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John St. John Shotgun Sinner Age: 31 Gender: Male Posts: 7145	December 23rd, 2008 at 06:36am Stupidsadistic;: My next door neighbor is a registered sex offender, and I do find it repulsive. In fact, when he comes to visit us I stay in my room. It does scare me a lot as well, and I fine Paedophilia to be wrong. Watching shows like Steve Wilkos or something like that just kills me, it literally brings me to tears. When I watch shows like that, I try to ensure I dont use them for actual reference when thinking about this kind of thing. I think they choose the most ovewr the top people they can find, i dont think its really all that accurate.
The Original Bob. Demolition Lover Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 16672	December 24th, 2008 at 05:13pm My Excluded Romance: all i know is that people like this r fucked up and need their genatalia cut off, better yet, to b blown off by a remington 12 gauge......yup i think that would change a lot of peoples mind sets. these people also need some serious help I think that's a little bit overdramatic.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 83 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	January 2nd, 2009 at 08:29am A Friendly Reminder: I think that peds should get the death penalty. I don't usually wish that upon anyone, but a ped should get it. You don't mess with a child. Even in jail, if you were put in there for molesting a child, the guy in your cell will probably kill you. Its not right at all. You don't mess with children. interpol.: ^^ Paedo's should think about that before they commit their crime though. Guys, I think we need to be more clear on the definition of Paedophilia. Paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children. This does not necessarily mean that the person has committed a crime. A pedophile could just have the attraction, but never act on it. What if they are disgusted with themselves? They hated themselves for these urges that they have? What if they never acted on these impulses? I'm not trying to defend them, I personally find pedophiles to be mentally disturbed and sick. I just wanted to clear that up.
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 2nd, 2009 at 12:54pm Lovesick Melody.: Paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children. This does not necessarily mean that the person has committed a crime. A pedophile could just have the attraction, but never act on it. The likelihood that a pedophile will NEVER take action is very, very slim, and not really a risk I'd want to take anyway. An Average Mistake: My Excluded Romance: ...people like this..need their genatalia cut off, better yet...blown off by a remington 12 gauge. I think that's a little bit overdramatic. I don't.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 83 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	January 2nd, 2009 at 06:45pm Deb: The likelihood that a pedophile will NEVER take action is very, very slim, and not really a risk I'd want to take anyway. Not a risk I'd like to take either. But we have to keep in mind that not all pedophiles have committed a crime. We can't regard all pedophiles as the same.
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 2nd, 2009 at 08:01pm Lovesick Melody.: But we have to keep in mind that not all pedophiles have committed a crime. We can't regard all pedophiles as the same. It feels wrong to me to wait until some poor child's life has been turned upside down forever forever before we can take action against this sort of person. If we have caught them in possession of kiddie porn, we should be able to put their asses away in my opinion.
Tallulah Admin Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 16777215	January 2nd, 2009 at 08:19pm Possessing child porn is enough for a conviction and to be placed on the sex offenders register in the UK. Is it different in the US? is honestly ignorant to international laws but wants to learn
tabitha Bleeding on the Floor Age: 45 Gender: Female Posts: 1831	January 2nd, 2009 at 10:31pm ^^ It's the same; possession of child porn is enough to warrant jail time and placement on a sex offenders list in the US as well. There's a zero-tolerance policy for it.
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 83 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	January 2nd, 2009 at 11:16pm Deb: It feels wrong to me to wait until some poor child's life has been turned upside down forever forever before we can take action against this sort of person. If we have caught them in possession of kiddie porn, we should be able to put their asses away in my opinion. But that could be applied to anything. I might feel that someone in my street is a thread to me. Let's say I think he could be capable of murder. Does that mean he gets put away? No, he did nothing wrong. I agree, if they are in possession of kiddie porn then they should go straight to jail. But if they have no sexual material that involves children, and have done no sexual activities with children, we don't have the right to simply take action against a deed that hasn't been done.
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 3rd, 2009 at 01:04am Lovesick Melody.: But if they have no sexual material that involves children, and have done no sexual activities with children, we don't have the right to simply take action against a deed that hasn't been done. But we wouldn't take action in that case, because we are not the thought police - we have no idea what is going on in someone's head!
Lovesick Melody. Bulletproof Heart Age: 83 Gender: Female Posts: 25760	January 3rd, 2009 at 04:32am Deb: But we wouldn't take action in that case, because we are not the thought police - we have no idea what is going on in someone's head! Exactely! Everyone is saying that pedophiles should be shot/jailed/punished/killed. However, there are pedophiles who do nothing with the urges they have. They do not act on them. Therefore we cannot group all pedophiles together. There are pedophiles who act on their impulses, and their are pedophiles who never do anything.
Jenny. Moderator Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 19720	January 3rd, 2009 at 09:21am I have to say I agree with Lovesick Melody in this one. I believe that it's wrong, but if they do not act on their impulses, there's nothing we can do. It's like putting someone in prison for thinking about stealing something...
Mindfuck Always Born a Crime Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614	January 3rd, 2009 at 08:04pm Call me crazy, but I kind if get annoyed when I hear people wanting to genuinely shoot, torture or maim pedophiles. I don't like pedophilia and I do not condone it, but a part of me feels sorry for them. And no, that wasn't a typo. I believe a lot of pedophiles know what they think and / or do is wrong, and I also believe that a lot of them cannot control their urges. I'm not saying that is right, but there is a part of me that has compassion for people who know they're thinking the wrong kind of thoughts but also have those urges overcome them. I think there should be more support for people like pedophiles. Yes, support. Because I believe that people who know what is wrong with them can be helped if there is help for them. So many people just want to shoot them, but perhaps if there was more support, we could help them before they actually act on those pedophiliac thoughts and hurt a child, or children. I do believe that people who are caught with child pornography or who have actually sexually abused a child or children should be punished. But I still stand by my opinion that we should try and offer support for people who may not have committed any crime but still have urges.
K.K. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 28 Gender: Female Posts: 1787	January 4th, 2009 at 08:59am Mindfuck: Call me crazy, but I kind if get annoyed when I hear people wanting to genuinely shoot, torture or maim pedophiles. I don't like pedophilia and I do not condone it, but a part of me feels sorry for them. And no, that wasn't a typo. I believe a lot of pedophiles know what they think and / or do is wrong, and I also believe that a lot of them cannot control their urges. I'm not saying that is right, but there is a part of me that has compassion for people who know they're thinking the wrong kind of thoughts but also have those urges overcome them. I think there should be more support for people like pedophiles. Yes, support. Because I believe that people who know what is wrong with them can be helped if there is help for them. So many people just want to shoot them, but perhaps if there was more support, we could help them before they actually act on those pedophiliac thoughts and hurt a child, or children. I do believe that people who are caught with child pornography or who have actually sexually abused a child or children should be punished. But I still stand by my opinion that we should try and offer support for people who may not have committed any crime but still have urges. I agree with you. If pedolphiles weren't being supressed the way they are now or if we had proper help for people with such urges, maybe they'd come out and seek help, before sexually abusing an innocent child.
Sid Salute You in Your Grave Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 2065	January 10th, 2009 at 11:05pm Maybe if I ever have kids I'll think about this differently but I seriously think it should be treated as a mental illness for which they should seek or be given or be forced to have professional help. Sticking some one in prison for possessing child porn won't stop the person wanting to do it, it'll just put them somewhere for a while until they come out. It's a really really messed up thing to have in your head, I know that, but some of these people may have been abused themselves when they were younger or had serious issues growing up. They need to be treated like anyone else with a mental disorder because like Mindfuck said, I'm pretty sure they don't want to be feeling and thinking this way and how can they stop unless they get some kind of help?
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 11th, 2009 at 11:05am Lovesick Melody.: ...there are pedophiles who do nothing with the urges they have. They do not act on them. I still don't believe that, and furthermore, we wouldn't know about it if such a person existed. We can't read people's thoughts, and such people do not openly discuss them. Mindfuck: I believe a lot of pedophiles know what they think and / or do is wrong, and I also believe that a lot of them cannot control their urges. I'm not saying that is right, but there is a part of me that has compassion for people who know they're thinking the wrong kind of thoughts but also have those urges overcome them. I believe that people who know what is wrong with them can be helped if there is help for them, but perhaps if there was more support, we could help them before they actually act on those pedophiliac thoughts and hurt a child, or children. You wouldn't feel so sorry for them if they ruined the life of a child that you love, and yes, they are usually victims themselves who were never helped. They know they're wrong, alright, just as a rapist or murderer knows they are wrong, but this doesn't stop them from committing the act nonetheless. They don't tend to seek help before doing so, that's the problem. tear: If pedolphiles weren't being supressed the way they are now or if we had proper help for people with such urges, maybe they'd come out and seek help, before sexually abusing an innocent child. Explain, please? How are pedophiles being suppressed? We can't acknowledge the behavior as acceptable or legal, so we're not going to provide outlets for them.
Sid Salute You in Your Grave Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 2065	January 11th, 2009 at 11:18am But perhaps they don't seek help because there isn't anywhere for them to go. Even talking to a therapist or something would probably be extremely hard. There should be some kind of confidential place for them to go with people professonally trained in that area.
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 11th, 2009 at 07:38pm Crystal Castles: But perhaps they don't seek help because there isn't anywhere for them to go. Even talking to a therapist or something would probably be extremely hard. There should be some kind of confidential place for them to go with people professonally trained in that area. Yeah, assuming that the person is willing to overcome the stigma of discussing the very thing that has screwed up their minds their entire lives, that would be very ideal, I agree. The psychological profession, even now, a full twenty years after I abandoned it in digust, has just not made the strides it should have and there just aren't any effective studies out there providing real insight into how a pedophile's mind works and how to fix it. Hell, they can't even fix the standard diseases they've known about for decades. Their solution is to put everyone on drugs and hope for the best, or otherwise to lock them up. In the case of the pedophile, I'd rather it be Option B, where they can do no damage to any more innocents.
Mindfuck Always Born a Crime Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614	January 11th, 2009 at 08:14pm Deb: You wouldn't feel so sorry for them if they ruined the life of a child that you love, and yes, they are usually victims themselves who were never helped. They know they're wrong, alright, just as a rapist or murderer knows they are wrong, but this doesn't stop them from committing the act nonetheless. They don't tend to seek help before doing so, that's the problem. But I specifically said I wasn't talking about pedophiles that had already sexually abused a child, I was talking about people who are aware of what they feel and think towards children but have not acted on those urges. And yes, those people do exist. A pedophile doesn't just start out being a pedophile from the second they are born, it is a gradual thing that they become aware of as their life unfolds. I understand that people do go on to commit sexual abuse on young children - and I do not agree with that - but all I was suggesting that if there was help for them to overcome what they feel and think, then as a community we should be supporting them to take help. I wouldn't know how to treat a pedophile because I am not a psychologist, but all I was doing was proposing a different point of view other than "KILL THEM ALL!!!111!!!".
Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099	January 12th, 2009 at 10:02am Mindfuck: But I specifically said I wasn't talking about pedophiles that had already sexually abused a child. And yes, those people do exist. A pedophile doesn't just start out being a pedophile from the second they are born, it is a gradual thing that they become aware of as their life unfolds. I understand that people do go on to commit sexual abuse on young children - and I do not agree with that - but all I was suggesting that if there was help for them to overcome what they feel and think, then as a community we should be supporting them to take help...all I was doing was proposing a different point of view other than "KILL THEM ALL!!!111!!!". The parties for whom I have no human sympathy ARE the ones who have already hurt a child, and I'll thank you to kindly not insult my intelligence by skewing my views into some sort of teenie-type rant. As a mother, I can tell you right now that anyone who laid a hand on my boy would be residing at the bottom of a river in pieces, and I would gladly hold out my hands for the cuffs afterward. As I have repeatedly stated in here, we have absolutely no way of knowing what is floating around inside someone else's head. The only true means of prevention of which I am aware is to secure proper counseling for the young victims - virtually all child abusers are themselves victims who were never helped; the cycle remains unbroken. I will go out on a limb once again in here by suggesting that the likelihood of a pedophile having such thoughts but never acting upon them is slim, because by the time they have reached that point in their minds they are already pretty beyond help - most experts do NOT believe that these people can be rehabilitated, and that is why they do their best to ensure that they are carefully tracked for the remainder of their lives. Pedophilia is NOT a sexual preference, it is a propulsion toward violence, like all other forms of rape. The onset of this aberration is not a gradual progression; it's an angry reaction against the world for what happened to them and an assumption of power on their part by victimizing others similarly to themselves. It's a very twisted perspective, and while I do have sympathy for the child that they once were, I no longer have any left for them once they have themselves become the predator.

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