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Mud
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August 6th, 2006 at 12:19pm
This has been touched on in a couple of threads, so I thought I'd start a thread.

Do you think it is important to vote?

Have you voted before? And will you vote in future? Why?

Do you feel that your vote makes a difference?

What can be done to influence more young people to vote?


I'm not sure those questions quite put across all of what I wanted to talk about, but I hope you'll get the general idea. Smile
Nikki.
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August 6th, 2006 at 12:38pm
I think it is important to vote. When I hear people over 18 whining about President Bush, and it turns out they didn't vote, they really have no place to whine for not voting at all.
assiralc talc
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August 6th, 2006 at 12:45pm
Mud:
Do you think it is important to vote?


Yeah, because people fought for those votes. We may as well use them.

Mud:
Have you voted before? And will you vote in future? Why?


Not old enough to vote yet, but I think I will next year. I'll vote because I don't think parties should stay in power for very long, and Mr. Blair has been damaging England for long enough. Although, I don't really like the alternatives much either.

Mud:
Do you feel that your vote makes a difference?


Not really. But it'd make even less of a difference if I didn't use it.

Mud:
What can be done to influence more young people to vote?


I don't really think you can do very much. I mean, the government adverts telling people that 'Politics is cool' don't convince anyone and frankly, they're annoying. Maybe instead of boring people sick with discussing constituencies and Andrew Mar, you could show people how governments affect their lives, ie taxes and regulations. Then show them what different parties do and then you can decide whether it's important in your life. If that makes sense...Iunno, apathy is pretty widespread. I think there's pressure on many young people to pick a political party and stick with it for the rest of their lives. And then you get categorised as either a leftie or a rightie. Maybe people just don't want to inherit old prejudices between parties.
Jake
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August 7th, 2006 at 10:24am
Oh my goodness.
If it's one thing I hate, it's when people choose not to vote, then whine about their current leaders.
What's that? You're old enough to vote? You hate President Bush? You /didn't/ want to vote?
THEN SHUT-UP.
Goodness, your vote really does have a say in stuff. A lot of people who their leaders didn't try to vote for the one they like. If all of them would've voted, who knows, maybe the other person would be in charge.
TheMidnightLurker
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August 7th, 2006 at 01:51pm
Maybe there should be a question that asks - I'm just throwing this out there - if it's right not to let certain people vote: ie, people that are not 'citizens' or people that are under aged. For the age thing, I think that it should be vetoed - unless you're a three-year-old that can be persuaded to vote a candidate due to lollipops - because no matter how old you are, you still have an opinion and it needs to be expressed. For the citizen thing, most of you probably don't know but many immigrants - whether you're from like Canda, or the Philipines - need to 'become' a citizen to vote in America and I say that's kind of wrong because to become a citizen, you have to face all kinds of degrading things like taking a test to see if you know US history properly (who wouldn't?) and taking shots just incase you're a foriegn person who might be carrying tuberclosis into the country(oh, and if you do have said virus and it can't be terminated, you will never become a citizen, therefore, never having the priviledge to vote).
assiralc talc
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August 7th, 2006 at 03:28pm
I think you should be able to vote at the age when you start getting taxed. Otherwise, you're giving money to a government you haven't voted for, which is unfair, really.
m45tq
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August 7th, 2006 at 06:54pm
If you don't vote, you can't complain.
And that's all I have to say.
m45tq
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August 7th, 2006 at 06:57pm
TheMidnightLurker:
Maybe there should be a question that asks - I'm just throwing this out there - if it's right not to let certain people vote: ie, people that are not 'citizens' or people that are under aged. For the age thing, I think that it should be vetoed - unless you're a three-year-old that can be persuaded to vote a candidate due to lollipops - because no matter how old you are, you still have an opinion and it needs to be expressed. For the citizen thing, most of you probably don't know but many immigrants - whether you're from like Canda, or the Philipines - need to 'become' a citizen to vote in America and I say that's kind of wrong because to become a citizen, you have to face all kinds of degrading things like taking a test to see if you know US history properly (who wouldn't?) and taking shots just incase you're a foriegn person who might be carrying tuberclosis into the country(oh, and if you do have said virus and it can't be terminated, you will never become a citizen, therefore, never having the priviledge to vote).
I could not disagree with you more.

A lot of teenagers would change their opinion if their favourite band did.

How many kids on this message board are obsessed with vampires simply because MCR has one song about them.

If MCR said that it was cool to hop around on one foot wearing a clown costume, balancing a hot dog on your nose, a lot of people on here would start doing that in half of a second.

Thus, it's not a good idea to let young teenagers vote.
Mud
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August 7th, 2006 at 09:57pm
juicebox.:
A lot of teenagers would change their opinion if their favourite band did.

How many kids on this message board are obsessed with vampires simply because MCR has one song about them.

If MCR said that it was cool to hop around on one foot wearing a clown costume, balancing a hot dog on your nose, a lot of people on here would start doing that in half of a second.

Thus, it's not a good idea to let young teenagers vote.[/size]


I agree. Young people are often too impressionable. Not all, but a lot are. I think 18 is a good age. Admittedly, some people are still very unsure in their opinions, but by 18, most people know which things they think are acceptable and which are not. A lot of people don't always understand the ins and outs of taxes and suchlike, but I think thats fairly true of most age groups.

I remember when I was younger, I didn't know anything about it, but I was pro-Labour all the way, because my parents had been. At that time, they were losing faith in Labour, but because I didn't know much about it and knew they had voted Labour in the past, I assumed that they had been right.

Young people are often more trusting, more confuseable (I know thats terrible English, but I can't think of the word I mean) and more easily persuaded. I think celebrities should be more involved in explaining politics. I agree that it is important that they should express their opinions, but I also think someone kids will listen to should explain a lot of things, cos most young people won't listen to politicians and, lets face it, no one really trusts them.
Yaoi Owns You
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August 8th, 2006 at 06:48pm
anarchy all the way!

but on serious note

Voting is something that can't be a trend. It can't be like "Oh they're voting for this guy/girl i'll do that too!"

Uhhh no.

You really have to pay attention and make sure you know EVERYTHING about who you favor. And i think that the voting age should go up to at least 21. 18 is too young, you just got a car, starting college, and probably getting a real job and real responsibility You don't need to help decide the countries leader if you're under pressure, (no pun intended) and can't really pay full attention to the intentions of the canindates running.

And no Diddy won't kill you if you don't vote.

Would be funny though.......
I:IIIIII
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August 9th, 2006 at 08:16am
i think everyone should vote. those people are are going to run your country for however many years to the next election, so i think you'd want a say in things. and it could all go down the shitter real quick if no one votes.

in australia its compulsery to vote, so im going to have to vote from age 18 till whatever age i die. but you can put anything on the ballot and it doesnt matter. alot of people put Mickey Mouse on their ballot (which is stupid) but they cant do anything about it.

but i dont think my vote is going to count though. i think John Howard is going to be Prime Minister till he steps down, which is going to be never. but the other parties are equally as shit as Howard. i wont vote for Howard when im old enough to vote though, because hes lied about so much and led the country to war, yet everyone seems to vote for him still.
Mud
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August 9th, 2006 at 09:59am
kylie:
in australia its compulsery to vote, so im going to have to vote from age 18 till whatever age i die. but you can put anything on the ballot and it doesnt matter. alot of people put Mickey Mouse on their ballot (which is stupid) but they cant do anything about it.


I think thats a stupid way of doing it, but I think, if you're unhappy with the choice of candidates its a good way of expressing that to waste your vote (to vote - just to mark an 'x' in the relevant place or otherwise make it obvious that you did it on purpose). If enough people do that, they have to reballot and it does, if nothing else, let the political parties know where they stand. I'd consider doing that if I were of voting age (I'm 17, British).
Catharsis
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October 20th, 2006 at 01:39am
i do think it is important to vote, if you have to live in this world you may as well have a say in what is going on in it. i have not voted before this year will be my first time, in my country you don't have a choice on voting you either do it or get a big fine. it really annoys me how people continuessly complain about their government but then when it comes to voting day they either don't do it or if it is compulsary they put in a blank voting forma dn think it is funny. if you chose not to vote, i think you just lost you right to voice your views on the government. i think especially in australia very little is done in the way of educating children about the government and how it works so when it comes time to vote they have no idea who they should vote for. more education would be good, also voting information that comes directly from political parties should be worded so everyone can understand there intentions.
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October 20th, 2006 at 01:59am
SA_MCRew:
And i think that the voting age should go up to at least 21. 18 is too young, you just got a car, starting college, and probably getting a real job and real responsibility You don't need to help decide the countries leader if you're under pressure, (no pun intended) and can't really pay full attention to the intentions of the canindates running.


I don't agree. I mean, I'm 20 so yes, I have voted. And I would say that I, along with most of the other kids in my school eligible for voting were very much aware of what was going on during all the campaigning. I was in my senior year of high school (2 years ago) when I voted for the presidency (US). Politics are important, because it is what runs and influences your lives. And I don't think taking a few minutes to stop whatever it is you're doing, and do some research on all the candidates running, will kill you. Not to mention, lowering the voting age could also lower the age for when you can join the army, or potentially drafted during a war (I know it's not like that now, but I was speaking of the future). That was one of the big issues with Vietnam. We don't need to see any younger people dying in battle then we already do.

But i do agree that not voting, or even not registering to vote, is stupid. I have an aunt and uncle who never voted because neither of them are registered. They always use to same excuse every year that they were too busy, or something else. My parents yell at them all the time for this, but they don't listen.
My Chemical Asshole
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October 24th, 2006 at 06:42pm
Teenagers should have a say in some stuff but not electing.
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October 24th, 2006 at 08:51pm
Do you think it is important to vote?
Yes,because if more people voted,then maybe somebody decent would win the election and lesser people would be bitching.

Have you voted before? And will you vote in future? Why?
I have not voted,seeing that I'm only 12. But yes,I do plan to vote. I think it's a way of having your party ((democrat or republican)) to speak out.

Do you feel that your vote makes a difference?
Of course it does. Each and every vote for one of the nominees is a step closer to them winning.

What can be done to influence more young people to vote?
If they don't vote,a lot of them'll be bitching because they don't like the president,but if they DO vote,then thy are helping their party's representative win.
elliephant
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October 25th, 2006 at 05:48am
Do you think it is important to vote?

Yes I think it's totally important to vote, after all, our leaders are supposed to represent us and reflect society's values, and how can they do that if not everyone votes? I think it's ridiculous not to vote, what reason can you have for not voting if you're eligible, if you don't like any of the parties, you could always just vote for a smaller party anyway, to give them a voice, and there probably is a minority party that reflects your values in some way. It's selfish really to take our right to vote for granted when there are so many people in the world who fight and die for the same rights. If nothing else, at least voting gives you the right to complain about the government.

Have you voted before? And will you vote in future? Why?

I haven't voted before, and at the moment I'm ineligible both because I am under eighteen and because I'm not an Australian citizen yet. But I am going to become a citizen and when I'm old enough I will vote.

Do you feel that your vote makes a difference?
Yes, every vote counts.

What can be done to influence more young people to vote?
I don't really know. Free snags at polling booths? or maybe increasing the punishment for not voting, I don't know what it is at the moment, but apparently it's a fairly small fine.
asha shake.
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October 25th, 2006 at 06:18am
elliephant:
maybe increasing the punishment for not voting, I don't know what it is at the moment, but apparently it's a fairly small fine.

Yeah, it's a pretty small fine.
Most people who don't vote never actually even get the fine,
& if you are one of the unlucky people that does, it's really easy to get out of.
My Chemical Asshole
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October 25th, 2006 at 02:57pm
Do you think it is important to vote?

Yes, because everyone should have a say in what will effect them

Have you voted before? And will you vote in future? Why?

No, I haven't voted before, as I'm only 14, but I deffo will, in the furture, as I wanna have a say in what happens in my own country

Do you feel that your vote makes a difference?
Yes. It's logical.

What can be done to influence more young people to vote?
People should be informed about why they should vote and what they are voting for
voice4mygeneration65
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October 30th, 2006 at 12:59pm
I am 18 and can vote in the upcoming election in 8 days. I am very politically oriented and plan to pursue politics in the future along with teaching history and political science.

ITMFA ::fuckoff