Communisim
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Mr.Armstrong Awake and Unafraid Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 12135 | communisim is a form of government, But the government controls everything such as market prices,and is in charge of your bills, so you dont have to pay for them. But its under a dictator ship. Now america is anti communism, americans as other countrys such as United kingom,france,germany is under Capitalism which gives us rights to choose our leader. As you might heard in cuba (a communist country) there leader fedel castro (sp?) resigned from being leader for 30 years. And gave his leader ship to his brother. So now for the first time cuba is getting motor bikes,dvd players,and computers, now there getting legal cell phones (i assure you they are getting all this for the first time) but citizens of the country can hardly pay for any of these items, because the average salary is $19.50. and electricity is way outdated so what are you're thoughts on communism *are you against it or for it? *do you think it should be stopped *opinions?/facts? |
BangBang Baby Fabulous Killjoy Age: 102 Gender: Male Posts: 113 | i'm totally against it, you have no control of whats happening everything is dictation thats why cuba is so outdated with everything |
colin meloy. Bulletproof Heart Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 25006 | I can understand how people thought it was a good idea when it was first conceived, since there were all kinds of issues with the monarchies. People wouldn't have to worry about many of the costs of living, but they have no control over how they live, so it's a trade-off, I suppose. I wouldn't want to live in a communist country. That's not to say that I think America's government is perfect, but at least you have control over your job, your income, your home, etc. I'd be terribly miserable if I had to go to work everyday doing something that I really hated. It's also unfair in the sense that a doctor could be making the same amount of money as a cashier or something of the like. I think that if you want to put your time in and work hard, that you should be able to make more money than someone who is lazy and slacks off and blah blah blah. |
Radio Saturday Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 3513 | *are you against it or for it? Not really for it or against it. I think if it could work, the idea of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a pretty good one. Unfortunately, altruism quickly degenerates in a really ugly power grab. *do you think it should be stopped? I think if that's what the people in a country have chosen, then that's their bed to lie in. If, on the other hand, a communist government gets out of hand (i.e. trying to force communism on other countries by, say, invading them), then yes, that is a government that should be stopped. *opinions?/facts? I've pretty much already stated my opinion: If it could work, that would be great. Unfortunately, it tends not to except in very small groups, and even then, it doesn't always go so well -- the Pilgrims in New England tried a form of communal government, and that went belly-up pretty fast. So even when everyone has the same aims/ideals (pretty much), it doesn't often work. Basically, I'd say it's a pretty outdated idea, along with many of its offshoots/loose affiliates, like labor unions. The thing is, right now, we're living in an era heavily focussed on individualism. I think this is really good, so I tend to distrust vast government apparati as instruments of bringing this individualism to a halt. I don't like that at all, so I happen not to really agree with communism, in terms of an actual form of government. But I think if people want to keep trying to make communal lifestyles work, well... More power to them. I admire their faith in human nature, if nothing else. (I hope that made sense... ) |
Hellia Killjoy Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 55 | I'm against communism. Because Ukraine was under USSR for 70 years. I'm happy that we are independent for 17 years. And Stalin is the biggest evel. He killed people because of their persuasions. He destroyed a lot of good poets and writers . And under the communism all people was the same. We haven't personalityes. I just can't understand such people who think that communism is good. |
Mr.Armstrong Awake and Unafraid Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 12135 | ^ yeah russia was trying to make america under communism ,spearding the word... i personally am against it as ther person before said why should i have my income controled by someone else? i should choose to make the money i want. and how much i wanna make |
sir_pleb Jazz Hands Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 303 | Stalin's Russia fits four out five definitions of fasicism. The USSR may have been born out of communism but the only real similarity was the centralised market. Communism doesn't demand dictatorship, it's just that people in power get greedy, it's a trait necessary for them too actually seek power in the first place. Communism demands equality. Which doesn't happen, because people just aren't equal, some a fit, strong and intelligent and some aren't. It isn't that capitalists get to choose their leaders, that's democracy. Capitalism is the economic form of a country. Capitalist countries have a highly privatised market, meaning most business are not run by the government. The opposite being a communist market, where it's all run by the government. Also, your example is one sided. China is a communist country, and has one of the fastest growing economies. And nevetheless, I'd doubt that Cuba has the potential to be a major economic or diplomatic player on it's own. Unfortunately, as good as the idea is, people just aren't equal and there's always someone who 's ready to take advantage. |
DIE! DIE! DIE! Bleeding on the Floor Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 1067 | How communism ended up was a lot different then Marx's vision of it. I think the closest thing to that these days are the socialism governments in Europe, where the government really does work for the people to make sure everyone is as healthy and happy as possible. The communism we saw in the Soviet Union and that we see now in China is really Socialism gone fowl. |
morris bernard Killjoy Age: 45 Gender: Male Posts: 7 | communism will never work because every communist leader in the history of the world has been a bad one and most have abused that power to suppress their people in the name of communism. i hope one day china and cuba, and north korea end their communist rule and join the rest of the world |
Chantal Bleeding on the Floor Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 1015 | I am against communism. I don't think its a good idea for a government to control every aspect of the economy. I think the level of government involvement in an economy should be about owning collective goods and setting standards, health regulations, etc for businesses and such. |
Frankie-Oreo Salute You in Your Grave Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 2818 | communism CAN work, the leaders are just getting too greedy. communism was adopted in russia because the working class had nothing to lose. dont forget they used to be one of the worlds great superpowers and china is becoming one. hello trend? and america is fast losing its title of superpower. you cant force democracy on others. in some nations, it just cant work, for example robert mugabe, his country is a democratic country and look at it, all this talk of vote rigging. this may sound bad but some countries need communisim because the people just cant make their own decisions. in the second world war and after, stalin was trying to make other countries communist yes, but america was doing the same by pushing capitalism on everybody, this cant be a sound argument in the prosecution of stalin (even though he was an evil dictator babykiller) also, i am a marxist, i am strong in the rights for the working class and no people should have more than others who are undeserving, but that does not make me communist, because karl marx's idea of it, was far different to wat it was in the 20th century. communism worked for the better in the 19th century when marx first adopted it. |
Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | sir_pleb: All of this is important to remember. Technically communism is not a form of government; it's an economic system. This system can be applied within any form of government, or without (anarcho-communism.) It's true that every big application of communism has failed: China isn't truly communist, and honestly neither was the USSR. But was that really the fault of the economic system itself, or the people who got into control? Communism != dictatorship--it just often goes along with it in our experience--which is really the point I'm trying to get across. Just remember, it's quite possible to have a dictatorship without communism too. Personally, I put freedoms like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, etc. above economic freedom. While those weren't necessarily available in the incarnations of communism that come to mind (USSR, China, etc.) that doesn't necessarily mean that communism would necessarily prohibit those freedoms. |
Thug Life. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 1315 | I kinda agree with the idea in its initial conception. like communism was born in a time when there was alot of political unrest and people were looking for an alternative to monarchy or in germanys case a new government that couldnt handle running the country. the idea is beautiful. a communal society where everyone works together to better the nation, it sounds almost like a utopia. but the problem with communism is the human factor. we can never have a communist society that functions the way communism was intended do because most leaders who lead communist countries have their own agenda. dont be so quick do damn something that could of worked so well if not for the men who screwed up the plan. |
Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | Well I think it could work, just not on a huge scale. Same with true capitalism and anarchism, honestly. |
HEY AMY Salute You in Your Grave Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 3503 | i really dont think communism could work. i mean, in the past, it hasnt worked very well. look at stalin and trotsky. it just didnt work out. i dunno. i dont like the idea of everyone being told exactly what to do. hmm. i dunno. correct me if im wrong lol. |
Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | Everyone being told what to do is a dictatorship. Communism has been used with dictatorships before, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. Basically, communism means that you don't have economic freedoms--you can't get obscenely rich, you can't be obscenely poor--but it doesn't limit your social and political freedoms. |
HEY AMY Salute You in Your Grave Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 3503 | ^ ahh k. thanks for informing me hmm. then i reckon it could work... to an extent. |
King Of The Jews JR Jazz Hands Age: 34 Gender: Male Posts: 285 | Great idea on paper, But people dont wanna share... Plain and simple. I know i dont n.n But heck maybe in the future it may become popular. Depends on what the future is like |
the doctor. Always Born a Crime Age: 103 Gender: Female Posts: 5519 | Just to point it out, Communism is not necessarily a dictatorship. Its just that often a dictatorship is used with Communism. Communism is founded on equality. The idea is that people are equal and fair and that no-one it better or richer than anyone else. I personally think that its a good idea in theory, but when applied it just doesn't work. Some-one will have to own the businesses and take care of them, which will mean that they have more power than everyone else. They can also then manipulate their position to their advantage. e.g. Make all major businesses make arms and other weaponry to help them in a war |
Ignore Alien Orders Salute You in Your Grave Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2026 | King Of The Jews JR: What if a group of people who did want to share got together and put together a communist society, and anyone who decides they don't want to share has to leave? One of the biggest flaws in discussion on this is that a lot of the "communist" governments that have risen to power in recent decades have been dictatorships that forced everyone within a certain area of land to live within their system. A small group of people who did want to share, who operate using direct democracy and can "vote people off the island," so to speak, would eliminate a lot of those problems, yes? |
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