcing you to. Smile
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:36am

Sure, but you are repeating your facts!
WE DONT CARE.
We know the facts, and are now discussing it.
We arent saying you are wrong, nor right... we just have different views on how this can be taken.
I just wish you would just step back and see everyones opinion, instead of underlining what your saying, bolding what your saying and making the next bigger.
You dont see me doing that? So what gives you the right?

Ahem.

And i actually like reading your posts.
You give me a challenge.
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October 9th, 2007 at 02:10am
The people who constantly bring up the same things that I have already addressed are asking me to repeat myself, because they choose to ignore the facts.
So obviously, someone cares.

I never claimed anyone was.

As I've explained to you several times, simply because I see other people's opinions does not mean I can comprehend that kind of (what is, in my opinion) hypocrisy.

If you like reading my posts, stop complaining about how I post.
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October 9th, 2007 at 09:41am

Y'know, im just going to leave you alone becasue i seriously cant stand you.
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October 9th, 2007 at 12:12pm
All_You_Need_Is_Love:

The. Human. Population. Is. Out. Of. Control.
Humans are disgustingly overpopulated.
The overpopulation of humans is resulting in world hunger and homelessness.


Although I am against hunting to no end, I have to disagree with you ^ there. Yes, the world is becoming over populated, but that's not why there's homelessness and "world hunger". The distribution of wealth is what is to blame for that. Some people would argue that capitalism is to blame for that too [no, I'm not a socialist].
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:15pm
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All_You_Need_Is_Love:

The. Human. Population. Is. Out. Of. Control.
Humans are disgustingly overpopulated.
The overpopulation of humans is resulting in world hunger and homelessness.


Although I am against hunting to no end, I have to disagree with you ^ there. Yes, the world is becoming over populated, but that's not why there's homelessness and "world hunger". The distribution of wealth is what is to blame for that. Some people would argue that capitalism is to blame for that too [no, I'm not a socialist].


So if there weren't too many people, there still wouldn't be enough food and shelter?

The reason there isn't enough food is because there are too many people for the food that we have.
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October 9th, 2007 at 01:15pm
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Y'know, im just going to leave you alone becasue i seriously cant stand you.


You don't know me, though, therefore, you really can't decide that.

But alright, I just think you should make up your mind about where you stand at some point.
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October 9th, 2007 at 06:43pm
All_You_Need_Is_Love:
In your opinion they are.
But why?

Yes, humans and deer are different.
I have yet to hear the difference that makes it okay to murder one and not the other.

I will repeat, we do NOT have the divine right to control nature. We do NOT have the divine right to say "you're worthy of life and you aren't!" To think that we do is pompus.

The human population is grossly out of control. We are sickeningly overpopulated. There are homeless, starving people everywhere. As I've already said, it is much easier for a deer to find vegetation than it is for a human to find the money to pay for food. Humans are at a far greater risk.

Neither should be murdered,

Also, by your beliefs, shouldn't only the weak, starving deer be killed? But, oh, nope! Those wouldn't be as meaty, and therefore, not as convienient for humans! So we CAN'T kill those ones!

When I find a sign of a deer turning into a dictator for the world, I'll let you know. Until then, they are innocent animals who live in the forest eating plants that we have no right to say "there's too many of you for my liking, DIE!!"

If it weren't for mass commercialism and the disgusting way people treat the enviornment, there would be more than enough food for the wild animals. But no, human beings, of course, have the right to kill off land and then claim when we murder the animals it's their own fault for breeding.

Again, hypocrisy.


Our brains are capable of so much more knowledge and understanding. Animals don't have that. Animals are smart(some), but their brains are not able to do things that ours are. They cant feel as many deep emotions as us either. Do you really think a deer has ever been dumped at a prom? Or gotten an abortion? Or aced a science final? No. People are more important then animals are. We were designed that way. Period.
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October 9th, 2007 at 08:48pm
All_You_Need_Is_Love:
PlushToy:
All_You_Need_Is_Love:

The. Human. Population. Is. Out. Of. Control.
Humans are disgustingly overpopulated.
The overpopulation of humans is resulting in world hunger and homelessness.


Although I am against hunting to no end, I have to disagree with you ^ there. Yes, the world is becoming over populated, but that's not why there's homelessness and "world hunger". The distribution of wealth is what is to blame for that. Some people would argue that capitalism is to blame for that too [no, I'm not a socialist].


So if there weren't too many people, there still wouldn't be enough food and shelter?

The reason there isn't enough food is because there are too many people for the food that we have.


There's plenty enough food for everyone to eat properly in this world.
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October 9th, 2007 at 11:50pm
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You don't know me, though, therefore, you really can't decide that.

But alright, I just think you should make up your mind about where you stand at some point.


I dont need to know you.

Ive been on ino for years, so ive got many friends on here.
You arent going to make much of a difference.

And i know where i stand, i just dont appriciate people telling me im wrong.
However wrong i may be, i have a valid opinion. Do you see me stuffing facts in your face. Saying that your completely wrong.
And dont say that your not doing that... because you very clearly are althought that may not be your intension.

Honestly, i dont care anymore.
The way you post, gives me a challenge.. but when you just .. do what your doing now, i cant stand it.
Sorry, i just cant stand you.
Simple.


Goodbye. xD
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October 10th, 2007 at 12:08am
In order to decide you can't stand me, yeah, you really do.
I never said you weren't or you didn't. Nor did I claim it would make any difference in your life.

I also never said you don't know where you stand.
The reason you aren't "stuffing facts in my face" is because there is no factual reason why it's okay to control the population of only deer.

I do believe you're wrong.
Smile

If you don't care, you wouldn't be responding. But, you know, whatever works for you.
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October 10th, 2007 at 12:10am
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Our brains are capable of so much more knowledge and understanding. Animals don't have that. Animals are smart(some), but their brains are not able to do things that ours are. They cant feel as many deep emotions as us either. Do you really think a deer has ever been dumped at a prom? Or gotten an abortion? Or aced a science final? No. People are more important then animals are. We were designed that way. Period.


According to..... oh, right, you.

Our brains are not able to do things theirs are.
Such as unconditional love.
Do you really think a human has ever unconditionally loved all others? No.

Smile

I'm glad you've got your priorities in order.

But you should stop presenting your opinions as if they are facts.

I don't care how you think they emote, that STILL does not give us the right to say "you're worthy of living and you aren't... you're worthy of being shot, and you're worthy of being peacefully euthanized."
It is pompus and hypocritical.
It's time you stop denying that.
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October 10th, 2007 at 12:20am
You present your opinions as facts all of the time. Don't get on HER case about it.
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October 10th, 2007 at 03:37pm
It's your own opinion whether you think hunting is right or not. I, personally, believe that it's wrong. Most people don't need meat, they just want it. It isn't fair to kill an innocent animal. Some people argue that there is, "too many rabbits," or "they kill the livestock" but, is it their fault that they have to eat? Just like human beings. Is it fair to kill an animal because they need to eat? Or because you need to eat. You don't just look at your best friend and say, "my freezers empty, so I'm going to have to kill you now," do you? So it's not right that you think that about animals.
If it's necessary to kill an animal because need to eat, should we all be killing each other?
That's my opinion, but, yeah.
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October 10th, 2007 at 07:25pm
^^ I agree with certain aspects of that.
Animals do need to eat, that's nature.
And we shouldn't kill them for that reason.

But, if I was say a farmer, and it was my crop they were eating, I'd probably feel differently.