The Black Parade ~ Media hype or a real theory?
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| eveXecstasy Killjoy  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15 | 'The Black Parade is a nickname for the place where Emo fans believe they will go when they die' - daily fail opps mail 'The Black Parade is a concept album centering around the character "The Patient". It centers around his passage out of life and the memories he has of his life.The album also expresses Gerard Way's belief that death comes for a person in the form of their fondest memory' - wikipedia 'a kick ass album' - me So this is a question what is the black parade to you, what does it mean and represent to you personally? and why do you think the media are getting the message so damn wrong? is is because of a lack of understanding? or something deeper? xoxo |
| Thug Life. Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 1315 | First off i don't think this really belongs in the discussion forum, but im going to go ahead and answer the question . Personally on a critiquing level i feel that the black parade is MCR's weakest attempt to date, the strongest being three cheers for sweet revenge. I feel that with this album the band stripped away a lot of the qualities that it was built upon mainly its aggressive musical attack and its super awesome use of counter melody from the guitars. This albums a "three-chord-a-song rodeo" and if your lucky at the end of the song you get a queen'esque guitar solo. I never understood why publications referred to this piece as a Concept album, as it didn't explore any new concepts i feel it was a bit of a step back for mcr and didn't really reflect in what my opinion was their true sound. Further more i think the media is well within their rights to critique the album and to draw their conclusions from what they are listening to. It just comes down to perspective and they have just taken a different perspective on it. I feel the fans are too protective over the album and the band as they perceive it to be some sort of bible like text. I think the fans really need to ease up and not get so up in arms when someone thinks differently or otherwise of the album and its supposed message or lack there of |
| eveXecstasy Killjoy Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15 | i think it does belong here because its not really about mcr its about the way that one idea like the black parade can have so many media interpetations and how it can be changed into something negative, its really about the media's power of influence and if any mcr fans actual think its a place were dead 'emos' go as it would be interesting to see the basis of why people think that. just to make it clear ITS NOT OPINON ON THE ALBUM ITSELF ITS ABOUT HOW ITS MESSAGE IS BEING USED BY THE MEDIA TO PROVOKE NEGATIVITY! i should of made that more clear sorry! |
| Thug Life. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 1315 | I dont think its message is at all being used to provoke people by the media, because there is not set message. Theres no giant stone with " THIS IS WHAT THE BLACK PARADE IS ABOUT AND NOTHING ELSE" so the media was just interpreting what it saw and being the nature of adults and their age bracket they are naturally goint to assume that this album with heavy ladened themes that touch on death and mortality had something to do with it. Its just a natural assumption that someone that isnt a fan would draw. Its not like the entire universe listens to MCR and watches Gerard interviews. The entire Media be it in England or the United states has not seen either of the MCR dvd's, so its safe to assume that theyre not going to have a universal pool of knowledge on the band and what it preaches. They are just goint to take what the black parade is on face value and that is an album that deals with mortality .. |
| RedRiot. Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 2482 | Isn't this abit to with this |
| Girl Anachronism Thinking Happy Thoughts  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 509 | Well, it is how the media perceives it. We just preceive it differently and possibly, more accurately. You can't tell me that if you didn't know ANYTHING about the band and the meaning behind the songs that, I don't know, Mama would sound differently to you. If you couldn't really understand all the lyrics because you didn't have them memorized and engraved into your heart that 'Mama we're all full of lies. Mama we're meant for the flies. And right now they're building a coffin your size. Mama we're all full of lies.' or 'but the shit that I've done with this f**k of a gun, You will cry out your eyes all along' or the title 'Kill All Your Friends' wouldn't make you think of something entirely different then war etc. Especially those who have been hearing that MCR is just emo suicidal music that makes kids depressed and want to kill themselves. Thats the way you'd interpret it. And though before anyone in the media etc. even goes to write or talk about something so serious they should fully research it IN THE RIGHT PLACES before they say something that isn't even true, you can't really blame them all to much for thinking that especially if they interviewed some kid that acted like they knew everything upon everything about MCR trying to kill the teenagers of today. So maybe some media aren't trying to 'provoke negativity' maybe they have just been talking to the wrong people and assuming the wrong things (minus the Daily Fail, they took it to far and you could tell they didn't exactly even RESEARCH what MCR was about, and even after we told them, they still didn't care or listen). |
| Thug Life. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 1315 | Girl Anachronism: Attacking the daily mail is pointless. At the end of the day they are a publication like any other that just poses a different opinion on the matter. Its wrong to shoot down a publication just because you feel they did the band wrong by pumping out some article blasting MCR. Do you ever notice that when a publication like the daily mail slags MCR the fans get up in arms, however when a publication like Alternative press or Rollingstone rip into MCR they dont mind. |
| eveXecstasy Killjoy Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15 | RedRiot.: in a way but the quote by the telegraph was afterwards so it shows the protesy (i was there) didnt achieve to much and do u guys not think then that as a publication the daily mail had the responsibilty to research it better before printing what they THOUGHT was fact? xoxo |
| Toybox Trash Killjoy  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 42 | The Daily News ain't got nothing on 'suicide cult bands' as they put it. My Chemical Romance does talk about death but they don't talk about killing one's self. They try to avoid suicide and make people feel like they're not alone. Evanescance is a bit meh-meh. Amy Lee writes about suicide and death a lot and in most of her videos she dies some how. Here's what I have to say: Screw the media and let them think what they wanna think. It's their opinion and we'll never change it. |
| blow Bleeding on the Floor  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 1137 | Dee Dee Ramone: You could change it though, a lot of media is based on what the people want. They wouldn't still be in business if they weren't selling what's in demand. And I think this could be included in another thread, possibly the media influence one? Seeing as we are talking about the media. |
| Girl Anachronism Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 509 | Quote Maybe so, but did you notice how that protest basically brought all MCR fans together? The fans have been beaten down so much in the past years, and maybe that protest didn't do anything, but it meant something to those fans that were a part of it, and sent, however small, of a message that you can't just talk junk and not research your work and blame things and have nothing happen to you. And it helped raise money for the S.O.P.H.I.E foundation also (I don't know how much it was in American money, but it seemed like a lot). So it didn't exactly do nothing. But thats not at all what this board is here to discuss. The media's going to interpret things how they will, we can try and make that change and have people actually believe we are a cult by making them angry by posting mean letters to them constantly and have them think MCR fans are butt-munches, or we can except the fact that that is how it is and how it always (possibly) will be. (I personally thought the idea of the first protest was right, but I think more then one will just ruin it all) What I was saying before though about the media's negative view of MCR, maybe it's not due to them trying to tear MCR down, maybe they've just been seeing and reading all the wrong things and negative things other people have said about the band and that had an influence on the writer. I think it's mainly a lack of understanding, OR the media knows they will get attention from the fans by writing negative things, and that if they do so, it will sell more copies and more people will be interested in the magazine or w/e. (and before about the daily mail, I was saying they went to far with it in the sense that they made it seem like MCR told her to kill herself and cut herself. That went to far. Along with the death cult thing. It was just a completely ridiculous article that was terribly ill-researched, a journalist would get fired normally for writing something like that. It was a very serious matter, the story of a girl killing herself isn't something ANYONE has the right to flaunt around and do poor research on, the article was massive B.S. no matter whether they were just doing it for money or not. Parents probably banned their kids from listening to MCR because of it (even if it was just a tabloid, parents can be pretty paranoid when they want to).) |
| Tallulah Admin  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 16777215 | OK I'm going to change the title of this topic. It will make it more appropriate for the forum. |
| jared leto. Awake and Unafraid  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 12568 | Dee Dee Ramone: AMEN. |
| thank fsm. In The Murder Scene  Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 20564 | Edit: I'm going to unlock this - but you MUST stay on topic, guys, because it wobbles close to the Media Influence thread. |
| eveXecstasy Killjoy Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15 | does anybody actually think the black parade is some sorta afterlife? |
| blow Bleeding on the Floor Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 1137 | eveXecstasy: I didn't think it was supposed to be the afterlife, but what takes you there. The Black Parade is the form Death takes when it comes for 'the patient'. As far as the theory, all theories on the afterlife or what happens to you after you die have the same validity to me, I won't know the truth until I die. |
| eveXecstasy Killjoy Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15 | Eponine: twhy do u think every 'emo' death is linked to wanting to join the black parade? xoxo |
| Chantal Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 1015 | ^^ Possibly because it gets attention. It's something that a lot of adults want to read as the idea can easliy be changed up just a little bit and have an incredible amount of shock value.Think about it. Articles dealing with with teenage opnions on death,mortality,afterlife ,and life. Downplay the teenage ability to judge these issues by changing up the wording, and you have a good story. It sells magazine/newspapers. The media are going to have their opinions and judgements of the album. Everyone is. It's an album that sparks a reaction, whether you love it or hate it. The media may have gotten extremely away from the original meaning that the album was supposed to have, but that doesn't mean that it isn't there. Besides, the media aren't particurarly a trustworthy source seeing their main job is to sell their publication. Everyone has their opnions. The media are just the most outspoken about them. |
| blow Bleeding on the Floor Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 1137 | eveXecstasy: I don't think that. The Daily Mail is rather conservative right? At least when it comes to 'emo' bands. The article wasn't written from an objective viewpoint, it was written from a very biased viewpoint, most people, even adults, take that into consideration when reading an article, this is also to closely related too media influence, which we're not supposed to discuss in this forum. I think we should stop talking about the Daily Mail article. And I also thought that the premises of the Black Parade is that it takes the form of your fondest memory? The patient's fondest memory is that of a parade his father took him to as a child, so that is why Death took the form of the Black Parade for the patient. It would most likely not take that form for anyone else. |
| Faye Merci Salute You in Your Grave  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 4473 | Personally, I don't "believe" in the Black Parade. I honestly can't see how people decided to make this into some cult. I mean, it was just a lame dream of Gerard's. It's not a religion, you know? I'm a bit surprised that people took this so seriously. |
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