Anarchy

Jenni has a life:

She didn't say you were an anarchist because of a trend.

And two: I think you are only comparing goverment, to the way America runs the country- look up other type of goverments; communism, socialism, democracy, monarchy. Point is, without order and structure, countries would be doomed to mayham and destruction.

well seeing as how most countries are doomed to mayhem and destruction anyways................

well we can all dream of having this ideal world but seriously it isn't gonna happen anytime soon so instead of dreaming about it and just saying their thoughts they should start taking some action. if you are in a country and you are legally aloud to vote but simply choose not to i believe you have no right to complain because you forfeited your right when you decided not to vote. voting is your most basic way to have a say in who you want to be your leader.

while most governement and leaders are not dieal for the way most people want there country to be heading, if we simply didn't have leaders we would be worse off, you may think this would be better but in reality it would result in chaos, death and destruction.

just because you don't have faith in your leader at the moment and don't agree with their beliefs etc doesn't mean you should go hide in a hole til someone better comes along, go learn about the polticial system, learn about the different politicians and decide for yourself which ones you support then do just that support them, encourgae others to support them.

everyone has a voice it is time we started using them.

Without some form of Government or laws, screwed up or not, there would be chaos in the streets.
People would be getting beat up and murdered daily and no-one could do anything about it because there would be no Government to make laws so everything would be perfectly legal.
Not good. There are people who will take advantage of that. I disagree with a lot of the Government's ideas, but that's what you vote for - to make your voice heard. Use your vote, not violence. And if you don't vote even though you legally can, you have no right to complain about the Government because you did nothing to try to change it.

My friend is a true anarchist, her father is an anarchist as well. (hints: why she is an anarchist). It dosen't really bother me all that much, she dose have very.very stronge view on the government, ECT.. She dose read on anarcy a lot and seems to know it to a tee.
but i personally dont dont agree with anarchy. but thats just me..

Social Suicide:

I've got it sort out from the last time I was here.

my view on Anarchy is that if we have it for a few weeks, maybe even months our (as in where I live...) government will start to listen. Not all the people have a say in what goes on. If we did, even teens could vote. But we can't until we're 18, so we all don't have a say. Also, we wouldn't have the electoral college if we all had a say.

I do like the fact of no rules/laws. sometimes they ruin fun, like they do for everyone. Sometimes I just want to live life and lay back. No school, not having to wake up for work, ect.
The part of anarchy with "we feel pain - we must be alive" I believe. We all need pain to know we're alive or else it'd be extremely weird not feeling any sort of pain - physical or mental.

But if no one went to school, then how would anyone be smart?
If no one work up for work, how would anything get done?

Drop dead: Gorgeous.:

such as there being the abolishment of money.
If there was no money, no one would be poor, there wouldn't be was much pregidous, disputes,
troubles, etc

the world runs on money. you basically said that.
If we had no work than we wouldn't have money.

also I basically meant not having to go when you didn't want to.
There are times when I do want to go to school just to get away from my home. everyone wants to get away sometimes from work and school also, so if we just didn't have to go when we didn't want to.

sorry for not saying that before.

If America (or any other country) was based upon Anarchy it would be like the West in America around the 1700's.

People would get shot, raped, and crime rate would skyrocket.

People would have no money or REAL jobs.

So Anarchy wouldn't work.

Idealistically nice but logically couldn't work do to the fact that chaos would rule supreme. Bad chaos.

Social Suicide:

my view on Anarchy is that if we have it for a few weeks, maybe even months our (as in where I live...) government will start to listen.

Your post made sense and all, but, if you're at the point where your country's in actual, pure anarchy, wouldn't the government be pretty much...gone? Because if there's true anarchy, then there's no form of government except anarchy.

Do you see what I'm saying?

On your first point- Yes.
Rape is not about sex, rape is about control, it's about dominating the person under you, and making them beg for mercy. The drive to rape is almost all mental, and has to do with how someone was raised, or how someones personality is. It has nothing to do with laws. Same with murder. But that's a different conversation.

People think anarchism is chaos, because Anarchism IS chaos.

sawa:

if there were no laws telling you not to murder or rape someone would you go and kill and rape people?

Even though there are laws, do people still go out and rape and murder people? Yes they do, so the fact that there are no laws would make it so much easier for them, and so much harder for the families of the victims to accept.

sawa:

if there is no money as wealth is evenly distributed why would you steal off someone ?

Why do people steal money anyway? To survive, to pay off debts, to pay for addictions... There are all sorts of reasons, and to some people it won't matter whether the person they are stealing from is richer or poorer than them, as long as they profit from it in some way.

sawa:

i really cant comprehend why people think anarchism= chaos

Because anarchy is all about having no rules, no control over anything that happens in society. No control and no rules means people do whatever they want, whenever they want and there is complete chaos.

sawa:

why should a goverment decide how you should live your life "morality" is perspective

The government don't decide how you should live your life, they put in place measures to try and protect everyone in the country. If you don't agree with the current government, that is what you vote for, to change it and make the country better, not worse off.

Jenni has a life:

People think anarchism is chaos, because Anarchism IS chaos.

She's right. That's one of four (I think that's the right number) definitions in the dictionary for anarchy. Look it up.

but if what you want is just no rules, basically that's just being a Punk - rebelling against law. It's still there, you just don't follow it. If you're Punk that doesn't mean you want anarchy. Not all Punks do. They just want to be different than everyone else.

Ghetto--Superstar:

sawa:

if there were no laws telling you not to murder or rape someone would you go and kill and rape people?

Even though there are laws, do people still go out and rape and murder people? Yes they do, so the fact that there are no laws would make it so much easier for them, and so much harder for the families of the victims to accept.

sawa:

if there is no money as wealth is evenly distributed why would you steal off someone ?

Why do people steal money anyway? To survive, to pay off debts, to pay for addictions... There are all sorts of reasons, and to some people it won't matter whether the person they are stealing from is richer or poorer than them, as long as they profit from it in some way.

sawa:

i really cant comprehend why people think anarchism= chaos

Because anarchy is all about having no rules, no control over anything that happens in society. No control and no rules means people do whatever they want, whenever they want and there is complete chaos.

sawa:

why should a goverment decide how you should live your life "morality" is perspective

The government don't decide how you should live your life, they put in place measures to try and protect everyone in the country. If you don't agree with the current government, that is what you vote for, to change it and make the country better, not worse off.

people dont murder and rape people unprovoked or without reason. so yus people do murder and rape even with laws so therefore punnishing people isnt much of a detterant. but surely as humans are intelligent most people think it unproductive to kill people and would therefore not. but those that do kill and rape people its their choice and punishing them doesnt do anything for families appart from vengence which id say is pretty old fashioned.

yus people steal money to survive but if they have enough "wealth" to survive and feed adictions then surely there is little need for them to steal. if wealth is shared out then then who would you owe debts to as anarchism generally supports the ideal of abolishing money

anarchism is about self imposed governance therefore there is order . you dont need a hierarchial society to have order.
the goverment put restrictions on how you should live, what you can do, what you can say, what you can know. protect people from what? themselves surely sercurity isnt as important as freedom . well you see you tend to vote for a government and seeing as anarchism entail lack of rulers it would be a little hypocritical for me to vote when i am old enough which should be next election. What diffence does it make to vote all the main parties are centre-right or worse they are essentially the same in all of relevence whether its the conservatives the lib dems, or labour. an essentially 3 party system because of sponsers in a representive "democracy" means there is little choice