MCR & the Smashing Pumpkins

So, I've read articles where Gerard and co. say that their music and musical career is at least partially inspired by the trajectory of the Smashing Pumpkins, and I've always felt that there was a real correlation between each MCR album and the corresponding Pumpkins album.

Dangers Days was to correspond with Adore, and I was excited to see what, if any, connection I saw. So are there any people out there who like the Pumpkins enough to notice that:

In S/C/A/R/E/C/R/O/W, there's the lyric "count to seventeen and close your eyes," ala 17, the last song on Adore, referencing the album insert "17 seconds of..."

I can't overstate how cool I found this. Cool enough to register on a forum for this first time since billy-corgan.net got shut down.

P.S. The rules I have to click on the bottom are great and I feel very certain I'm violating the spirit, if not the letter, of them.

i'm not locking this thread because i like this thread a lot already, and i think it can spark some convo

i've always felt like their albums corresponded with the pumpkins
gish = bullets (the beginning, had "rawer" sound i guess), siamese = revenege, mellon collie = tbp (theatrical and epic), and now adore = DD (with the new experimentation and no drummer)

I also love how after TBP Bob was gone and when Mellon Collie was done Chamberlin went too.

I ALSO ALSO thought s/c/a/r/e/c/r/o/w was very pumpkins-esque when i first hear it

fabulous killjoy.:

i'm not locking this thread because i like this thread a lot already, and i think it can spark some convo

Much appreciated.

fabulous killjoy.:

i've always felt like their albums corresponded with the pumpkins
gish = bullets (the beginning, had "rawer" sound i guess), siamese = revenege, mellon collie = tbp (theatrical and epic), and now adore = DD (with the new experimentation and no drummer)

I also love how after TBP Bob was gone and when Mellon Collie was done Chamberlin went too.

I'm a novice enough MCR fan to have not been entirely aware of Bob's disappearance. Though I did wonder why he didn't get a cool action hero name. That symmetry is beyond cool/creepy.

So, I got pretty into this theory and spent a crazy amount of time developing it. I don't want to venture into tl;dr territory, so I'll just say:

The whole Pumpkins story line was, to me, about Zero/Glass's relationship with June. Each album was a snapshot of that process: Gish, hopeless idealism and a lack of awareness of what lies ahead ; Siamese Dream, angry denial and a belief that the problem can be vanquished with ease ; Mellon Collie, the horrifying realization that things are going to be more complicated than you anticipated and won't always work out right. I'll stop there to compare with MCR...

MCR, essentially representing the post-9/11 generation which is biding time 'till the end of days (amiright?), goes through the same stages (oversimplified, stuff like anger, loss, acceptance) across their albums. Siamese Dream + Three Cheers = anger, revenge, denial.
MCIS + Black Parade = forced acceptance of loss/pain

Aaaanyway. Some thoughts I have sometimes. And I never really focused much on the obvious similarity in theatricality between Mellon Collie and the Black Parade... sometimes I get too caught up in plot lines to notice that things sound similar too.

I definitely agree with this!

Also, a lot of you probably know this already but I remember reading an interview where Mikey says that he and Gerard were at a Smashing Pumpkins concert at Madison Square where they basically realized that that is what they wanted to do with their life and that's when playing there became a big dream of theirs. So I mean it would make sense as to why they would wan to model their career after them I guess, since that band was huge for them.

Also, funny I should come across this thread, because I was just thinking, Gerard's voice realllllly sounds like Billy Corgan in parts of The Kids from Yesterday.