Global Warming

So called 'greenhouse gases' make up a tiny tiny percentage of the earth's atmosphere, hardly enough to be changing the worold, all by themselves.

In the last 10,000 years, the warmest periods were before humans began producing CO2.

A more recent example. In your theory, the more carbon dioxide people are producing, the higher the temperature rises, yes? Well then explain how this happened:

Before 1940, the temperature rose, but after 1940, during the post-war economic boom, when much much more CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) was produced, the temperature...went down.

If greenhouse warming were happening, then scientists predict that the troposphere (the layer of the earth's atmosphere roughly 10-15km above us) should heat up faster than the surface of the planet, but data collected from satellites and weather balloons doesn't seem to support this.

There is also evidence to show that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere lags behind the global temperature, showing it cannot possibly be the cause of it.

Solar activity is far more likely to be the cause of climate change.

reference = Channel 4's the Great Global Warming Swindle

i actually watched the Al Gore movie about Global Warming earlier this year.
first off, i have never like Global Warming. i have heard it was bad.
after i saw the movie, i actually found out what it was and what its doing to the environment.
I AM STILL AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING.
i know i am a human being but i think...no i know, that we are responsible for it.
we burn too much fossil fuels, and that puts more carbon dioxide into our air supply. cutting down trees also releases a huge amount of CO2 also. if we keep burning more fuel than needed, and cutting down trees to build "industry", there will be more CO2 in the atmosphere...now where will our oxygen be?

we must stop Global Warming from getting even more out of control.

(Welcome to INO by the way)

The thing is, you've only seen one side of the argument. Are you just going to dismiss a load of scientific FACT because you've heard one argument better than the other?

people think that they can stop global warming but they can't. no matter what they do its not gonna happen. the only way i think global warming is gonna stop is if people stop useing soooooooo much of our earth's natural resours (lkie thats ever gonna happen). global warmings never going to stop. the only way it will stop is all the earth's natural resorus are gone, the ice caps melt and a giant hole is in the ozone! i think the first thing that should be done is that the Hummer compine needs to stop makeing cars that only get 7mph! than the earth will slowly recover from waht enviermental hazerds have done to it!

I do not really believe in Global Warming =/ Even if it is true, there is not really anything we can do to fix it.

how can you not believe in it? have you not seen whats going on in the world around you?

Frankie-Oreo:

how can you not believe in it? have you not seen whats going on in the world around you?

I agree, you can't not believe in global warming, its fact. Its whetehr or not its caused by humans that is debatable, in my opinion.

I am skeptical about global warming.

Apparently we have been causing it for 100 years since the industrial revolution...

But what about the millions of years that this wasn't occuring...the world was hot, the world was ice, the world had dinosaurs, the world didn't have dinosaurs....get the gist?

Scientists get it wrong all the time.

But I do think all of the changes we are seeing in regards to the environment are a good thing.

Oh and the drought in Australia happening at the moment isn't the first and it won't be the last. I don't think this is caused by global warming. It is called the weather...there was a drought in Australia from 1900-50....not so long ago.

i would just say to everyone that has seen the 'inconveniant truth' dont take it at face value. their is scientific research that directly contradicts Gore's arguments. such as the CO2 effetcts temp graph, where actually its entirely the opposite way round.

This is weird im doing a project on it for english. i have to write a piece of Argumentative writing to persuade people to do something about it. Back to the point. I think that there are reasons for and against it.
Some people could argue that we are destroying our world and we must cut down on fuels,gases used etc.
Others may argue that it is actually mother nature that is creating the greenhouse gases etc. because mother nature is doing its part. I think we may be able to help to prevent global warming but i dont think we can totally prevent it.
Thats just my opinion :]

Princess Tinkerbell:

So called 'greenhouse gases' make up a tiny tiny percentage of the earth's atmosphere, hardly enough to be changing the worold, all by themselves.

In the last 10,000 years, the warmest periods were before humans began producing CO2.

A more recent example. In your theory, the more carbon dioxide people are producing, the higher the temperature rises, yes? Well then explain how this happened:

Before 1940, the temperature rose, but after 1940, during the post-war economic boom, when much much more CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) was produced, the temperature...went down.

If greenhouse warming were happening, then scientists predict that the troposphere (the layer of the earth's atmosphere roughly 10-15km above us) should heat up faster than the surface of the planet, but data collected from satellites and weather balloons doesn't seem to support this.

There is also evidence to show that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere lags behind the global temperature, showing it cannot possibly be the cause of it.

Solar activity is far more likely to be the cause of climate change.

reference = Channel 4's the Great Global Warming Swindle

According to the NRDC, "the 10 hottest years on record have all occured since 1990". Humans are dumping 24 BILLION tons of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere every year. It only accounts for a small percentage of atmospheric makeup, but that percentage has increased in the last 100 years.

Perhaps it is human nature to try to find fault in everything else, but I must say you are exeedingly ignorant on this topic. Channel 4 is not a good choice for a source. Fox News might be more reliable (please note the sarcasm). In addition, where I have provided factual information, until your last post you circumnavigated retaliation in kind with opinions and excuses; not an effective tactic, I might add. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but to be ignorant by choice is laughable. I sympathize with you.

^ Yes, channel four isn't alays the best source but I actually found the documentary in question to be quite factual.

Secondly, none of this had been proven or disproved, so you simply can't treat it as complete fact either way. Yes, points in the documentary were factual. It's also true that we are increasing the amount of CO2 we produce. It's effect, is in question.

Thirdly, the records don't go back very far. The earth goes through warm periods and ice ages; we're still coming out of one. To have records of times that should be hotter than it is now, you would have to go back before human existence. See my point?

Fourthly, you're also being ignorant by choice. Clearly, you haven't even begun to think about any other arguments or beliefs other than you own.

Personally, I disagree with you, but I accept I may be wong. However, even if we are making some impact to global warming, I very much doubt it's anywhere near as terrible as many people would have you believe.
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Princess Tinkerbell:

I don't believe that global warming is caused by humans.

I believe it is part of a natural cycle of the earth. I think that if we try and stop it, we could run into worse problems.

I also think that the government is brainwashing people in England. (I don't know about other places..) We have to learn about global warming in biology as part of our GCSE syllabus. But the thing is, the book is based on opinion when it comes to this topic. The book blames humans for global warming, and dictates that we should be stopping it. But there's another side to the story, another theory, a theory that it is a natural occurence. Only the book doesn't publish or even acknowledge that theory, because the government doesn't want us to know that its new greeen taxes might be irrelevant.

Global warming is something that is natural. Humans should not try and change nature, they could cause more problems.

That really is an excellent point. See, it can work both ways. If we have been causng it, which currently hasn't been proven or disproved, excess intervention could lead to much worse problems.

I honestly believe some people need to open their minds a little. There are two sides to every story, yet they are perfectly willing to believe the one forced on them by the government and media they accuse of being so terrible. Ironic, no?

Everyone is entitled to have their own belief on this subject and I'm not asking people to change it, but seeing as it isn't proven fact, I'm asking that you at least consider other arguments before ranting. At least that way you can be assured of making an informed choice on what to believe and help others.
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It's not that I do not acknowledge that there are other points of view, it's that so far I have been shown no physical evidence that effectively proves that we are not destroying our planet.

Even if we are not causing global warming, we're still killing our planet in other ways. Whether I believe it to be the cause of global warming or our own greed and stupidity is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

Where I am I heard that within 2 generations the average temperature would be 100 degrees year round. And I live in Illinois. They also mentioned a few other areas in different states. Is that not scary?

ByeHalyconDays:

Theres a giant hole in the ozone over the south pole. Thats not climate change that's globe warming.

Holes in the ozone layer are caused by CFCs (Which are no longer a major problem). Not by carbon emmisions which people believe are the cause of "Global Warming" (Though I personally believe "Global Warming" to be a natural change on earth. I watched the channel 4 programme about it aswell, and people just seem to ignore the facts of what people have been pointing out)
But yeah, I don't think there's really a problem. It's all happening naturally, not by humans. Sooner or later the climate will revert back to normal, and possibly there will be another Ice Age. You can't really tell about these things...

(The quote is from page 1 by the way)

I'm not ignoring it, or denying it exists. It clearly does. It's just it isn't caused by humans.. It's a natural event, and nothing can be done to prevent it or slow it down..