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Cigarettes And Suicide
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November 19th, 2008 at 04:14pm
tabitha:
People abuse prescription drugs, but why withhold pain medication from people who truly need it?

Tooootally unrelated and about as far off-topic as can be, but in certain parts of Australia, cold and flu medications containing pseudoephedrine have been completely banned because the government doesn't want speed cooks getting their hands on it anymore.
Which is ridiculous, because now I have to suffer through the disgusting effects of a cold without much help from anything, all because a tiny majority of people are so greedy they have to ruin things for everyone else.

Just one example of how banning something in order to 'protect' a certain minority, has a huge effect on the normal majority, and is highly unfair to 98% of people (and don't think for a second that drug gangs won't find other ways to import pseudoephedrine, they still get their product somehow but us law-abiding members of the community are expected to suffer in our sinuses).
make some noise;
Jazz Hands
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November 19th, 2008 at 07:08pm
First off, I'd like to make it clear that I don't strongly oppose pornography of any kind, nor do I want it gone for the pure fact that it objectifies women. It's fine [to me, at least,] that it's there, I don't really care, I was just raising a couple points on why I don't agree with it at all. I know it's another one of those 'no one's forcing you to look at porn, so leave it be' situations. I'm one of those people who has trouble leaving things alone, as I'm sure you've all figured out by now. If women want to have random strangers looking at every curve of their body, that's fine with me, I'm just stating that I personally think it's not needed. I do see all the points made, and for the record, I don't find sex 'dirty' at all; it's a part of life.
[and incedentally enough, I've heard porn refered to as the 'adult's balloon' once; forget where.]
Mindfuck- as to what I think people would do if porn was made illegal- I think everyone would still find ways to look at it, just as they do with drugs.
Person0001
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November 20th, 2008 at 11:25am
Beautiful Tragedy.:
I don't strongly oppose pornography of any kind, nor do I want it gone for the pure fact that it objectifies women. It's fine [to me, at least,] that it's there, I don't really care, I was just raising a couple points on why I don't agree with it at all. If women want to have random strangers looking at every curve of their body, that's fine with me, I'm just stating that I personally think it's not needed.
I think that you are a reasonably open-minded person for a strong Christian, however, I've noticed that you contradict yourself quite a bit. On the one hand, you state that you are unopposed to pornography, yet on the other, you state that you disagree with it and find its existence unnecessary.

Perhaps in questioning your faith you are confusing yourself a little, hence the contradictory viewpoints? I realize that most conventional religion demands that its practitioners follow its teachings to the letter and impose huge guilt and threat of eternal damnation upon those who do not, however, that can be chalked up to the usual elderly fear of change.

The reality is that our world has changed and is changing still, whether we want it to or not, and we can either adapt to or hide from it, but we cannot prevent it. I think it's fine for you to have views separate from your upbringing, but embrace them, don't be ashamed of them.

As far as what other women (and men - don't forget men!) choose to do with their bodies, whether it's related to pornography, abortion, drugs or self-harm, at the end of the day, that is their choice and their choice alone to make, and judging does nothing but alienate that person (not to mention setting one's own self up for the favor to be returned,) and why do so? If the person is dissatisfied with their choices in life, it is up to them to seek out a new reality, and if they are satisfied, who are any of us to order them not to be simply because their choices are not choices that we ourselves would make?

I don't think that anyone can successfully argue that the existence of pornography and prositution in and of themselves wreak harm upon society, as it they have existed since time immemorial in every society, and no doubt always will. It's similar to arguing toward any form of censorship: simply making something slightly more difficult to obtain does not, and will not ever, eradicate its existence, and a person who is destined to injure themselves or others will do so without the aid of anyone or anything.

I personally do not see how simply showing a person having sex on camera is any way harmful. It's a natural human function just like eating, sleeping, drinking or breathing - that's not exactly a newsflash to most people over the age of six.
t'lema
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November 21st, 2008 at 01:11pm
Personally I find nothing wrong with pornography. I'm actually really surprised so many people are so strongly against it.

I don't find it offensive, I mean they're just doing something that brought us all into this world (by that I mean sex is a natural thing, not that babies are popping out of porn stars every 5 minutes)

I don't find it degrading unless it's a violent film, such as a snuff film, and people choose to be in those films. It's their choice. I can understand that people might not like it from a religious point of view but to me, it can be used for someone's personal satisfaction, and yes couple's watch it together as foreplay. Sometimes people watch it for fun in a group.

It's not shown randomly to you, you have to buy/look for it so I don't understand why people have such a problem with it.
Person0001
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November 21st, 2008 at 02:08pm
Huck.:
I don't find it degrading unless it's a violent film, such as a snuff film.
A snuff film is not a porno, it's an onscreen murder., and I'm not so sure that the victims had a choice - who would volunteer to be murdered?
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November 21st, 2008 at 05:39pm
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i shall refrain from serious conversation here from here on out
Mindfuck
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November 22nd, 2008 at 06:33am
Number 5:
most of the people that object to it are a tad on the religious side which then makes thier expression of distate purely an expression of thier views which are thier own
So in a round-about way you're trying to say it's their opinion. Well, quite. They can express whatever they want.
Number 5:
so therefore not applicable to anothers life choices therefore making there argument somewhat irrelevant?
People are allowed to not like porn. You may not agree with it, but people are still allowed to have that opinion irrespective of their faith.

For the record, I'm not against porn by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd be foolish to deny other people their opinion simply on religious grounds.

Number 5:
because to be fair most who object have never actually seen any.
And how do you know what "most" people have or haven't done? That claim intrigues me.
XHellsBellX
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November 26th, 2008 at 02:02pm
okay, pornography is okay when its legal. not saying i watch it or read it but its okay for the ppl that do. but yeah it is kinda creepy having a teacher look at it or ur parents...then thats just awkward.
Note: I said AWKWARD not WRONG!
Mindfuck
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December 30th, 2008 at 08:32am
XHellsBellX:
okay, pornography is okay when its legal.
Unfortunately, it's actually quite hard to tell if some pornography is "legal" or - I suppose - "ethical" because quite often the actors in mainstream porn movies are nameless, or they have an alias.
el_david
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December 30th, 2008 at 12:45pm
i guess all of these reason are right for banning pornography
Tallulah
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December 30th, 2008 at 01:13pm
XHellsBellX:
okay, pornography is okay when its legal. not saying i watch it or read it but its okay for the ppl that do. but yeah it is kinda creepy having a teacher look at it or ur parents...then thats just awkward.
Note: I said AWKWARD not WRONG!


I'm a teacher, I don't discuss if I have watched pornography with my pupils. Neither did my parents, I honestly don't know if they ever did. I personally don't find either situation creepy.

Pornography is a personal choice.
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January 2nd, 2009 at 06:11pm
One Thousand Oceans:
My question is, really, what is the GOOD in it? There's a lot of argument between the quote "church ladies" and.. er... non-church ladies, I guess, that either it's dirty/bad or there's nothing wrong with it, it's not hurting you, etc. I'd like to honestly know what GOOD pornography does anyone, except those who sell it to people, in which case it makes them money.
What's the good in TV, video games, junk food, etc?

I'm willing to bet you have one, if not all of those in your house. Why do you have them, they don't do you any good? Your favorite video game or DVD is equivalent to someone's porno. It may not do exact good to the world, but neither do said DVDs or video games.

Pornography may not do good for the world, but it's a hobby. Who can say what's a good hobby and what's not? Say you like building model airplanes and I like collecting Pokemon cards. I'm not gonna go around saying: "What you're doing is useless and does absolutely nothing for the world. Why bother doing it? It's so stupid and you shouldn't do it because the world doesn't get anything good out of it.". It's something some people like doing. It's not a bad thing, really, unless you make it out to be. Because face it, all it is is videoed "sex". And face it, people are having sex all over the world, there's just people who tape it, make it, and watch it for fun. It's much like... voyeurism if you will. It's a fetish. There's nothing illegal about it, unless there's illegal things going on in it. If you watch it, there's nothing wrong with you and nothing wrong with it having absolutely "doing no good" in the world.
Che Guitarrista
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January 4th, 2009 at 11:15pm
I agree with amy there honestly there is nothing wrong with it and it basically is a hobby I know a very down to earth German man who's job is to monitor porn on a website. he is a really nice guy and it pays alot aswell.
SindySellick
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January 10th, 2009 at 04:29pm
tbh. if you dont like porn dont watch it.
if you think its wrong dont watch it.
i dont watch it myself, but there are people that do.
so leave them be Smile
the_Saminator
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January 23rd, 2009 at 03:18pm
Porn is just so0 but, yet so0 right! Yeah...... I know I need help xD
Search and Destroy
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January 23rd, 2009 at 03:56pm
the_Saminator:
Porn is just so0 but, yet so0 right! Yeah...... I know I need help xD
Please ensure your post contributes to the discussion and is not just basically your love of porn!

Thanks
demon dean
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February 8th, 2009 at 03:31am
i enjoy it.
but, i think that porn that displays violence towards women/men/animals is wrong and shouldn't be created at all.
Day Old Hate
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February 11th, 2009 at 02:52pm
I'm from the morality that if it is consensual, it's okay.
Some people get off on the violent aspect of pornography, and honestly, if it is 100% consensual, I don't mind it at all. It could be argued that it would influence people to act this type of porn out, or make people violent, a "monkey-see monkey-do" effect... I don't buy it though.
You see worse / scenes of equal violence in some films, and the whole audiences of these films aren't raping and beating people to death.

Pornography involving animals, however, is very illegal and very wrong in my opinion.
Darkromance
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February 12th, 2009 at 12:18pm
As long as it isn't made by women being forced to do it, like sex slaves (I recommend that everyone should see the movie "Human Trafficking"Wink, then whatever. It's harmless. As long as the people in it get tested and make sure to take every precaution to not get an STD.