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YourStarlessEyes
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March 25th, 2007 at 09:36pm
What is it?
Can it be prevented?
Are the people doing anything to prevent it?
Is the government trying to prevent it?
What are your other opinions about this subject?

I don't want to get in a heated debate and argument. Please post your opinion, and respect the opinions of others. Thank you.
Kaede
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March 26th, 2007 at 01:18am
If many people were donating money to a poor country it won't end poverty because their government is screwed up... therfore if their government can change their ways then there would be some people living in houses right now.
Chemical.T.Frank
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March 26th, 2007 at 03:05am
What I think is that too much money that suppost to go for charity disappeares. How can we trust politics and all those organizations? It˙s happening here and I˙m sure it˙s happening around the world aswell. It˙s the sad truth. And how "good" are our organizations sending help to Africa and they don˙t even care about poverty in Slovenia. Wouldn˙t it make bigger sense to help their own country at first.
Catharsis
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March 27th, 2007 at 02:13am
People who are suffering from poverty and countries which are in a state of poverty need more than just money to resolve their issues. There are always many other factors which are involved and giving them money is simply going to be a band-aid solution which doesn't do anything than provide some short term relief for some individuals if you are lucky.

Governements of wealthy countries should go into these countries which are suffering from poverty and work with them and implement programs which will enable the country to work towards a sustainable community.
This isn't always possible though because of the other factors involved eg if the country is involved in war, political turmoil etc, but it would at least be a start
mcr_vimto
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August 13th, 2007 at 12:50am
poverty is a big isue and i dont see why more people arnt more conserend about it.
a chiled in poverty DIES around evary 20 SECONDS and no one seems to f****** care. i think that govermants all around the world should stop any debt that 3rd world contrys may have because its is so easy and they have enouth money.
mcr_vimto
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August 13th, 2007 at 12:59am
poverty is a big issue and i don't see why more people aren't more concerned about it.
A chilled in poverty DIES around every 20 SECONDS and no one seems to f****** care. i think that governments all around the world should stop any debt that 3rd world country's may have because its is so easy and they have enough money.
But no one seems to care. it is really easy to sponsor a chilled my year in school has sponsored a chilled and it only costs £13 a month its not much but it man make all the difference to a childes life. Sad

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Rhys Webb
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August 13th, 2007 at 01:18am
overty is a big issue, and yes i feel bad for the people in poverty.
but what about all of the "poor" people who left their homes at a young age and resorted to drugs, and beg for money on the streets?
how can you feel sorry for a person like that? i see it a lot in my town, and it is bloody ridiculous. that is why sometimes i can't feel sorry for pverty stricken people.
but if people are out on the streets because they were evicted, their house got burnt down, etc. then that is a different story.
i know it is a huge problem, but america's government is so screwed up they can't even get themselves together. we are in way too much debt to give to people in poverty.
Megan Vegantoast
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August 14th, 2007 at 08:43am
The following statement is taken from a blog written by Anonymous I

People say that we can end starvation by meeting the demands of poor countries. They say that if they had enough grain to feed themselves then they wouldn't starve. This, my friends, isn't true.

The thing that causes starvation is a lack of money, not the inability to meet demand for food. Countries that are starving are often times poor as well. So even though we could easily meet the country's demand for food if a large percentage became vegan/vegetarian or farmers started growing more crops, people still wouldn't be able to buy the food.

Also, people think "well, if we just give them more nutritionally sound food, then they'll be fine. this also isn't true.

There was a hybrid made of rice called gold rice that contained vitamin A and it was supposed to be sold to poor countries because of the vitamin A deficient countries. Well, thing was, they had to eat a few pounds of it just to get 20% of their vitamin A. Also, they failed to understand that people can't afford 2 pounds of rice in countries on a daily basis and plus if they're deficient in vitamin A, then they're probably deficient in a lot of other things, too.

So, how do we tackle poverty and starvation? I think we should...

1. either stop outsourcing our toys, technology, and other things and make more big time companies free trade. This way people actually get their money's worth in jobs. 9 times out of 10, the things you buy at a store like Walmart weren't free trade and the people who made them were paid very little (i.e a penny an hour) and worked in harsh factory conditions. An example of this is leather coats. the people who make leather items are exposed to harsh chemicals that give them cancers such as leukemia and other illnesses and are paid very little. Not even enough to support their families.

2. Start trading with more countries to make them richer. If we all work together to create a trading society, it might also cut down on war, give us a few more allies, and help the economies of other countries.

3. Stop buying things that aren't free trade or at least limit it. The less you buy, the less demand there will be for these things. If you do this, more companies might start using fair trade.

"We are the first generation in history that can end extreme poverty. That's our good fortune, our challenge, and our responsibility."
-- Jeffrey D. Sachs
Author of The End of Poverty and director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.
fun ghoul
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August 14th, 2007 at 10:25am
Poverty can be prevented if people start caring for their
education in the start, to get a good job and life, you never know
if you would get poor and bankrupted anytime in your life.

People who are already engulfed in poverty need to be helped,
and other people who have money have to give even the littlest things to the poor
then if this practice is done by many people, then the world can actually rise from poverty.
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August 14th, 2007 at 11:29pm
Megan Vegantoast:
The following statement is taken from a blog written by Anonymous I

People say that we can end starvation by meeting the demands of poor countries. They say that if they had enough grain to feed themselves then they wouldn't starve. This, my friends, isn't true.

The thing that causes starvation is a lack of money, not the inability to meet demand for food. Countries that are starving are often times poor as well. So even though we could easily meet the country's demand for food if a large percentage became vegan/vegetarian or farmers started growing more crops, people still wouldn't be able to buy the food.

Also, people think "well, if we just give them more nutritionally sound food, then they'll be fine. this also isn't true.

There was a hybrid made of rice called gold rice that contained vitamin A and it was supposed to be sold to poor countries because of the vitamin A deficient countries. Well, thing was, they had to eat a few pounds of it just to get 20% of their vitamin A. Also, they failed to understand that people can't afford 2 pounds of rice in countries on a daily basis and plus if they're deficient in vitamin A, then they're probably deficient in a lot of other things, too.

So, how do we tackle poverty and starvation? I think we should...

1. either stop outsourcing our toys, technology, and other things and make more big time companies free trade. This way people actually get their money's worth in jobs. 9 times out of 10, the things you buy at a store like Walmart weren't free trade and the people who made them were paid very little (i.e a penny an hour) and worked in harsh factory conditions. An example of this is leather coats. the people who make leather items are exposed to harsh chemicals that give them cancers such as leukemia and other illnesses and are paid very little. Not even enough to support their families.

2. Start trading with more countries to make them richer. If we all work together to create a trading society, it might also cut down on war, give us a few more allies, and help the economies of other countries.

3. Stop buying things that aren't free trade or at least limit it. The less you buy, the less demand there will be for these things. If you do this, more companies might start using fair trade.

"We are the first generation in history that can end extreme poverty. That's our good fortune, our challenge, and our responsibility."
-- Jeffrey D. Sachs
Author of The End of Poverty and director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.

Ach. I know you quoted this so I'm not calling you out, but the author seems to have confused free and fair trade....at least I hope he/she is talking about fair trade.

Mr.Armstrong
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August 15th, 2007 at 01:28am
YourStarlessEyes:
What is it?
Can it be prevented?
Are the people doing anything to prevent it?
Is the government trying to prevent it?
What are your other opinions about this subject?

I don't want to get in a heated debate and argument. Please post your opinion, and respect the opinions of others. Thank you.

1) poverty can be prevented but it will take hard long years.more people.more money and more people supporting in this event.

2)I'v have to give to answers Yes and No
Some people do what they can to help stop poverty.thats a fact
but Not enough people are helping Not enough people are donating.
And No if people were doing anything to prevent it then poverty would have ended by now.

3)Some Governments put more money into there needs likes defense,etc
but fact is if the government did do anything to prevent poverty then more people would have cared about poverty and more people would be donating

my Opinions are that there are innocent people who are dieing from hunger,cold,desies,etc
innocent souls are being killed and thrown away because there not getting the facilitys and requirements they need.
If there is anyone who says they are against poverty then why dont they do anything to stop it why dont they donate more to dont they help the needy.
You see we all are the luckiest people on earth to have shelter,food,facilitys and requirments we need.why are we always the people who complain that life sucks,i wanna kill myself cause of shit, etc when we should open our damn eyes and look at people who are suffering out there when people out there have real shit in there lives.All of us should be fortunate to have what need in life not what we want.
We shouldnt say One is Rich One Is Middle Class And One is Poor.
because inside where all the same.
Eddie
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August 16th, 2007 at 11:12pm
my mum pointed out,
clearly where the poor african people is living is unfarmable
they will never be able to make a living from farming there
so what the charities should be doing is moving these people further from the dessert where they will be able to make a living
i guess, some people wouldnt want to move
but its a life and death situation, i'm thinking most would
Megan Vegantoast
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August 17th, 2007 at 04:03am
Dimestore Saint;;:
Megan Vegantoast:
The following statement is taken from a blog written by Anonymous I

People say that we can end starvation by meeting the demands of poor countries. They say that if they had enough grain to feed themselves then they wouldn't starve. This, my friends, isn't true.

The thing that causes starvation is a lack of money, not the inability to meet demand for food. Countries that are starving are often times poor as well. So even though we could easily meet the country's demand for food if a large percentage became vegan/vegetarian or farmers started growing more crops, people still wouldn't be able to buy the food.

Also, people think "well, if we just give them more nutritionally sound food, then they'll be fine. this also isn't true.

There was a hybrid made of rice called gold rice that contained vitamin A and it was supposed to be sold to poor countries because of the vitamin A deficient countries. Well, thing was, they had to eat a few pounds of it just to get 20% of their vitamin A. Also, they failed to understand that people can't afford 2 pounds of rice in countries on a daily basis and plus if they're deficient in vitamin A, then they're probably deficient in a lot of other things, too.

So, how do we tackle poverty and starvation? I think we should...

1. either stop outsourcing our toys, technology, and other things and make more big time companies free trade. This way people actually get their money's worth in jobs. 9 times out of 10, the things you buy at a store like Walmart weren't free trade and the people who made them were paid very little (i.e a penny an hour) and worked in harsh factory conditions. An example of this is leather coats. the people who make leather items are exposed to harsh chemicals that give them cancers such as leukemia and other illnesses and are paid very little. Not even enough to support their families.

2. Start trading with more countries to make them richer. If we all work together to create a trading society, it might also cut down on war, give us a few more allies, and help the economies of other countries.

3. Stop buying things that aren't free trade or at least limit it. The less you buy, the less demand there will be for these things. If you do this, more companies might start using fair trade.

"We are the first generation in history that can end extreme poverty. That's our good fortune, our challenge, and our responsibility."
-- Jeffrey D. Sachs
Author of The End of Poverty and director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.

Ach. I know you quoted this so I'm not calling you out, but the author seems to have confused free and fair trade....at least I hope he/she is talking about fair trade.



oops.
I'll ask her about that.
She probably just made a typo or something.
i don't know.

Edit: Yeah, she meant Fair trade.
She's going to correct that now.
ticklemegia
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August 17th, 2007 at 07:57am
if we put all the impoverished, marginalized people in one island and let them die, that would certainly end poverty. but of course, that would be against the law and other moral stuff so, we're doomed.
Fantasma
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August 18th, 2007 at 12:02pm
There are just so many different issues to consider about when talking of poverty. There are educational questions, food, farming, schools, governments, our conscience etc. We live in a materialistic bubble world where there is everything we need and even more. In a world like this, how many really gives a damn about some random people living in poor countries? Yeah, I know. It seems like not many.
Poverty issues are always shown in tvs and newspapers, but they don`t work. They just don`t. People watch a music video where they show a glimpse of a girl almoust starved to death and they feel horrified or sad or something for a second. Then they`ll eventually, after a while, forget about it. So what the hell we can do? Sure we donate money (I do it, too) but how much does it really help? There are ways we try to find out to save the poor people, but the development of that is very slow. The poverty issue has been a big thing for many many years and it seems to remain the same, no matter what. Of course I give credit for those who dedicate their lives on helping others to achieve a better way of living, but things still seem to be the same. If every country could stop to think about all the crap things and just work for the poor, then maybe something could happen. But that will never happen, for it being too complicated and utopistic thing to wish for.
Blue_Demon
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August 18th, 2007 at 05:52pm
Kaede:
If many people were donating money to a poor country it won't end poverty because their government is screwed up... therfore if their government can change their ways then there would be some people living in houses right now.


I totally agree with this. Poverty happens not just because the big and evil western countries are taking advantage - though the west are trying to address the problem - but because their own goverment is taking advantage of all the charity money that has been sent out and goes through them; thus more money to the rich goverment leaders and less to those in need.
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August 18th, 2007 at 09:17pm
Eddie:
my mum pointed out,
clearly where the poor african people is living is unfarmable
they will never be able to make a living from farming there
so what the charities should be doing is moving these people further from the dessert where they will be able to make a living
i guess, some people wouldnt want to move
but its a life and death situation, i'm thinking most would

Well originally the people who live in these lands lived by hunting and gathering, not farming. There are still some groups who do that, particularly in the Kalahari. That's how you create a sustainable lifestyle in that environment. Maybe if people stopped insisting that only our method of agriculture allows people to live comfortably, we could move a little further in helping food crises in areas where our method of agriculture doesn't work at all.


kouks
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August 23rd, 2007 at 02:16pm
i think that if someone wants 2 help,the best thing is to donate food and money,and give it or send it to the person themselves,u can't trust anyone with your money and some charities spend it on the wrong stuff
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August 23rd, 2007 at 05:42pm
ticklemegia:
if we put all the impoverished, marginalized people in one island and let them die, that would certainly end poverty. but of course, that would be against the law and other moral stuff so, we're doomed.
Funny.

Actually poverty is inevitable when you live in a capitalist society. You can't have capitalism without a lower class, and the lower class is typically composed partly of poor people who may work hard and try their best, but just can't break out of that.


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September 1st, 2007 at 05:49am
I personally don't think the government is doing enough to prevent poverty. They're too busy with how much money they're making and taking part in wars.
What really bugs me, is that there are people starving in the world, dying everyday, and we just pay attention to the stars on TV and how much money they own. What if they did something useful with that money instead of buying a bag over $1000!! Sure there are celebrities building schools and stuff but take for example Angelina Jolie. It's not like she can adopt all the poor children out there!!
It's just really pisses my off when I see people like 50 CENT throwing money around in their music videos when they can do something better with it.