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Bleeding Dry
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August 29th, 2008 at 01:27pm
I'm not sure what to think about it tbh.
I mean, my friend watches it right in front of his girlfriend, while she eats doritos and texts, or files her nails or whatever. And it doesn't bother her.
I think it might bother me, especially if I was sat right there, but I don't know.
I know it's not the same, but when they have striptease's in films, my boyfriend talks about them with his friends all the time, and it doesn't bother me. Because that's what he has always done. And I know he loves me, and he has respect for me. Plus, I know that if a generic girlfriend said to said boyfriend they didn't like him watching porn, if it was something he had always done, he would probably either still do it, or be unhappy that he couldn't. If you didn't like it and you discussed your concern, be it insecurity towards the girls on screen, you'd feel better after it.
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August 30th, 2008 at 01:27am
I don't really have a problem with pornography.
I think of it as a buisness, which is what it is.

Men and women agree to take part in porn, which is their choice. Therefore, I believe they are not exploiting themselves. They are to an agree, but they know that the whole world can watch them have sex anytime they want. They have to know that, and if they agree to that, then it's okay, I think.

It's a huge buisness that will always thrive. It's making boatloads of money, and most of the people that take part in pornography enjoy it, so people that are against pornography shouldn't have to worry. It's not like porn is something people are craming down your throats, or on your TV 24/7. If you don't like porn, don't watch it, you know?

And, yes, the women most of the time look like pretty little objects that are just there for eye candy, but the women obviously have to expect that. They have to realize that that is what the viewer wants to see, and that's what they are going to do. If they don't like it, they can walk away and not do the video.

I don't know. That's my take on it.
John Wayne
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August 30th, 2008 at 09:50am
I used to think all guys probably liked this stuff, but my brother totally doesn't like it. He thinks it's wrong, and I agree with him. It's pretty much adultery. We both believe that people shouldn't be showing or doing things like this, and even though some people think it won't harm anyone, well, it can. It can totally pervert or ruin your mind. People DO get addicted to this stuff. Especially those who allow themselves to get addicted. I've had my own problems with all this stuff.

As for the "Should it be banned?" part...Well, I don't know. It'd be nice if it was banned, but I'm sure people would still continue to make it and somehow sneak it around. I think people just have to make their choice on whether they want to see it or not. They have to choose what they want to let their eyes see.
sciencefreak897
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September 8th, 2008 at 01:42pm
It should be banned because it's simply wrong, and puts bad ideas into peoples heads. Did you know that 100% of rapests have looked at porn?
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September 8th, 2008 at 03:06pm
sciencefreak897:
Did you know that 100% of rapests have looked at porn?

And where the hell did that percentage come from? I don't believe that at all.
It's more likely that almost everyone has seen some porn in their lifetime.
Rexperience
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September 8th, 2008 at 06:34pm
^^ I actually think banning would do more harm then good. I mean society has enough problems as it is. To me trying to shut down a strong economic buisness that makes A LOT of people happy isn't worth it, even if you don't understand it completley ~ Rex
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September 8th, 2008 at 06:40pm
sciencefreak897:
It should be banned because it's simply wrong, and puts bad ideas into peoples heads. Did you know that 100% of rapests have looked at porn?


Can you prove those statistics?
Thats like saying "100% of murderers have eaten food. So lets ban food."

While I am not a fan of porn, I really don't think you can blame it for the sexual ills in society. For a lot of people it's an outlet for their feelings rather than the cause of those feelings.

i'd like to see the report you took that stat from.
tabitha
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September 9th, 2008 at 10:09pm
sciencefreak897:
It should be banned because it's simply wrong, and puts bad ideas into peoples heads. Did you know that 100% of rapests have looked at porn?


Okay, what are you basing it being "simply wrong" on? Your personal morals and worldview? Because there are over 6 billion people on this planet and not all of them thinks it's wrong.

The urge to procreate is a perfectly normal urge. Note that we have over 6 billion people on this planet, because we have a biological imperative to breed and keep the species alive. So how does watching porn put ideas into people's heads, at least, ideas that weren't already there?

So I have a dear friend who is a fetish bondage model. There are people in the world that want to do that. So they can either pay her for a session and allow them to enjoy the fetish, or they can go out and kidnap a woman and force them to do it against their will. So I would argue that she is actually doing the world a service, by providing what the men want willingly, she is keeping someone from being tied up and raped.

I've watched porn. I've never raped anyone. I've watched it with my husband, and with friends (not all at the same time though) and none of them are rapists either. That's a sick generalization.
sciencefreak897
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September 10th, 2008 at 01:45pm
Tallulah; Schechter:
sciencefreak897:
It should be banned because it's simply wrong, and puts bad ideas into peoples heads. Did you know that 100% of rapests have looked at porn?


Can you prove those statistics?
Thats like saying "100% of murderers have eaten food. So lets ban food."

While I am not a fan of porn, I really don't think you can blame it for the sexual ills in society. For a lot of people it's an outlet for their feelings rather than the cause of those feelings.

i'd like to see the report you took that stat from.


ha ha... Yes! We need to ban food!

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that... I'm not sure if it's true or not, but when you think about, a lot of rapests have porn on there puker (my little word for computer) in the police reports i read in my daily paper...and also the ones i hear about on the news.. and also, i was a speech by Chris West (he's this pro-life, anti sex before marriage guy who gues around the USA giving speechs) and he said the same thing
Mindfuck
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September 10th, 2008 at 07:20pm
sciencefreak897:

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that... I'm not sure if it's true or not, but when you think about, a lot of rapests have porn on there puker (my little word for computer) in the police reports i read in my daily paper...and also the ones i hear about on the news.. and also, i was a speech by Chris West (he's this pro-life, anti sex before marriage guy who gues around the USA giving speechs) and he said the same thing
Ah, yes... because you're daddy and some right-wing conservative told you that, so it absolutely must be true. File
(^sarcasm)

We're talking about FACTS here, not just some lame statistics someone has pulled out of nowhere. Your dad and this other guy are obviously vehemently against pornography, so of course they're going to feed you bias.

If you KNOW it's true, try and back up your statements with legitimate sources, otherwise no one will really take you seriously. Saying it's word of mouth isn't really a source, because anyone can say anything about anything and claim it to be true.
Chantal
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September 10th, 2008 at 10:52pm
sciencefreak897:


ha ha... Yes! We need to ban food!

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that... I'm not sure if it's true or not, but when you think about, a lot of rapests have porn on there puker (my little word for computer) in the police reports i read in my daily paper...and also the ones i hear about on the news.. and also, i was a speech by Chris West (he's this pro-life, anti sex before marriage guy who gues around the USA giving speechs) and he said the same thing


You admit right in your paragraph that you don't know if it's true or not? Yes I'm sure a lot of rapists have porn on their computer. But so do a lot of other people. Nice people with regular lives who have their own bedroom habits. Now I don't agree with porn because of personal beliefs about sex and the objectification of women. But I also don't agree with the way your trying to argue this. Your using multiple logical fallicies

First your using appeal to belief, saying that since a lot of people believe this it must be true. Then your using appeal to authority, because your dad is older and possibly wiser does not give him the right to claim he knows his facts about porn and not be able to show you studies when he's not any form of researcher about sex. Same goes for the abstinence dude. Please be able to use legitimate sources or very good logic when arguing.
tabitha
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September 12th, 2008 at 08:15pm
sciencefreak897:

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that...


When I was a little liebchen my groMutter (grandmother on my father's side) used to tell me tales of my GroBonkel (great uncle) Josef and how he fought so bravely in the war. She would show me his medals and the special stein that he got for bravery in air battle, and tell me of his time of service, and how his time in the war saved people in Germany. Then I moved back to America, grew up and went to school and learned about World War II and the Nazi party and recognized the symbol from all my uncle's medals as a swastika, and I realized that my uncle was in the SS, flew Blitzkrieg missions over England, received his stein and medals from Adolf Hitler, and killed countless people because of their religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. He doesn't seem quite the great hero anymore.

Moral of the story? Think for yourself.
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September 12th, 2008 at 08:34pm
Mindfuck:
sciencefreak897:

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that... I'm not sure if it's true or not, but when you think about, a lot of rapests have porn on there puker (my little word for computer) in the police reports i read in my daily paper...and also the ones i hear about on the news.. and also, i was a speech by Chris West (he's this pro-life, anti sex before marriage guy who gues around the USA giving speechs) and he said the same thing
Ah, yes... because you're daddy and some right-wing conservative told you that, so it absolutely must be true. File
(^sarcasm)

We're talking about FACTS here, not just some lame statistics someone has pulled out of nowhere. Your dad and this other guy are obviously vehemently against pornography, so of course they're going to feed you bias.

If you KNOW it's true, try and back up your statements with legitimate sources, otherwise no one will really take you seriously. Saying it's word of mouth isn't really a source, because anyone can say anything about anything and claim it to be true.
I agree with Mindfuck, one of my closest friends is addicted to porn, one of the last things he would ever do was rape someone, some rapist do watch porn yes, but that doesn't mean ever person whose ever looked at porn went out and raped someone.
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September 12th, 2008 at 08:36pm
sciencefreak897:

umm... report? I think my daddy told me that...

Well, no offence, but judging by this and posts in other threads, your daddy has his opinions (which aren't based on fact) and is using bulls*** statistics like that one to brainwash you.
Think for yourself. As has been said, not everything you read or hear from your parents, or teachers, or friends, is true.

I think if anything, porn has saved a lot of lives. As others have said, a person can either watch porn and indulge privately in their fantasies, or they can go out and rape/kidnap an unwilling person in order to play out those fantasies. I'd much rather a person who wants to do that kind of thing, just do it at home in front of their computer.

For the record, my husband watches porn and he is by no means a rapist, or a pervert, or anything like that. He is nothing short of a gentleman, and I know that if I had a problem with him watching porn, he would stop doing it.
But I don't. I know that he's satisfied with me, but that he sometimes likes a little extra stimulation from looking at other women naked. At least he's looking at some anonymous woman on a computer screen, rather than going out and cheating on me and catching an STD or, God forbid, getting some random pregnant.
Women indulge in various forms of porn, too - how many women do you know who read Mills and Boon novels? They aren't videos of people having sex, but if you've ever read one, you know the sexy parts can get quite explicit.

Pornography is a booming business, as is pretty much anything to do with the sex industry. I wouldn't get my gear off on camera, personally, but if that's what somebody wants to do to pay their bills, more power to them. If you personally don't like porn, you have the simple choice not to download it, or buy the DVDs from the local adult store, or pick up the latest copy of Playboy from the newsagent. Your choice - but in saying that, don't deny other people their choice.
Cigarettes And Suicide
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September 12th, 2008 at 08:43pm
sciencefreak897:
I'm not sure if it's true or not, but when you think about, a lot of rapests have porn on there puker (my little word for computer) in the police reports i read in my daily paper...and also the ones i hear about on the news..

And for the record, no mdeia outlet is going to mention if a person charged with a crime had regular porn on their personal computer. It's only reported if the police have found CHILD PORN in the person's possession - which obviously is completely disgusting and wrong beyond belief. Children are innocents, they are defenseless and cannot fight back or say no. Adults, on the other hand, are consenting, know what they are getting into and many actually CHOOSE porn as a career path.

Just clearing that up. Seriously. Nobody cares if some rapist had a run-of-the-mill Jenna Jameson DVD in his house when he was arrested. The media only gives two hoots when it's either child porn, or seriously violent pornography (some types are banned in certain countries due to their extreme explicitness).
Little Miss Mental
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September 16th, 2008 at 09:30pm
I don't like porn...I think its wrong and degrading to whoever's "participating" in it. I guess it might be a good thing if someone is alone and needs release, yeah ew I know. But other than that I think it should go away, I can't understand why people expose themselves to that, couldn't they get an infection or STD or something? I wouldn't do it for a million dollers...nuh uh
Mindfuck
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September 16th, 2008 at 09:37pm
Lady.del.Lago:
I guess it might be a good thing if someone is alone and needs release, yeah ew I know.
Oh yeah, that is so totally ewwwww oh-em-gee! Neutral
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What is so wrong with people looking at porn for pleasure? Why is that concept so disgusting to some people? And it's not just people who are "alone" who watch it, a lot of couples watch porn together as well.
gia
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September 17th, 2008 at 09:16am
If the actors are consenting adults, why should porn be banned?
The fact that it's there doesn't mean anyone has to watch it. if you think it's imoral/wrong/gross etc, then don't watch.
I personally don't watch such movies, but I have many guy friends who do and they are perfectly normal human beings.
Martha.Monster
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September 17th, 2008 at 10:56am
Lady.del.Lago:
I can't understand why people expose themselves to that, couldn't they get an infection or STD or something?


I just wanted to clear this fact up for anyone wondering.
Most respectable Porn Business; only let the people participating in the films; work, If they have undergone STD, Aids, HIV etc Tests before filming commences. They get given a certificate to say that they've got the all clear; and The Majority of Porn Employers ask to see this before Filming starts Smile

I honestly don't see the problem with Porn myself; as long as it's between 2 consenting Adults.
I think If you don't like it; don't watch it Smile
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September 18th, 2008 at 12:45am
^ Absolutely. STDs don't suddenly appear out of nowhere, nor are they the product of having frequent sex, or frequent sex with different partners.
STDs, HIV and other infections are only transmitted from people who HAVE these infections/diseases. So if everyone participating has undergone health checks and has received the all-clear from their doctor, then nobody can catch anything from each other. It's only if one of these people has sex with someone on their own time (ie outside the set, that the producers etc of the porn movies cannot control), that infections are introduced.