Religion
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| Person0001 Always Born a Crime  Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099 | HintFEAR08:I personally believe that heaven and hell are states of mind, and that you see whatever you personally expect to see as you pass away. |
| I Am The Used Fabulous Killjoy Age: 34 Gender: Male Posts: 152 | Religion, like most everything in this world, is a very complicated and contiversal topic. I believe that everyone has the right to their own faith, and no one has the right to question another's faith. Someone can argue another's religion if, and only if, they know the facts. If you haven't studied up on something then you really have no foundation on witch to base your argument against it. Honestly I think the idea of religion is stupid. Well organized religion at least. I don't see why we can't have individual faith. Instead of going to church or mass or temple or what ever you go to, why cant we all just worship out of our homes to what ever god we believe in. that would make things so much simpler. But the worldis not nore will it ever be simple. But my view still stands that everyone is free to what ever view of god they wish, and everyone else should leave them alone about it. |
| Mindfuck Always Born a Crime  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614 | I Am The Used:I agree that everyone has a right to their own faith, but I disagree when you say no one has a right to question. I think everyone should be allowed to question any religion, as long as they don't vilify the actual person they're talking to. I Am The Used:Would it make it simpler, though? How would it? A lot of people go to church etc. not only for religious reasons, but also social reasons. For some people it is just as much about dedication to your faith as it is about socialising with others that have the same faith as you. |
| sass attack. Demolition Lover  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 15290 | I Am The Used: I don't see anything wrong with that either. The Bible says the Sabbath is supposed to be a day of prayer. It doesn't exactly say we're supposed to be at church {though I may be wrong, I haven't exactly read the whole bible... and I haven't read it recently, but this is from what I know} , we leave that day for reflection and prayer. Most go to church to learn, and as the person above said, for social reasons. |
| I Am The Used Fabulous Killjoy Age: 34 Gender: Male Posts: 152 | Looking at your posts and looking back on mine it occurs to me that i did not make clear what i was trying to say lol and perhaps writing a post on my views on religon could have waited till i had had some sleep, i was running of of about 5 hours in 3 days, right now im running off 7 in 2 days so in alittle more rested, ha. Any ways what i ment to say when i said that That individual faith would be more simple is that Instead of living in this world wear religon seams to come into play in almost every aspect of life, including some where it should not such as concerns of goverment and education and so many more. religon should have nothing to do with how a country is ran or what is taught in school and if every one practiced faith with in the family in stead of having large congragations of people. When people group together is when they cause problems. I dont know if it really makes since but it seams to me things might be more peaceful in this world. and the whole day of sabbath thing. sabbath is a day of rest. a day or as you said reflection and prayer. And honestly i dont see anything rest full about waking up at 7 in the morning on a sunday getting all dressed up to go sit in an extreamly uncomfortable bench and listen to a man tell me the same things he says every sunday. i would rather stay home crack open a bible and find something the preacher hasnt told me yet. But i do understand what your saying. and the whole socail reasoning behind it. i understand that too for the longest time the only reason i went is because there were people i wanted to see. |
| make some noise; Jazz Hands  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 271 | [Ohemgee. Like the 15 millionth topic I've randomly jumped in.] I was raised Christian/Roman Catholic, and I believe there is a God/Jesus, and that he sees us and cares for us, however, I also feel that many a time he laughs at us. I am sorry to say this, but I don't agree with everything my church teaches. My biggest issue with the catholic "rules" is the statement that homosexuality is a sin. I think everyone has the right to love whomever they want and marry whomever they want. I feel bad for saying this, but it's truly what I believe. I do, however, believe that God can perform miracles, and that he cares about the human population as a whole. Religion is a complicated mess, and the non-religious probably will never become religious for the most part purly because so many Christian denominations push their religion on the agnogistic/atheist population, and they're all probably going "Oh, screw it. I don't want to be like that, I'm happy how I am." I have a lot of friends that are all a lot of different faiths, and can respect all of their beliefs. When I'm having an argument about an issue that might have something to do with religion, [i.e abortion] I absolutly REFUSE to give the answer "Well, duh. Because God said so/because it's in the Bible." That is the STUPIDEST response to a question that their is. I personally am against abortion, and I don't think anyone should have them, but I'm not going to go and shove that up anyone's face. On the concept of going to mass every sunday. . . I personally agree with ^ [don't know names yet, too lazy to quote. Teribly sorry.] I am the kind of girl who has 3 pair of jeans, 7 bands tees, and a pair of converse and wears the same thing every day, and to mass i just wear a skirt with a band tee, but I really don't pay attention, because I can't. It becomes monotone to me. I become closer to God by reading a bible and figuring out different things. Sometimes the homilies are nice to help me understand exactly what the Bible is saying [I mean, it was written 2,000 years ago, for crying out loud.], but beyond that, and of course receiveing communion, I don't really see the whole need of going to mass, but of course, communion IS the main reason we go to church, and also really the only part of the mass that we couldn't all do at the conveinence of mass. I have never found anywhere in the Bible that says you have to go to church, but the Magesterium says you have to, so that's where that all comes from. Thank you for the loverly chance to ramble to strangers. xP [on a total off note, and please PM me the answer so as not to spam, why is cussing considered a sin? First off, every Catholic over the age of 13 cusses, if not frequently, at least once in a while, and I have NEVER found ANYWHERE anything the church says about cussing. Only thing I can find is "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" but nothing about all the eloquent four-letter words around. Ty. ^^] |
| Mindfuck Always Born a Crime Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614 | Holding.On.Tonight:I can't speak for any other atheist, but personally - the reason why I will never convert to some religion is more to do with the fact that I find most religions completely incomprehensible and virtually nothing about them makes sense to me. If people are trying to shove their opinions down my throat, then that's not going to make me not want to convert as such - it's just going to make me laugh at them for wasting their own time. |
| Dir-en-grey Joining The Black Parade  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 231 | people have thier own choice about religion. I was raised around catholics but im wiccan so ive made my decision. Wicca-Despite contrary popular belief, Wiccans are not Devil worshippers or Satanists. Instead, they embody a philosophy of life that includes the worship and intimate relationship with nature and the earth. Wiccans describe themselves as in sync with the natural rhythms of nature, including the different phases of the moon and seasons. Wiccans see the universe with the Creative Power, which defines everything as masculine or feminine, which lives in all people, making everyone importantly connected. |
| Faye Merci Salute You in Your Grave  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 4473 | Personally, I find all religion as a sort of well-meaning mistake. I think in the beginning people make religion to answer about the world, but the second they start trying to make rules about their god and their lives, it becomes something other than faith. It's mindless control. I believe that religion keeps people from thinking, because if you have some stupid bible to tell you all the answers, then why should you search for your own? Religion, to me, is a tool for mankind to manipulate and hurt each other. I don't believe in a god. |
| Faye Merci Salute You in Your Grave Age: - Gender: - Posts: 4473 | I Am The Used: Really? So if I were part of a cult that believed that all black people should be wiped out, wouldn't you want to question the sanity of my religion? Or is it okay as long as I say what Christianity says? People have the right to free speech, and the freedom of religion. If you can pray to whatever desert god you want, I have the right to call you crazy. |
| Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099 | Beautiful Tragedy:It's great that you have the intelligence to question your faith, however, the remaining guilt that you feel for holding such a position is still an issue that you need to resolve with yourself. Why should you feel bad for stating that everyone should be able to love anyone they want to - just because your priest tells you you should? Beautiful Tragedy:This is a bit of a contradiction in terms. It's fine for you to be personally against abortion, but once you begin dictating, even mentally, what others should do, you have crossed the line of acceptability. Legislature is not supposed to ever be based upon religious upholdings, period. You state that you don't seek to shove your beliefs in anyone's face, yet you are nonetheless averring that you don't believe anyone should have an abortion simply because you are against them. That is shoving your beliefs in someone else's face, despite your wishes not to do so. Just food for thought. |
| Number 0.05 Joining The Black Parade  Age: 35 Gender: - Posts: 198 | edited for mass conflict of opinion |
| Marilyn Monroe Awake and Unafraid  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 13140 | Number 5: I agreed with everything you said up until that point. I'm not religious but I don't think people that are religious should say fuck it and believe in nothing. It gives many people a great deal of comfort to know there's something after death and that some one is always looking out for them and there's no problem with that. The only problem I have with religion is when people decide to thrust their religion upon me and tell me I'll go to hell if I don't beleive in their god. |
| Mindfuck Always Born a Crime Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5614 | Number 5:Are you basically saying that you can't believe in yourself and any god? Because you can believe in both at the same time  |
| John St. John Shotgun Sinner  Age: 31 Gender: Male Posts: 7145 | Number 0.05: Were did you learn these things? What statistics do you have to back these things up? Because I doubt that every great thinker/person was angered or inspired? And I would assume quite alot of wars are down to power and money rather than religion. |
| Faye Merci Salute You in Your Grave Age: - Gender: - Posts: 4473 | Actually, most wars are about two things: land, or money. Now, the land may have some religious value, but the war itself is about land. Same with money. Trust me, everything comes down to money. |
| John St. John Shotgun Sinner Age: 31 Gender: Male Posts: 7145 | ^^ Yeah, I agree. There has been, of course, been wars due to religious conflict, however i think most are because of these things. |
| Person0001 Always Born a Crime Age: 43 Gender: Female Posts: 5099 | Number 0.05:Wait, you're against what? The entire existence of religion? Is that even an option? Also, how can war, corrupt religious views not meshing with politics, hatred and prejudice ever cause happiness? I know what you're trying to say here, but it's coming off a bit muddled. |
| tabitha Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 45 Gender: Female Posts: 1831 | Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe and to worship the deity of their choosing. While I do agree that religious intolerance has caused conflict throughout history, eradicating religion would not be the answer. Many people base their lives around their faith; people help others in an effort to live by their faith's teachings, and through faith people find strength, comfort, and a purpose to their lives. Too much of anything is harmful, radical religions included. But it can tie into a few other threads here. Alcohol can cause dependence, but should it be withheld from everyone just because a few people become addicted? Pornography is, by and large, used as a release and a learning tool but can also cause addiction and, in extreme cases, rapes and murders, but should the average couple be denied their right to view porn in their own home? It's the same with religion. Some people take it too far, but the majority live their faith and practice the laws of that faith while living a productive life. To deny someone their faith in a higher power is unconscionable and takes away their basic right to both freedom of religion and freedom of expression. |
| Go fuck yourself Devil's Got Your Number  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 37823 | One thing I always wonder is, that there are so many different religions out there, why do we just think Christianity as the "real" one or whatever. Everyone thinks they have it right....well obvisously someone has it wrong...but who really is to say? |
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