Smashing Pumpkins

Damn it . . .again I typed something up and it disappeared. sigh . . .well here it goes again. i feel crazy kind of typing up these long messages lol but i have years of pumpkins conversations stored up in my head that i finally get to chat about (like i have said other pumpkins boards scared me too much to post there) coupled with my new obssession with MCR and the desire to talk about them equals way too much to say.

silverrain:

And about any publicity measures: I’ve got the same impression that the whole thing is rather self-promoting.
…and yep I also agree that Billy’s messages and his holding contact with the fans through the internet (I guess the Pumpkins and their whole fan community were one of the first making intensive use of the internet) contribute to keep it interesting.
I wonder if MCR have ever done or planning to do something similar…but it seems that they want to keep away from interacting with their fans on the internet (like Gerard sad he preferred staying in a bubble in order to keep his feet on the ground, which is understandable).

I think you are right the pumpkins where one of the first bands to create this open dialogue view the internet with their fans. in fact, i remember back in the summer of 2000 the story of machina was slowly posted via the internet and they had an online essay contest for fans to try and figure out the story.

I know I was able to access the original MCR website and they did some blogging via the website but it was mainly about how touring was going and upcoming shows. There were some funny posts though. I think it was Ray who maintained the posts and managed the message board but i got the impression he didn't really enjoy it because he didn't feel he was good at it and plus, after awhile he really didn't have time to do it.

I seriously doubt at this point in time the band will use the internet to communicate. And I think Gerard is smart from staying away from the internet especially because I get the impression he wants to try an stay a normal as possible. In fact, I found this really great quote from Gerard.

" For the new people, I really ask them to look into the band, but don't even go by what you read on message boards. The internet is a really evil place. Go by what you hear on the CD and what you see live. That's really all there is to it. And when you meet us in person, if we have the time, and it's a safe condition in which to talk to you, then we'll always try and make that time, and maybe you'll find out a little bit more about the band that way. But the best way to find out about the band and make assumptions is by listening to that CD because it's all right there."

Even though I am here on a MCR messageboard (i am not really here to "gossip" about the band per se . . . lol although I will read the gossip but i know not to take most of it seriously. . .I will explain later why i am here), I totally get what he is saying though.

I think the pumpkins/billy use the internet to have an open forum between them and the fans and between the fans themselves has a lot do with the demographics that make up pumpkins fans. (I am not putting down the demographics of MCR fans in anyway shape or form but it is a different group of people . . .and different does mean bad ) Does this make sense? I think Billy realizes the importance and the relationship that his community of fans has and the bond between them. Plus, it is a direct way to communicate with your fans. Although, I have heard people claim that the reason Billy using the internet and such is to validate his on ego but i kind of doubt this. I have heard rumour that Billy used to post on the o-board and he was rumoured to have kept his eye on netphoria. In fact, he did instruct TPQ to visit Netphoria and reach out to them which she did do but got driven away by stupid people.

In addition, I complete agree that it does make MCR stronger in a sense that they rely so much on each other. I think in the beginning the pumpkins did to but for some reason i still do think they were ever a cohesive unit as MCR. I also agree that D'arcy was probably the emotional center of the band that kept them all glued to each other but when she started falling into her own dispair and becoming more self-involved that it led to the complete undoing of the band.

Now that I think about it . . . I remember hearing something similar about Billy telling Melissa what here role in the band was going to be which I agree is disturbing. However, if you look at the women Billy has surrounded himself with since (Linda Strawberry and Tila Tequila) then I could kind of see that. Sigh . . .but Billy should have have more respect of the band and of Melissa as a muscian and a human being for that matter and I hope he does.

Okay . . . last point of the night . . .about offering to send you the veiuphoria kind of ties into why I am here on a messageboard. (You are welcome btw). I really missed being part of online fan community. Back in the day I was a regular on the pumpkins o-board and loved the fact that people from all over the world came to share and partake in something that had moved them and affected them to the core. To me it is always very personal to share my favorite music, it is like giving someone a piece of your soul. It made me feel like we were and are here to celebrate the sharing of each other souls (god, this is sounding cheesy and a bit out there). I mean how awesome is it that you live in Europe, I live in America (although I am very, very ashamed to admit that), there are people on here from Australia . . . you name it they are here. It makes the world/the human experience not seem so different or small. It's amazing to the think the pumpkinsand MCR have touched people all over the world. Plus, I love getting different perspectives of people who live all over not just in my slice of the world.

As for wanting to share vieuphoria, another part that I loved about the pumpkins o-board is the sense of the music/band was for the whole community to enjoy. I remember when Machina II came out the only way to get a copy was for someone to burn you one and very few people had the music to burn. So those lucky enough to have a copy, put out a call on the o-boards (and netphoria too) saying if people emailed them and sent them postage they would burn a copy and send it to them. That's how i got my copy for some random fan on a messageboard. Right before the pumpkins played their final show at the metro, this guy put up a message saying if people sent him $20 he would get them a t-shirt at the final show. So I sent some guy I didn't know $20 in the faith that he would send me a shirt and he did. (Although,they eventually did go on to sell the same shirts sold at the last show online, atleast i know mine came from the last show ) But I think the biggest thing that showed the strength of the community is remember they had that online essay contest on the official website/message board. the winner of the essay contest got tickets and backstage passes to the final pumpkins show. the person that won the contest lived either in europe or australia (i can't remember) couldn't go so they gave away those prized tickets to another fan on the o-board for free (instead of making a shit ton of money by selling them on ebay). So basically i took the long way of saying i miss having that sense of sharing and community and do think the music should be enjoyed by all. To me the pumpkins represent to different experiences . . . the one i get through the music and the other experience from being able to share in that music with other people. and i hope that it can be the same w/ MCR cause MCR definately have that soul shaking quality that makes you want to expereince it with others.

okay . . .i know my spelling and grammar have probably gotten worse as the night has worn on . . .if you all have made it this far, thanks so much for reading!!!!! please don't feel like you have to comment on everything i have written.

Awww…you’re new avatar!

Wow again… thanks ever so much fort he link. You’re really a sweetheart.

I had totally forgotten about the things he said about the recording of SD, as I can remember having read this part of the confessions. This was also one of the passages I enjoyed most reading because it gives some inside information about the working together of the band. But this also makes me being sure that it really was SD and not Mellon Collie (on Mellon Collie you even have one of James’ songs in which he is doing the lead vocals) of which Billy was supposed to have played all the instruments himself (especially also because, at least as far as I know, the personal affairs in which D’arcy and James were involved had to do with them breaking up as a couple…and this had been between the Gish and SD albums, hadn’t it?), in fact it now has become clear that it have actually been him, Jimmy and the producer Butch Vig who worked on the recording process together. And I have to agree with you…this makes me also optimistic about the ongoing new album, although I also agree that without the original members the Pumpkins will never be THE Pumpkins again.
…well this passage shows the relationships within the band…as I remember that Billy said it had always been him and Jimmy on the one side (who were very close)…and D’arcy and James on the other side. It shows the tensions between him as the main songwriter and James’ ambitions as a songwriter. And I can also remember this quote by Billy saying about himself and D’arcy that he and she were always looking in the same direction but never completely in snyc.
There’s three other Billy-quotes I’ve found on netphoria:

"We weren't like mates who decided to form a band. The other three met me because they were interested in being in the band that I was starting." (okay if this is not huge self-confidence (or ego!?) then I don’t know…)

"There's a lot of chemistry in the band that the outside world could never witness. In our band, D'arcy is the moral conscience -- it's really hard to do something if D'arcy thinks its fucked."

"As we've gotten older, it's the diversity among us that's made us more of a compete entity. We're not like an untuned motor anymore."

I like what you said about the concepts of the albums being landscapes…I think this is the best way to describe it.
Which colours I do associate with each (oh this is more difficult to describe as I thought, because it’s more that I associate moods like in a painting…umm I try…Gish is like being black and red (Goth style), Siamese Dream: yellow, greyish-green, greyish-blue, silver, Mellon Collie: dark blue with tiny bright stars sprinkled on it, Adore: black (mostly), dark brown and silver, about Machina I+II I’m not sure at the moment: transparent (as rain or water in general, or glass?)…I’m not sure if this makes any sense at all…

“Anger, love, loss, and acceptance of that loss”, yes this is really what Adore is about. Though the actual personal things that may stand behind these concepts (as e.g. the loss of Billy’s mother) are quite different from what my experiences had been, the emotions are universal. So I completely understand what you mean with the bonds music can create between people even if they are scattered all over the globe. It’s like there is no one who cares or understands your feelings and pain or fears and you feel completely awkward and locked out and then finally you stumble over a piece of music or a line of lyrics that expresses and explains exactly what’s going on in your own mind…even though those people may lead different lives, maybe on a different continent and have their own experiences you’ll never know, they are the same like you…and you’re not a weirdo or freak anymore…and it’s the same with sharing a common passion with other fans (wow…that you you’ve got a t-shirt directly from the very last show!)

As we’re just talking about it: at first I was quite sure that it would only be a matter of time till we’d get the metro-DVD. Then I thought maybe Billy dropped it because he didn’t want to let his past interfere with his new projects. And now after all this time…I’m not sure. What are the arguments why it’s not been released yet?

I’ve to admit something similar that I didn’t care much about MCR until the release of TBP. I had seen their Helena-, I’m not okay- and The Ghost you-vids before on T.V. and I liked it, but they somehow didn’t trigger me to listen to their whole albums. Then I saw the WTTBP and was like wtf this is such an obvious copying! It was like with Christina Aguilera’s Fighter-video (which is very good, but the style is such an imitation). On the other side, I enjoyed the WTTBP-vid immediately, and maybe if I were a musician, I would do the same (orienting myself towards my idols). So it were actually the Pumpkins-references that made me nosy to hear more…

Okay, what else that I wanted to say: Oh, please, don’t be ashamed for being American! This is not what I was aiming to. All those Europeans who lump all Americans together could be ashamed for being ignorant as well. I did some courses on American literature and culture at uni and we once had an exchange Prof who was also apologizing for being American before she started with her lecture. That’s made me so embarrassed too, because she was such an intelligent lecturer. Criticism may be justified, but there is no reason for devaluating American culture as a whole as some people do (including my English boss during my 3-month work experience in Ipswich, who was wondering about studying something like “American literature”; I think it was just because he had never cared, so I tried diplomatically to persuade him of the opposite…hope it has worked a bit ). In fact, authors like Henry James or Toni Morrison did so much for modern literature and who wants to live without American music?!

At last: I’m glad to hear that you’re finally back to life after the split up with your boyfriend…this must have been a tough time going through.

Cheers

PS some good old gossip at the end: who are Linda Strawberry and Tila Tequila, by the way? And is it true that Billy is not with Yelena Yemchuk (not sure about the spelling) anymore?….I thought they made such a gorgeous couple.

Hello Silverrain and all the other Pumpkinheads out there who I know are lurking lol!

Let's get to the fun stuff first. . . the gossip you asked about. As far as I know him and Yelena have been done for quite some time now which is a shame because I agree they made an incredible looking couple. She seemed so right for him.

Linda Strawberry actually performed with them on a song or two at the last two Pumpkins shows in 2000. She also toured with Billy during his tour for the Future Embrace. I really don't have an opinion on her to be honest. The big thing that happened with her is someone found some nude pics of her and posted them all over the place and she got super upset. I don't think Billy ever dated her but it kind of goes with that whole "shut up and look pretty" thing. She kept a blog about the tour on her website which isn't working at the moment. She seemed a nice enough girl. And she must have some musical talent if Billy asked her to tour. So here is her myspace page: (Sorry I haven't taken the time to learn how to do direct links but I will soon)

http://www.myspace.com/strawberry


And now for the trainwreck that is Tila Tequila. I am not sure what Billy's involvement is/was with her or why he even associated with her. LOL I tried not to follow this one. I don't know that he dated her either.

http://www.myspace.com/tilatequila

Hopefully, you ears still function after being assulted with her song upon first opening the page lol. I've heard rumour that he was dating this or that porn star (LOL) but who knows. Let's hope we don't ever have to endure a Billy sex tape lol.

Hmmm....I wished we could find that info about SD cause I am going to have to say I know you are so right about Billy playing most of the instruments (I take back what I said about it possibly being MCIS) I haven't had time to read through anymore of the confessions.

I really liked the quotes you found. I think those definately show insight to the dynamic of them as how we the fans perceive them and how things were. Kind of goes along what we were saying that they never seemed to be one cohesive unit like MCR.

Ya know now that I brought of the metro DVD . . . I can't rememer the specific arguements as to why it hasn't been released yet and i can't find them doing a search on netphoria. I will find though . . . soon. I think some people had said it was actually the record coming was the one in the stopping the release. Nobody seems to know who actual owns the footage . . . or at least I haven't heard who owns the footage. There were rumours that it was going to come out last year but it didn't and then I read somewhere several years ago that it was suppose to come out in the summer of 2007. I am starting to give up hope I honestly don't know why it was never released. Maybe you were right . . . . at the time, Billy didn't want to live in the shadow of the Pumpkins and wanted to keep that performance special to the band and to those that were there. But now with the reforming of the pumpkins, I really don't know. I mean there are two songs from the Metro show on the video collection DVD. I guess that gets lumped into the mystery of why 2007 was mentioned on PI.

I liked your color descriptions of the albums. The definately made sense to me . . .

Oh, I knew you weren't aiming at that with your comment about America. And I know shouldn' t say I am ashamed to be an American . . .I am should say I am ashamed at what our leaders are doing and how most of the country is being passive about it (although EVERYONE i know is outraged). I still one day would like to get back to your comment about artists and poltical views.

silverrain:

In fact, authors like Henry James or Toni Morrison did so much for modern literature and who wants to live without American music?!

I heart Henry James!!! My fav professor was a Henry James expert. LOL and yes, I guess one of the reasons we are convening here is American music. Although, I would love to be exposed to more music from around the globe.

Well . . . I should go now cause it's my Saturday to work (and open the library). Atleast Saturday's aren't too bad. I usually only get cussed out once by patrons on Saturday. Oh, the joys of working in a public library

Have a good day Silverrain and everyone else! Spread the Pumpkin Love (And the MCR Craze??? MCR Passion??? will have to think on that one)!


PS. Glad you like the Advator!

Hi porcelinajune …and also hi to everyone else: don’t feel like we two are occupying this thread and you have to hide somewhere in the back, but please join us whenever you like

…a Billy porn *lol* oh heaven forbid…that I won’t have to see this in my old days…but who knows maybe he has talent
But Miss Strawberry, now I know who she is again…oh well, I honestly have a memory like a sieve.
…and Miss Tequila…I couldn’t hear anything right now as I had a look at her mySpace ( I don’t know if I missed something, but I just trust Billy that he was not completely led by his hormones )

This reminds me of someone asking why his bass players always have to be hot chicks (I mean if you also consider Paz Lenchantin who played in Zwan)…umm…it’s a justified question…who knows about his hidden motives…
Although, to set the record straight all three are clearly more than just good-looking babes and definitely deserve respect, especially if you compare the number of women who made it in music biz with the number of men.

At least I thought Yelena was a woman who could kick his ass…

Yeah, would be interesting to find out more about the truth behind the SD-album. Maybe it’s really somewhere in his confessions. Now that I have the link (thanks again!), I’m looking forward reading more stuff....as soon as I stumble over something I'll tell you.

I’m sure there must be a recording of the whole Metro-show: Like you said, there are two tracks on the video-collection-dvd.
What if the Pumpkin Queen is begging for it in the name of all of Billy's “beautiful souls” dying to see it?

Okay that’s it for today. I better go to bed now...feel a little bit sick right now...maybe I've eaten something that's not doing me good anyway

Have a relaxing Sunday porcelinajune and all you pumpkins lovers out there.

PS Oh well, I guess lots of profs (mine too) have a passion for Henry James. He’s really hard stuff to get into at first, but it’s worth the effort. I had an exchange lecturer from Columbia university in one of my basic courses. She was probably only three or four years older than we were and somehow knew how to interest people (at least me) in giving him a try. Anyone who wants to know more about literature and all who are thinking about becoming authors themselves can learn so much from him. But I guess I don’t have to tell you this.
PPS Umm...I don't know maybe it's because of English as being the global language that bands from the U.S., Canada, the UK&Ireland or Australia are so overwhelmingly successful... on the other side the music scene here in Germany for example is rather boring on the whole (at least in my opinion), though there are exceptions.

the smashing pumpkins are just so....... cool!
does any1 know if they've got a new album comin out? xXx

cool you like them
and yes the new album is probably coming out in April. If you read through the previous pages, you'll find some more info

Yeah, someone else who likes the Pumpkins. I know, I so hope it really is April for the release!!!! I hope the informatin is correct. I listened to all of MCIS today and I swear every emotion a person could feel in their life is represented musically and lyrically in the album.

Hey, Silverrain. I will reply to your post tomorrow. I miss not writing/exchanging ideas about the pumpkins already and it's been like a day lol.

I have a good question. It is a multipart question really.

1. Does anyone know if MCR have ever covered any Smashing Pumpkins songs on stage? Although, they really don't seem like the type of people to sing someone elses songs (except for the Christmas one).

2. If MCR was to cover a pumpkins song which one/ones do you think they would cover on stage (this isn't your own personal choice but what you think MCR personally would want to cover) and why?

3. What song of the pumpkins would you personally want to hear MCR to sing and why?

4. What song would you want to hear the newly reformed pumpkins sing live?

Have a great Monday! I know must of us in the USA are off for the holiday today.

This….is a tough one, porcelinajune…

I have to further think about that, but here are my first ideas:

1. I can’t answer this question, but would be interesting to know…

2. I’m not sure where I’ve read this or if I’m just making this up now, but I think Gerard has said something about “Thru The Eyes Of Ruby” (does anyone know something about this?)

But I can also picture them doing “Here Is No Why”. I’ve found a revealing interpretation of this song on wikipedia that already tells what I wanted to say:
“The phrase, and the song, describes the mindset of people who simply live their lives without questioning their existence, It is believed that the song is describing teenagers as such.”
Additionally, the rock star in make up-allusions would fit and would make the song a very ironic statement for MCR.

I also think of “Muzzle”, because it’s such an emotional blast…and in its ambivalence towards life and its exuberant ending it reminds me a bit of FLW.

“Bullet With Butterfly Wings”: obviously the vampire motif…(the WTTBP-video reminds of the pumpkins-vid)

“Behold! The Nightmare”: the mood reminds me of the TBP-album.

“We’re Only Come Out At Night”…don’t know…perhaps a funny encore.

3. ummm…”Muzzle” (see above) must think about some others…

4. oh well…so many…if I have to choose one I’d really like to see them perform, then "Silverfuck" (or "I Am One"?!)…arrhg can’t decide

Okay...I'm also interested in hearing more ideas from you guys

porcelinajune:

1. Does anyone know if MCR have ever covered any Smashing Pumpkins songs on stage? Although, they really don't seem like the type of people to sing someone elses songs (except for the Christmas one).

2. If MCR was to cover a pumpkins song which one/ones do you think they would cover on stage (this isn't your own personal choice but what you think MCR personally would want to cover) and why?

3. What song of the pumpkins would you personally want to hear MCR to sing and why?

4. What song would you want to hear the newly reformed pumpkins sing live?

1. They haven't, unfortunately. Like you said, they're not really the type of band to play covers on stage.

2. I think they would do 'Today', as I've heard Gerard go on about how it's his favourite song, and his favourite video of all time.

3. silverrain brought up Here Is No Why, and now I have it in my head. So right now I'd like to hear MCR cover it since it's the only song I can think of xD

4. I'm just going to sit on the fence here and say any song - I think I'd be too excited to finally see them live then to be too bothered what they actually play. Anything off SD other than the usual singles would be quite orgasmic.

=]

cant wait for the new albim 2 cum out!!!! i hope its good! xXx

Lik Loathing.:

2. I think they would do 'Today', as I've heard Gerard go on about how it's his favourite song, and his favourite video of all time.

oh yeah another good one...
....I don't know if I'm just hearing things, but I always find the guitars at the end of 'Sleep' reminiscient of those at the beginning of 'Today'.

Ahhh, SP. Reminds me of my childhood, because my mom would always have on the alt-rock radio stations (like G106.3 if you're from Jersey) and so I grew up listening to them... First music video I ever saw was a Smashing Pumpkins video. I was like, 6 or 7 years old. I instantly had the biggest, top secret crush ever on Billy Corgan. (several years later, it manifested into an attraction toward Gerard.. >.> )

I think I can imagine MCR covering "Bodies"... though, I agree on "Here Is No Why". That would make me grin.

Hello out there in Pumpkinland. Well, if I ever have a kid, I hope they will like the Pumpkins too and not think me and the Pumpkins are over the hill lol.

Okay now to answer my own questions but I love the answers everyone has already given and I think I was thinking along the same lines.

1.

Lik Loathing.:

1. They haven't, unfortunately. Like you said, they're not really the type of band to play covers on stage.

I didn't think they probably had but just thought I would ask. Thanks for answering Lik Loathing!

2. It is kind of hard narrowing the list down. I definately think that Today is on the list because I too have read that is both Gerard and Mikey's favorite song/video. Plus, there is something about the sound of Today that I think the band can pull off.

silverrain:

I’m not sure where I’ve read this or if I’m just making this up now, but I think Gerard has said something about “Thru The Eyes Of Ruby” (does anyone know something about this?)

I read this interview too!!! But I'll be damned if I can find it again. I know he reference this song as one of the influences on The Black Parade. I could see them doing this song but changing it up to fit their style more.

Here are my choices for what I think they would chose to play but I think I am going to do it by album.

Gish: Siva cause it has that raw energy that the guys seem to have/love.

Simease Dream: Today for reasons stated above, Rocket because the lyrics seem to embody some of the messages MCR are trying to commnicate with the world

Pisces Iscariot: Hmmm . . . I really don't know if there is something on here that the guys would actually do.

MCIS: Silverrain, I was so thinking the same thing about Here Is No Why , Muzzle, and BWBW and for the exact same reasons! I think I am also going to add Fuck You (an ode to no one) and x.y.u. to the list. I think the guys would do these to because it would be such an emotional release and both these songs are so intense. I could see Frank going crazy during these songs and I could see him helping Gerard scream on these songs.

Adore: Again, Silverrain, I think you are right about Behold! The Nightmare. It is very Black Paradeish.

Machina I and II: I doubt it would ever happen but I am going to have to go with Glass and the Ghost Children . .. .there is just something dark about that I can see MCR embracing. Plus, the very beginning of Sleep with the sound bites of Gerard talking sounds a lot like parts of this song. Also, think Glass' Theme from Machina II

silverrain:

....I don't know if I'm just hearing things, but I always find the guitars at the end of 'Sleep' reminiscient of those at the beginning of 'Today'.

I listened to Sleep today just see if I could catch this and I can totally see what you are saying. It isn't exact but it has that same sort of structure.

3. My personal choices of what I would want to hear them play.

Gish: Siva for reasons stated above but also I know this is totally too much information but when Billy sings the lines "Tell me, tell me what you're after
I just want to get there faster" it turns me on such much that I think I would just explode/melt at the same time to hear our dear Gee sing it.

Simease Dream: Hummer just cause it is such a powerful song and Rocket, Today for again reasons stated above.

Picses Iscariot: Hello Kitty Kat cause I think this could be a playful song for them to sing but there sometihng about this song that reminds me of Gerard, something he would want to say

MCIS: all the songs mentioned above especially Muzzle, plus Porcelina of the Vast Oceans cause it is such a beautiful song and again I know i probably going to hell so to hear Gerard sing the word Porcelina would be enough taste of heaven for me to last. lol But I know they would never to do this song cause I have heard Gerard mention how they are not a jam band and this song is definately in that style . . . it was totally made for just spur of the moment jamming out.

Adore: not really sure Crestfallen? Shame?

Machina I and II: Age of Innocence cause that song makes my heart happy

4. Mayonaise cause it is my favorite song of all time. I also agree with Silverfuck cause Billy aways gets so intense during that song and they never play it the same way twice. Starla cause it so damn beautiful.

chaos.:

[I could just imagine Gerard in the ice cream truck like Billy in the Today video.
Singing up a storm. Hahaha.[/size]

LOL That's a great image. I normally dont' trust ice cream from ice cream trucks but I would DEFINATELY buy any type of ice cream those two were selling.

So yeah, I think that is it. I haven't come across any good Pumpkins news.
Take care everyone and think happy pumpkin thoughts

theteenagebrigade:

Ahhh, SP. Reminds me of my childhood, because my mom would always have on the alt-rock radio stations (like G106.3 if you're from Jersey) and so I grew up listening to them... First music video I ever saw was a Smashing Pumpkins videoI think I can imagine MCR covering "Bodies"... though, I agree on "Here Is No Why". That would make me grin.

OMG alt rock radio station?! Where’s my youth gone?
…but I wish my parents had a taste in music like your mom and chaos’dad.

Oh, and I’ve thought about Bodies too.

theteenagebrigade:

I was like, 6 or 7 years old. I instantly had the biggest, top secret crush ever on Billy Corgan. (several years later, it manifested into an attraction toward Gerard.. >.> )

I see what you mean

Hey porcelinajune (hope you had a relaxing day?)

Rocket…this was also one of my options. It could be possible that I’ve even read this interview in which Gerard mentions Thru The Eyes Of Ruby on this board…okay at least I didn’t just dream it…

And cool you’ve recognized the similarities between Sleep and Today too, although you’re right it isn’t exactly the same.
And I agree with what you’ve said about Glass and the Ghost Children. I would really like know what MCR would actually think of our theories…

Siva is really one of the most amazing songs I’ve ever heard, so I know what you mean.
And Hello Kitty Kat…can’t say how often I was listening to this song…:

“…my love is weakness
my love is oh so wrong
my love is sadness
my love is oh so strong
my teeth are razor sharp
my back is fucking strong
i'll be with you
but not for long…”

But it’s interesting what you’ve said. What is it exactly that does remind you of Gerard?


After I had thought about Behold! The Nightmare, the song got stuck in my head yesterday and thinking about MCR the following line came to mind:
“….so may you come with your own knives, you'll never take me alive…”

MCR & Pumpkin love to everyone
*rushes and buys anti-wrinkle cream*

^^
at myself
I've just recognized "alt-rock" is alternative rock of course (in German the abbreviation Alt (=old)-rock refers to rock oldies...)

any 1 no wat the new album is like? xXx

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any 1 no wat the new album is like? xXx

Unfortunately, no one really has any idea. All we know is that it has lots of loud guitars and well that is really it and that it could sound like early pumpkins stuff. All this secrecy/anticipation is dring me nuts lol!

Hey Silverrain,

silverrain:

Rocket…this was also one of my options. It could be possible that I’ve even read this interview in which Gerard mentions Thru The Eyes Of Ruby on this board…okay at least I didn’t just dream it…

It is driving me crazy cause I can not find this interview. I have found like five other interviews where Gerard talks about the pumpkins and even one where he says Melon Collie was huge influence on TBP but nothing mentiong this song. Damn, I will find it for us lol

I too would like to know what My Chem think of our theories . . . I wonder how close we are to being correct. I bet we are pretty on target. Maybe if one of us ever meets them and has the ability to actually speak we could ask lol (although, I sometimes to don't want to meet people I look up to/admire/love cause I am always afraid I will be disappointed and will be ruin a good thing . . . that happened with Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day)

Hmmm. . . I think Hello Kitty Kat reminds me of Gerard because it sounds like something that would be on Bullets, there is something about Billy's voice that sounds like Gerard's, and I really think it is this line right here that makes me think of Gerard:

"i don't wanna be like the others, please" I don't know . . .maybe it's just me that thinks this lol

Well yes much pumpkin love and MCR happines to all



PS. LOL silverrain, I think I am right behind you on buying the anti-wrinkle cream . . .cause I actually remember loving billy when he had hair.

silverrain:

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I've just recognized "alt-rock" is alternative rock of course (in German the abbreviation Alt (=old)-rock refers to rock oldies...)

LOL although someone did see the video for 1979 on the VH1 Classics channel . . .I hope not cause that would be sad if it is a classic already!