Pornography

samantha connolly:

If they're drunk, it's not exactly consensual sex.
But regardless, a sex tape is not a good thing to have just hanging around in your closet.
And yeah, it WILL haunt you.
You're never going to be able to get a number of jobs, and even if you do, if you're in any position of power and that comes out, it will affect your job.
The working world isn't like Hollywood, where a sex tape is no biggie.
If you're in college, they can revoke your scholarship, you can get kicked out of your sorority/fraternity, you can even get kicked out.

True if you're drunk you aren't in your right mind, but I don't think it should be considered unconcerning. It just amplifies the craziness, it doesn't invent it.
Well not for me, I wouldn't really care. I guess some prudish people would, but then they wouldn't be getting into such situations would they? I have no idea were your coming from when you say you won't be able to get jobs/it will affect your career. What would a sex tape have to do with any of that? Just because some where in this Universe there would be video documentation of me having sex means automatically I couldn't be eligible for a job? How is that possible? If its private, and your (real) name isn't in the title, what does it matter?

FAMOUSAMOUSJOYOUS:

You are wrong, it is hurting people. The 'consenting adults' who watch it, yeah, some have families. A pornography addiction can rip families apart similair to drugs. It's like having an affair. The spouse feels they aren't as good as the pictures, they were never good enough. The children are upset that one parent doesn't want the other parent anymore, like in a divorce. And the rest of the family, uncles, aunts. siblings, parents, are just ashamed.

I agree with the first comment on this thread, it is wrong, end of story.

Never Going Home:

I think it's wrong, as do most of us. But you have the people who just don't really care and think it's cool. And your right it can rip families apart. But I guess everyone has their own opinions.

As for this, I have to express that saying porn ruins lives is a bit extream. The whole porn addiction thing is also pretty LAME in my opinon. I mean turn off the computer! I don't understand how anyone could get that sucked into a pass time that starts to hurt if you do it to much! I also disagree on the whole affair thing, to me it just doesn't make sense. Porn has its purpose, to help relive stress and sexual tension one may hold, and it ends there, its not to make your partner jelous. And with the whole divorce senario, that means there was a problem with the marrige to beguin with, porn is not to blame. And I don't know of any family that would be ashamed of a member having some fun time alone; its just a part of life.

I for one am not a fan of the mentality that "those who watch porn are supporting something that ruins lives." There are so many other things that truly hinder society then public sex. And in many cases porn helps way more then it hurts.

KingRex:

True if you're drunk you aren't in your right mind, but I don't think it should be considered unconcerning. It just amplifies the craziness, it doesn't invent it.
Well not for me, I wouldn't really care. I guess some prudish people would, but then they wouldn't be getting into such situations would they? I have no idea were your coming from when you say you won't be able to get jobs/it will affect your career. What would a sex tape have to do with any of that? Just because some where in this Universe there would be video documentation of me having sex means automatically I couldn't be eligible for a job? How is that possible? If its private, and your (real) name isn't in the title, what does it matter?

I just have to repeat what was already said, If you are drunk it is not consensual.
When you are drunk you are not as in control of the situation as a sober person would be. Prudish people? Try most of society.

Eponine:

I just have to repeat what was already said, If you are drunk it is not consensual.When you are drunk you are not as in control of the situation as a sober person would be. Prudish people? Try most of society.

I understand where you are coming from, bu to what extent? Could you sue someone for having really passionate sex with you while you were under the influence? I would hope not. Obviously if a person is hesitant and not interested, whether drugs are involved or not, it is "not consentual." But I hesitate to say that its the case every time alcohol is in effect.

KingRex:

I understand where you are coming from, bu to what extent? Could you sue someone for having really passionate sex with you while you were under the influence? I would hope not. Obviously if a person is hesitant and not interested, whether drugs are involved or not, it is "not consentual." But I hesitate to say that its the case every time alcohol is in effect.

I mean if you are completely wasted. You probably could though. Someone probably has.

^ Agreed, but I don't think its that black and white. What if your partner was thinking of themself while you were under the influence? I wouldn't consider it rape. But yes its not like you know what you are doing. There sould really be another term between consent and non-consent. Un-consious consent maybe?

If I apply for a job with Microsoft, and they go to do a background check on me, and I am filmed having sex with someone? I'm not getting that job.
You can't work for the government, you can't work for businesses that promote "family values", you can't work in the entertainment business, you can't work around children.
A girl at the college in my town was kicked out of school for a video of her receiving oral sex at a frat party. It depends on what type of school you have I suppose, but I know it happened at my cousin's college and at the college 45 minutes away, too.
Of course it affects your chances of getting a job.
And it doesn't matter if you don't use your real name, if it's out there, it's out there, and it's probably going to be found somewhere.

^I agree

I also think it depends on whether you're a guy or a girl, and I think it's just the general attitude toward sex-a girl is a slut if she sleeps around, a guy...not exactly.

samantha connolly:

If I apply for a job with Microsoft, and they go to do a background check on me, and I am filmed having sex with someone? I'm not getting that job.
You can't work for the government, you can't work for businesses that promote "family values", you can't work in the entertainment business, you can't work around children.
Of course it affects your chances of getting a job.
And it doesn't matter if you don't use your real name, if it's out there, it's out there, and it's probably going to be found somewhere.

That is only because many people in society think of it as 'wrong', or 'bad'. If everyone though sure, go ahead, it wouldn't matter. I personally would be more concerned if someone was prostituting themselves on the street rather than having sex on camera.

ChipmunkOnKetamine:

I personally would be more concerned if someone was prostituting themselves on the street rather than having sex on camera.

If you where paid to be in the video then it pretty much is prostitution.

Eponine:

ChipmunkOnKetamine:

I personally would be more concerned if someone was prostituting themselves on the street rather than having sex on camera.

If you where paid to be in the video then it pretty much is prostitution.

yeah, 'cos prostitution is selling yourself for sex. Being paid to have sex on camera is borderline simularity, you're getting paid to have sex nonetheless but it just happens to be on camera.
I'm not sure whether thats came out right, but i hope you get what i mean!!

Who gives a shit? like seriously.
people are saying porn doesnt hurt anyone but others are coming back that it does because the fact that your spouse watches porn hurts you.
lets be honest, there are ALOT of married guys who are unsatisfied with their sex life. its not neccessarily their wifes fault but nevertheless they are, so would you rather have your spouse cheat or watch porn? I think the answer is obvious.
Watching two people have sex isnt cheating. looking at a girl naked isnt cheating.
that fact that it hurts you so bad maybe has something to do with the fact that you arent open about sex and perhaps this is where this problem with your man began.

everyone wants sexual gratification and if porn gives you the little bit extra that the person your with cant...i dont see the issue.

I think the hurt would come from the fact that your spouse is unsatisfied with you, not not being open about sex.

Eponine:

I think the hurt would come from the fact that your spouse is unsatisfied with you, not not being open about sex.

Yes, so people who are claiming that "porn hurts people" are therefore kind of in the wrong (in my opinion anyway). Because the hurt doesn't stem from the actual porn. Chances are the issue(s) between the two people in the relationship stems far beyond porn, and chances are the relationship was unstable before one-half of the couple started looking at porn regularly.

It's easy to blame porn for the breakdown of communication in a relationship, when in reality the couple should look deeper into the way they see each other and they way they communicate with each other.

I can understand jealousy from the spouse or partner, but if they have a problem then they should communicate to their partner and give them an ultimatum - porn or them? If the other person picks porn then it obviously wasn't meant to be.

I can see why people would like porn, but the problem I have with it is that a lot of the time it actually degrades women. For example, the filming in most cases is centred around the woman and not men. It's also supposedly acceptable for the woman to be labelled a "slut" or "bitch" while the man isn't named at all. Isn't he just as bad for participating? To summarise, women are undeniably objectified and I think porn can encourage sexism.

Also the whole thing to me seems fake and sleazy. In my opinion that's not what sex should be about, but I'm aware that the importance or value of sex to someone differs from person to person. What I mean by this is that it cheapens sex.

Bert McCracken:

Even though it is mainly directed at men, most women ... watch it on a regular basis.

Uhh, what? Most? Where are you getting that factoid?

I'm honestly quite surprised at the amount of people here who seem to be against porn?

I have nothing against it myself, the people taking part aren't being exploited, thats their job, they're being paid to do. Dare I say, they enjoy it?

As for the job thing, I can't imagine the type of person who does porn films for work are going to be the sort of person who at some point is going to work at microsoft or in the government. Without meaning to stereotype there. That would be quite a career leap...

Those that get kicked out of school whatever... these are people who have taken part int heir own and have done it in perhaps quite a naive way. You'd have to trust the other person so much to know that it is not going to be seen by anyone else. Porn films and the amatuer vids you might make yourself are quite different things in my eyes. It's awful that it's caused so much problems to someone life, but that person never intended it to be seen by anyone else. Someone in a proper porn film enters it knowing it's going to be seen by anyone.

And for hurting relationships... how? There would have to be something alrady wrong I think. I wouldn't have a problem with a partner watching it. I'd kinda hope he'd let me watch too...

Darn society being so prudish.

Firegarder:

I have nothing against it myself, the people taking part aren't being exploited, thats their job, they're being paid to do. Dare I say, they enjoy it?

Except that a lot of young people are 'tricked' into doing it and therefore are being exploited, plus the fact that it's basically prostitution.

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As for the job thing, I can't imagine the type of person who does porn films for work are going to be the sort of person who at some point is going to work at microsoft or in the government. Without meaning to stereotype there. That would be quite a career leap...

It wasn't about someone who has made a 'career' out of porn, it's someone who maybe did it once or twice because they where desperate for money.

Eponine:

Except that a lot of young people are 'tricked' into doing it and therefore are being exploited, plus the fact that it's basically prostitution. .

If it's a legit pornography company, they made the people involved sign film releases. You'd have to be pretty stupid not to notice somewhere "pornography film model release" on the contract you were signing.

Faye Merci:

If it's a legit pornography company, they made the people involved sign film releases. You'd have to be pretty stupid not to notice somewhere "pornography film model release" on the contract you were signing.

Again, not talking about the legit stuff. I've seen sites where guys trick teens and young adults into having sex with them and it's blindingly obvious that they don't know they're being taped.