Westboro Baptist Church
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| I'm Not Okay90 Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 154 | The church runs numerous websites such as GodHatesFags.com, GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of homosexuality, Roman Catholics, Muslims and Jews, as well as populations it believes are supporting the aforementioned groups, including Chinese, Swedes, Canadians, Irish, British, Mexicans and Americans. They have also been seen dancing on the flags of these peoples' countries while picketing. Although well-known in LGBT communities for picketing gay pride events and funerals, the group achieved national notoriety for picketing funeral processions for soldiers killed in action during the Iraq War. Although the Church identifies itself as a Baptist Church, it is not apart of the Baptist Churches. The church bases its work around the belief expressed by its best known slogan and the address of its primary website, "God hates fags," and expresses the idea that every tragedy in the world is linked to homosexuality – specifically society's increasing tolerance and acceptance of the so-called "Homosexual Agenda." The group maintains that God hates homosexuals above all other kinds of "sinners" and that homosexuality should be a capital crime. They also have been know to picket signs that say "Thank God for Iowa's Whirlwinds", in which they state that Iowa has sinned and deserves all of the deaths. (Information from Wikipedia.com) I personally am against this, are you for or against the WBC? What are your views on these people? Admin edit: This video may help you get a better view. |
| Martha.Monster Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 173 | Personally, I Think That They Set A Terrible Example For Societys Youth. And Until It Actually Says In The Bible; "And Jesus Walked Up To Mark And Exclaimed "I Hate Fags!"" I Think That They Are Crazy  |
| Complication Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 152 | What's sad is it's not as uncommon as you would think to be that radical. |
| thank fsm. In The Murder Scene  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 20564 | What does you being Irish or German have to do with you being offended? |
| Saint of Misery Joining The Black Parade  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 181 | I find this very offensive, not only is it not patriotic but it's misrepresentation of Christianity. This is like saying God is an evil sadistic being that wants us all dead. I'm sorry but it's a little silly cause if he wants to kill all those Americans, aren't they American too? O_o I'm puzzled by these people's reasoning. |
| Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | Not to argue in their favor, but lack of patriotism isn't necessarily a bad thing. What is necessarily a bad thing is using faith to justify bigotry and hatred. I couldn't even make it through that video, and I'm already familliar with this group and their views. I doubt I'd see anything that would surprise me (although I hadn't "Fags Eat Poop" anywhere before this) but I couldn't watch it anymore, it still turns my stomach every time I see or hear it. Sure, they have every right to assemble and believe what they believe. But that doesn't make what they believe any less hateful. I guess the one bright thing about the situation is the number of people who think these people are crazy. Not that being hated by the masses necessarily makes someone wrong, but occasionally the masses are right about these things. [/pretentious] |
| IceHog69 Bulletproof Heart  Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 25232 | They have a very twisted view of what homosexuality, and being a 'fag' is. They are blaming every bad thing in the world on the fact that some people like what was it she said 'Up the back passage'... Their children are being seriously affected, and it is preventing them from having their own, sensible, opinions. It is one man's hatred, being projected across the world. It isn't backed up (really 'fags eat poop'? Princess Diana was gay?), but the kids believe it. And picketing the soldiers funerals is uncalled for. They are just doing their job. Their families do not need to see a fanatical Christian group picketing their father/son/brother/mother/sister/daughter's funeral. The scary thought though, is that they managed to convert someone and his family! |
| Tikva Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 60 Gender: Female Posts: 103 | Complication: Exactly. There are many people within churches everywhere who believe in very similar things, but just lack the courage to speak out. I should know, as I used to belong to churches who condemned homosexuality. Thankfully, I no longer do. |
| UndyingSoul. Really Not Okay  Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 722 | I am a Christian myself, and am appalled by such organizations. Jesus teaches us to love others, even if we do not agree with what they are doing. Its just sick that you could truly hate someone for something like that. |
| MistressRhi Motor Baby  Age: 40 Gender: Female Posts: 991 | i think that they are a cult and the more publicity we give them the more power they gain, laugh and forget them - it'll blow over in time karma is a mean mistress and she'll come and bite their asses |
| pye in the sky Jazz Hands  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 266 | there was a documentary on them on channel 4, i watched it all the way through and by then end of it i despised these people, every thing they stand for disgusts me. The fact that they demopnstrate at the funerals of american soldiers is sick. there isnt a place for people like that in this world. If there is a god, i doubt he would want these people spreading 'his word' or whatever and fred phelps is a hyprocrite |
| Be Brave Tonight Killjoy  Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 50 | i think its stupid to be honest it offends me alot, a question i want to ask is is this kind of thing the same as the muslim extremist stuff (saying that i want to get one thing clear i do not believe that all muslims are extremists) or college students that make hate websites against teachers? |
| Complication Fabulous Killjoy Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 152 | There's something I realised from these posts. Radicals on the left are heroes, but Radicals on the right are evil apparently. |
| Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | Well sure, if your morals point you more to the left, that's going to be true. Extremism on its own isn't a bad thing and it baffles me that so many people think it is. If it weren't for people who differed extremely from the norm in their political, social and moral views, we wouldn't have womens' suffrage, the Civil Rights movement never would have happened, entire countries might not even exist. You can't compare leftist and right wing extremists that way, because the only thing they have in common is that they're far from the center. That in itself isn't bad, so then we must look at their actual beliefs and actions, and people have to see how those measure up to what they're comfortable with. Given that most of the people on this board seem to lean more to the left, it's no surprise that no one seems to love a bunch of religious zealots who intrude on dead soldiers' funerals, brainwash their kids and have made hatred their lifes work. |
| Complication Fabulous Killjoy Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 152 | Don't forget leftist movements caused the wonderful Reign of Terror in France, while the Right Wing saved them! |
| Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | You know, politics isn't an all-or-nothing, black and white type thing, I don't know why you're acting like it is. Just because something falls under the category of "leftist" doesn't mean that all people who are on the left politically are going to agree with it. Actually, this is a perfect lead back into the original topic of the thread, because even most right-wingers seem to think that the WBC are a bunch of psychos. |
| xxZalanortxx Killjoy  Age: 28 Gender: Male Posts: 79 | I personally am not that fond of Christian Churches/Organizations, but particularly do not like the views demonstrated in the Baptist branch of their faith. I am surrounded by hard-headed rednecks who often go insane if anything is mentioned about homosexuality, evolution, global warming, vegetarianism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Uniterian Universalism, or anything challenging their narrow-minded views. As Obama has said "We are not the Democratic States of America. or the Republican States of America. We are the Unites States of America and most allways stay united!" We need to learn how to help stiffle these people's idiotic views without provoking agression from them. This is going to be hard. Oh why are the intelligent allways so peaceful and accepting of the terminally stupid. Huhhh......... |
| Cigarettes And Suicide Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 1725 | WBC's beliefs are not a true representation of Christianity. I don't mind what they preach or what they believe, as long as other people are aware that they are a minority when it comes to the Christian faith - the same as Muslim extremists/terrorists are not a true representation of Islam, which is a peaceful and benign religion. I may not like what the WBC has to say about anything (and it really ground my gears to hear that they were coming to Australia to make a big deal out of the Victorian bushfires earlier this year - saying that Australians are sinners and God was punishing us by killing innocent men, women and children in 'hellfire' or some other rot), but they have a right to believe what they want. That's fine, I won't be influenced by them, but as with all religions, I don't agree that it's okay to 'brainwash' their children into believing this kind of crap. If they were Neo-Nazis teaching their kids that Hitler was an awesome dude, they'd have their kids put in foster care, know what I mean? But, they feed on the attention the media gives them, and the subsequent outrage from society at large. I bet if we all ignored them, shrugged them off and said, 'Yeah, okay, we're all evil sinners and God can't wait to smite us' they'd crawl off into a hole and congratulate each other on how supremely sin-free and awesome they are. |
| Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099 | I'm Not Okay90: Don't those websites qualify as hate sites? |
| Green Faerie Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 2903 | I found a documentray that I watched about this 'church' very interesting indeed. I greatly felt sorry for the children, as they were clearly just repeating what they had heard their parents say as they couldn't explain what they meant. The documentary also showed one of their children being hit by something being thrown out of a passing car... This just shows how children shouldn't be involved in things like that. I felt so bad for those children, particularly the older children who showed interest in pursuing things outside of the group and were told pretty much that they didn't get much of a choice. I won't hate these people for what they do, as they are clearly just VERY misled, as is anyone that behaves in that manner. But the way they disrespect other people that they disagree with is despicable. |
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