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Radio
Killjoy
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August 21st, 2006 at 01:04pm
if someone choses to pose in the nude then thats their choice and i see it as a beautiful thing. (i mean the human body is just plain art in my opinion) but when people are forced to do it then its just wrong! no one should be forced to do something that makes them uncomfortable.
but taking a feminist side to porn: i think that when a female wants a model in that way it can be very liberating and give her power. but in some countries where girls and women are forced like i said before it is wrong and demeaning. but it you look at women like the suicide girls you see strong beautiful women doing somthing that they love. what can be wrong with that?
Kurtni
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August 24th, 2006 at 08:51pm
Pornographic Images can be alot more than how people like to view them as. I take extreme offense to alot of things people have said in this thread.

someone:
I think it's gross and I don't like it. for my religion it is wrong, it is profanity/ adultery.

Its a form of photography. Nude does not equal profane and obscene. If you think just because something is naked, it's grotesque and sick, you're wrong and need to look into art.

People see naked and automatically assume its sick perverted Porn. I'll agree, some porn is pretty sick IN MY OPINION but what I view as sick shouldnt effect anyone else.

Someone else:
Pornography is wrong in my opinion.
+It objectifies women
+It's immoral
+It's sickening
+And it gives the young 'ums wrong ideas

The world today is too "sexed up". I've seen ten year olds wishing they had the bodies of strippers. The way people dance on MTV these days doesn't help muche either. Everyone is so obsessed with sex. It's sad.

I'm currently worried about my fried Hannah (14). Her out-of-town boyfriend (16) wants to have sex. Hannah said she doesn't want to though. (Good girl, Hannah.) =)

But yeah. I've heard too many stories about girls younger than me in our school giving blow jobs and pretty selling them selves to guys. It's sad.

Child porn is even worse. >_<

"Some people say what I do isnt very femministic, but I think it's pretty liberating Getting 20,000$ for ten minutes."- Dita Von Teese

There is another common stereotype I'll point out while Im at it, that only women do porn. Wrong, but since they seem to be focused on, I'll discuss this. How does it objectifie women? That was a fairly vauge post. I'm assuming you mean (correct me if I misread what you typed) that it makes them seem like all they are good for is sex or whatever and that it's degrading to women, but it's their life. It's what they choose to do. Just because they happen to be naked while doing it does not make them objectified or useless. bettie Page is one of the most monumental people of the 40's and she tampered In Porn and Fetish modeling.

As for the thing about Children, parents, do they do anything anymore? The rest of the world shouldnt have to be censored due to impressionable children. Last Time I checked, Dita Didn't go around beating Children in the head with copies of Playboy making them read and act like that. Thats no reason to ban something. Music, Movies, Books, TV, all of that influences Children and no one is saying that needs to be done away with, because it doesnt. I do agree, on sites like this with a younger population, it's not needed, because it shouldnt be targeted at them, but thats no reason to degarde a whole form of art. (and Yes, I'm calling it art, Nude photography can be some of the best photography when done in a tasteful manor.)

As for the Child Porn issue, thats Illegal. Children are too young to decide what they want to do with their bodies and that is not legal with good cause.

Fetish Modeling is one form of Porn alot of people don't think about, but I look at it from the art aspect. It's vintage, taking fashion from the 30's- early 50's and turning into something somewhat different. Bettie Page, Sally Rands, Dita Von Teese, Catherine Delish, ect., I look at them as models. Just because they don't wear clothes all the time does not make them whores or bad people. It isnt like they are out there sleeping with 947608973526 different men every second and encouraging the youth to or something, They chose to do adult entertainment, thats their choice, not anyone elses. If you find something wrong with it, thats fine, but the rest of the world shouldnt have to bend over backwards and ban something so that some people may be happy.
Kurtni
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August 24th, 2006 at 08:57pm
frank_iero_rocks_my_world:
i think they should get rid of it beccause its a bit like prostitution (getting paid to take their clothes off) and its tears apart relasionships, take it from someone who knows. Sad


Prostitution is having Sex for money, not taking off your clothes. Prostitution is a whole different matter entirely that can lead to Human Trafficking and all kinds of things. Prostitution can Spread STD's and you can't get STD's from looking at a picture. Prostitution can lead to rape and other sex crimes, and pictures can't be raped. Prostitution isnt a plesant lifestyle to lead, and Porn is not softcore prostitution.

Explain to me how Porn tears apart relationships... I dont get what you're trying to say..
Citizens of Tomorrow
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August 24th, 2006 at 10:42pm
Radio:
when people are forced to do it then its just wrong! no one should be forced to do something that makes them uncomfortable.


the people who do it arent forced to, they just do it for the money and fame.

i just find it disgusting, but, like what many other people have said in here, its a person's choice to whether or not they want to watch it.
Belle_Muerte
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August 26th, 2006 at 07:24pm
I don't think you can demonize pornography because that demonizes sex, and as sex is a natural and key part of our society, to demonize it can only lead to self-loathing, and isn't that what everyone wants to avoid? We should, as a society, be ready and willing to accept that sex isn't bad, rather than look at it with some feeling that it is dirty.
Yara; wtf...
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August 26th, 2006 at 07:51pm
I did a search on www.google.com for "porn industry FAQ" and I found an awesome website that really talks about both pro's and con's.

(http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=369180)

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The page at
[ http://www.soapboxgirls.com/feb02/editorial/ ]
gives a second-hand account of a talk by USCB Film Studies professor
Constance Penley on the subject:
“Constance Penley began her talk with the following two facts:
- Porn is the only sector of the film industry in which women make
more money than men.
- There are a higher percentage of female directors, producers and
stars in the porn industry than in the “traditional” film sector.


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The biggest threat to the welfare of adult stars today, however, is
probably the threat of HIV infection, which simply wasn’t an issue 20
years ago. Although frequent testing is mandatory among actors and
actresses, more and more stars and producers are requiring the use of
condoms in scenes, such as described: [
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/061704_nw_condom_adult_films.html ]
Kurtni
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August 26th, 2006 at 10:48pm
Well, depending on what kind of porn you do, you do risk getting STD's. If adult entertainment is an industry you would want to be involved in, you have to take into consideration things like that, and set your limits as to what you're willing to do and what you're not.
dana eats dreams
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August 29th, 2006 at 07:33pm
I think that it's unneccesary.
...Why would it be needed in the first place?

I don't think that anyone needs it to survive, so therefore, I have no idea why it exsists today.
Yara; wtf...
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August 29th, 2006 at 08:54pm
TreehuggerxCore:
I think that it's unneccesary.
...Why would it be needed in the first place?

I don't think that anyone needs it to survive, so therefore, I have no idea why it exsists today.


Well that's not a very good argument.
Why do we need candy? Why do we need jewelry? Why do we need make up?

It's for pleasure. Physical and mental. There are A LOT of things mankind doesn't need to survive, but we also have a lot of things to make our lives easier, more fun and pleasurable.
dana eats dreams
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August 29th, 2006 at 09:32pm
I know. I wasn't arguing.
I'm just saying, I really don't understand why it exsists, and why they made it in the first place.
If I was to argue, I'd be writing alot.
Not just 3 sentence.

But you are right, though.

But I wasn't making a point out of that.
lana del rey.
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September 6th, 2006 at 09:24am
It really, doesn't bother me. My brother has load of it n his room, and i can manage to avoid it without distress.
lana del rey.
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September 6th, 2006 at 09:29am
I_worship_tre_Cool:
frank_iero_rocks_my_world:
i think they should get rid of it beccause its a bit like prostitution (getting paid to take their clothes off)


Prostitution is having Sex for money, not taking off your clothes.

Yeh but i know what she's saying. I mean they're getting Paid to have sex. Maybe the addition to the Taking their clothes off bit was not meant to be there, but in theory, it IS softcore prostitiution.

They are getting paid to have sex.
jonny krapuul
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September 6th, 2006 at 11:09am
You know there's some people who are so desperate just to know how it goes?I think it should excist,but if you don't want that,you shouldn't go on sites like that,or rent that type of videos or sh*t like that.I mean don't get me wrong,i don't like it either but some people do.
salmiakki
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September 6th, 2006 at 12:56pm
TreehuggerxCore:
I think that it's unneccesary.
...Why would it be needed in the first place?

I don't think that anyone needs it to survive, so therefore, I have no idea why it exsists today.


Most people enjoy masturbating, and when they do masturbate they often want to have something to get them in the right mood.

So they might make up a fantasy of their own or they'll use some external material, such as movies, pictures, or maybe a smutty slash story with Frank and Gerard getting intimate with eachother.
marla singer.
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September 7th, 2006 at 06:29am
Artistic nudity I have no problem with.
Child pornography IS WRONG.
It's sickening.
wills
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September 7th, 2006 at 06:58am
In response to Treehuggerxcore

Masturbation has its place in or out of a relationship, it is dependant on what kind of force you are putting behind it. Enjoyment comes in different ways with ponography an escape route from reality! In a simple magazine pose you create the fantasy with live action you are joining in the fun??? In a relationship where you may find yourself being turned on & do not wish to turn away from the action, the elimation of process to enjoyment is only a hand away. What can bring more pleasure to the involvement is a 'sponge like shape' of sexual organs.

The rule is simple where a line of pornography must not be crossed, but it is an integral part of growing up & will continue whether people like it or not. A ban would push it further underground & could lead to more depraved images being sort & be bring far more danger when trying to search it out?
whitney.
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September 8th, 2006 at 10:54am
Hm...Depends on the TYPE of porn.
If it's little kid's and 40 year old men are watching it for the pleasure of it, then that is very wrong.
Although, it's natural that a guy wants to be turned on and stuff, so if it's just women/men over 18, that is totally fine. It's like, whatever, go and watch porn
Razorblade Kisses
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September 12th, 2006 at 05:30pm
Im not against porn in fact I think its cool and I watch porn sometimes its normal and I don't think its sick. And besides you can learn stuff by watching porn haha. Now, child pornography is WRONG!
DeadlyPoisoned
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September 12th, 2006 at 09:07pm
I have nothing against pornography..
I've watched it a few times.
There are a lot of people who watch pornography...So I have nothing against it like someone said its their decision.But I respect some of your other wishes to.
Springfield
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September 13th, 2006 at 07:34am
well... porn isnt exactly good. but i see nothing truly wrong with it. like some people said, the body is like art. But the type of porn where people have sex....thats pretty much prostitution if u think about it. they are being paid to have sex. and they are showing people. I was brought up taught that your BODY is like TEMPLE and you shouldnt violate it in anyway. which to mother meant... no tattoos and no pierceing and wut not. but eh... showing off your body just to make a thousand 12 year olds horny isnt right i dont think. plus its also kinda slutty. But body is art and im not gonna go any deeper than that.