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sir_pleb
Jazz Hands
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 303 | September 22nd, 2008 at 07:04pm
Eponine:Well yes, but they often go hand in hand.
I can't imagine that someone could have an education and know absolutely nothing. If you're an educated person than I don't see how you wouldn't be intelligent.
Intelligent to some degree, yes. Past the GCSE years (over here at least, I can't pretend to know anything about the US school system) education becomes all about working hard. I spent most of my school life cruising along and got 6 B's at GCSE without any real effort. I got 2 D's at a-level because I just carried on cruising. Even all the teachers say that the grades you recieve are based on how much time you put in.
Intellectually I'd say that A-levels are no harder than GCSE's, just bigger. Even all my friends that have gone to uni say that it's no harder than their a-levels until the third year.
I'll admit that generally the guys who stayed on for a-level were smarter than those that didn't and those who have gone to uni are generally smarter than those who are retaking but then there are many who've gone on to uni who I'd say, without trying to be arrogant, just aren't as intelligent as me. Unless you're actually a borderline genius, intelligence isn't the deciding factor in education. |
demolitionloversmway
Thinking Happy Thoughts
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 562 | September 22nd, 2008 at 07:16pm its not wether people exactly think its helpful but the bottomline is if you want a good job in this day in age 99.9% of the time you need a highschool and college education |
Go fuck yourself
Devil's Got Your Number
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 37823 | September 22nd, 2008 at 08:18pm Ireland use to be like the shithole of Europe, it was considered like a "ghetto" place and was looked down by alot of other countries, but then they got this new dude running the place and he instated education, that country has made a complete turn-around (atleast from what my dad told me and he's almost 90% Irish)
Where I live is like the not-nice side of town next to the Mexican-boarder, I'm not trying to be racist but I can honestly say that most kids in my school don't take their education seriously. in sixth grade i remember there were only a handful of kids who would actually do thier homework, that had to actually hold special assembellies for students who turned in at least like 95% of thier work. my high school as a special Pregnant Minor Prgram, and their is quite afew students in it.
Now I'm not trying to bag or something, but to me, that is bullshit, considering how many children in other countries would love the oppertunities that kids in America are just tossing aside. I mean over I think 65% of american high schoolers don't know who the first 5 presidents were while kids in other countries can name them off the back of their hand |
Jeanne Paulin.
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 9905 | September 23rd, 2008 at 07:13am
i love going to school and education is a very huge part in my life.
and i really really want to go to a university sometime soon.
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Wolly-san
Fabulous Killjoy
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Posts: 101 | May 24th, 2011 at 09:14am My Dear Delirious:Ireland use to be like the shithole of Europe, it was considered like a "ghetto" place and was looked down by alot of other countries, but then they got this new dude running the place and he instated education, that country has made a complete turn-around (atleast from what my dad told me and he's almost 90% Irish)
Where I live is like the not-nice side of town next to the Mexican-boarder, I'm not trying to be racist but I can honestly say that most kids in my school don't take their education seriously. in sixth grade i remember there were only a handful of kids who would actually do thier homework, that had to actually hold special assembellies for students who turned in at least like 95% of thier work. my high school as a special Pregnant Minor Prgram, and their is quite afew students in it.
Now I'm not trying to bag or something, but to me, that is bullshit, considering how many children in other countries would love the oppertunities that kids in America are just tossing aside. I mean over I think 65% of american high schoolers don't know who the first 5 presidents were while kids in other countries can name them off the back of their hand
I agree with you, there are tons of guys in my ICT class that thinks it is OK to ditch or just mess around in all of their classes, it disgusts me that the fact that people who are less fortunate than us to have to pay for the education or not being able to afford it. Thats why I hate it when people miss school because they are supposedly 'ill', I dont think people should waste school time and if they do, the places and equipment should be given to people less fortunate.  |
Go fuck yourself
Devil's Got Your Number
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 37823 | June 1st, 2011 at 05:10pm I really believe in the power of education and enlightenment.
I come from the "bad ghetto" area. Here education generally isn't taken seriously, and that has what made this place so bad partly. People don't get the education they need, many people turn to drugs and gangs, they get involved with that, go to jail. They have kids they can't support, and the cycle just repeats. There is no reason for this to continue. I go to the bad school, people actually told me not to bother go to a University since I was from such a bad school, it didn't matter that I was top of my class or graduating a year early, only the fact that I came from the bad area.
You want to fix poverty, world hunger, terrorism etc, then you need a well educated population. Education promotes tolerance, people are able to provide for themselves. In downtown Detroit and the other "bad" parts around the city, 47% or about 210,000 grown adults are seen as illiterate. in San Diego, approximately 480,000 adults are considered illiterate. These adults who are illiterate have difficult getting a job and providing for themselves.
If you've seen the movie Waiting for Superman, they show the education problem in America. Our education system is falling behind and today many children aren't getting the education they need for college or for out int he real world, and this is a huge problem. This needs to be fixed, or as where I grew up shows, the cycle will continue and we will have our downfall. |
thank fsm.
In The Murder Scene
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 20564 | June 2nd, 2011 at 10:55pm Thanks for the film recommendation. I'll have a look. |
summertime
Fabulous Killjoy
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 102 | June 3rd, 2011 at 04:47am Education is just about passing exams. You don't learn anything useful for the future, you just learn exactly what's on the syllabus and then once you've done the exam you never use it again. It's really pointless. |
doctor.
In The Murder Scene
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Posts: 23302 | June 14th, 2011 at 04:21am summertime:Education is just about passing exams. You don't learn anything useful for the future, you just learn exactly what's on the syllabus and then once you've done the exam you never use it again. It's really pointless. Honestly, I completely disagree. I have to ask, what kind of career are you wanting to go into if you're never going to use anything you learnt at school again?
Education is completely valuable for so many reasons. Aside from the course content, you learn social skills that, if you spent the first 16 years of your life at home, you simply wouldn't have. It's the main place were most people form their first friendships and learn a lot from them. It also prepares you for the working world. You learn a discipline separate to the one your parents give you. You understand the rules you follow when it comes to being in the workplace and respect for those with higher status than you, for example, teachers. Being at work isn't too different to being at school and I think the school environment does a really good job in teaching pupils how to behave.
Yes, schools are about passing exams but passing exams are about knowledge. You have to have learnt something (or be awfully good at cramming) in order to pass your exams well. These are clear indicators to a perspective employer about what kind of worker you are. It means your employer can realise your educational strengths and weaknesses before even meeting you and realise if you have the skills they require for a job. For example, a basic level Mathematics and English are required for the majority of jobs.
I agree that some things at school it is likely you will never use again. For example, algebra. However, some people will use these skills in their various aspects of work. By learning them at an early age, it opens up your options when it comes to employment or further education.
I genuinely don't understand how you can possibly believe you have learnt nothing from schooling. I presume that you have an adequate (if not better) vocabulary that an education would have encouraged you with. I also would presume you were able to do simple maths and, from your post, I know you can spell, type and have a basic grasp on grammar. These are skills that an education has either directly taught you or encouraged. And, here you are, applying them outside of an educational establishment. Surely this means they were vaguely useful to you.
I also have just seen that you are from England. Can I ask what you plan to do after you have finished your GCSEs? Unless you have already finished. |
misa misa.
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 8241 | June 17th, 2011 at 11:25pm I've got to say that i agree with doctor.
While a lot of the time school can feel like just pointless exams it is teaching you skills you will actually need. Essays for example may be boring but they teach you like critical thought and how to develop an argument, which is important to most jobs.
And aren't we forgetting about all the skills you learn that you are not directly tested on? like social skills? |
cricket.
Patron Saint of Switchblade Fights
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 69728 | January 22nd, 2012 at 06:54pm
Sorry for bumping up this thread, but I had a rant that I felt would be appropriate.
I try not to think down on anybody, but I honestly sometimes feel like I am better than a lot of people for going to college. I know that sounds awful, but hear me out. If someone chooses to do something else with their life that doesn't require a college education (trade school, military, etc.) or wants to go to college but cannot afford it, then fine. The former is your choice, and at least you are being a productive member of society. If the latter is true, I still don't think I'm better, because at least you want to do something with your life.
Bottom line: If you don't want to further your education after high school, at least do something that will benefit society.
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malibu.
In the Cannibal Glow
Age: 30
Gender: -
Posts: 54114 | January 24th, 2012 at 09:21pm ^ I agree. I also agree with what Laura posted above, how school has a very big impact on your life.
School teaches you a lot of what you know right now. Not only education-wise, but socially and mentally too.
I went to a Christian private school for the first eight years of my school life, and it was one of the best experiences I've ever had.
It taught me to be open-minded (which a lot of people would debate) not only about religion, but to people that were different to me.
It taught me to be non-judgemental and to be kind to everyone. Since it was private, it also taught me how to be a lady.
To respect myself, to always use my manners. I wouldn't have learned things like that had I never gone to school.
But what Leila was saying above; I think everyone should be a productive member of society too.
I know of a lot of people that don't study or work, and use government benefits to get drunk or stoned, then give nothing back in return.
I think people like that are wrong. Everyone should always be striving to learn.
What's the point of living if you don't have a hobby and want to learn new things?
Not just university, but say you love cars - get a job at a mechanics store, slowly work your way up.
You'll be learning new things every day about the things you love, AND you're earing your own wages.
I think it's ignorant to say that education isn't useful for the future, when it teaches you basically everything you know. |
John St. John
Shotgun Sinner
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 7145 | February 27th, 2012 at 04:55pm Mellon Collie.:
Sorry for bumping up this thread, but I had a rant that I felt would be appropriate.
I try not to think down on anybody, but I honestly sometimes feel like I am better than a lot of people for going to college. I know that sounds awful, but hear me out. If someone chooses to do something else with their life that doesn't require a college education (trade school, military, etc.) or wants to go to college but cannot afford it, then fine. The former is your choice, and at least you are being a productive member of society. If the latter is true, I still don't think I'm better, because at least you want to do something with your life.
Bottom line: If you don't want to further your education after high school, at least do something that will benefit society.
My first thought when I read this, was that just because some people don't choose to go to university doesn't make them any less important. We still need people to do the so called "uneducated jobs" such as cleaners, dinnerladies, cashiers, ect. Every job is important and has a role to play in society. Sometimes, education just isn't for everyone. |
