Suicide and Self harm
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| Punk_Bling_Girl_85 Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 39 Gender: Female Posts: 1307 | XxThePatientxX: I've never been in that position so its a tough one really. I guess most importantly she needs to know that you are there for her. You also need to get accross to her how wrong this is, maybe find out if she has done it before? Because if this is the first time then there is probably a very good chance she could stop before it becomes some kind of coping mechanism. You need to just stay calm about the whole situation, let her talk to you, she must really trust you to have told you in the first place, you need to let her know thats its not okay to be doing this. I don't mean tell her off or anything, but try and help her find some other ways of dealing with her emotional pain. Tell her maybe nextime she feels like this to try screaming on the top of her lungs, or even going for a run or something, using her energy to relieve the tension rather than resorting to this. |
| jack---fantasy Killjoy Age: 31 Gender: Male Posts: 35 | its infuriating that people with genuine problems are thrown into the "attention-seeker" category when they harm themselves by people where i come from. even parents are struggling to tell when kids are genuinly troubled because there are so many fucking people who do it for attention. |
| scissorglamour Killjoy Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 53 | What can be done to prevent it? i think just being yourself, and being loved for it, would do a hell of a lot. There would be no pressure to fit into stereotypes. Who does it affect?i think basically anyone between 10-whatever. its really sad how some people can be consumed by this torture inside theyre head. age isnt more the thing, its who your around. if your friends cut, you are more likely to. if you fake something, you are more likely to. and shit like that Why is it more common now than 10-20 years ago?definantly. with the "EMO" scene now, some people cut to be "Emo" even though you dont have to cut. Are there enough support groups?HELL YES. the question is, are people using them? How can family members help? if the person harming themselves is open to the help. |
| CAcT '-.-' tux Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 2188 | hey guys this is my 1st post here after getting hooked onto MCR for 7 days with the romance still going! ok back to this topic...it's really mind opening relieving to read this sort of sensible discussion on a message board with many of you who may fit into the emo category... Yeah- I'm sick of the negative and shallow attitudes and generalisation towards emos as people who cut themselves etc...I myself am disgusted to have been called 'emo' 3 times with that certain air of eliteness and criticism that people say it with. and hence I hate the generalisation. Especially by other singers like Adam and Andrew who sang "the emo kid song". At first I thought it was hilarious but soon i couldn't laugh anymore where they sing about kids cutting themselves. It's such a real life situation you can't laugh or tease the kids about it. I myself haven't heard many emo songs and MCR is the most I've heard...but I find it hard to understand and ironic that people say MCR saved their lives yet they're probably still depressed and cut themselves. I just think that the way some kids understand the music has got to do with the harm they do to themselves. sorry I'm not dissing the lyrics in any way- i think you need a certain firmness of knowing who you are and what your life is about to listen to MCR. That's one of the solutions to the problem of emos cutting themselves. I reckon it's the root of the problem. Not the music's problem hell no...I see MCR as an artistic band. ahaah...now after saying all this on my 1st post I'm scared of having tomatoes thrown at me for such edgy comments on the band... |
| bloodredruby69 Banned  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | Ok, I'm not going to throw tomatos at you, but I will take the time to point you in the right direction. This is the Suicide/self harm thread, so all posts should be focusing mainly on that, discussing why it's right, wrong, fixable, part of life, etc. You managed to get something on cutting, but you also kind of lost the plot and trailed off into labels. The post you made, while respectable, should go in a labelling thread called "Finding Emo" in the INO Chamber. Also, you should go to the Noobs board and introduce yourself, and maybe spend some time touring the INO Chamber before jumping in here. The discussions here are serious, often heated, and sometime we don't have a lot of patience for posts in the wrong place. Keep in mind that I'm trying to help you, and not trying to insult or belittle you. Please go introduce yourself. Pop into the What Are You Thinking? Thread in the INO chamber, play a few games, get the general feel of the site. If you have any questions or need directions or whatever, feel free to PM me. Welcome, have fun, and don't be discouraged. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | Broken Dream: Cutting isn't just to get fucking attention. About 85% of those that cut had some form of sexual abuse comittied on them and it's their way to exert some form of control over themselves because they feel they have no control over the abuse.   |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | blow me a kiss;: Catholic I see. So murdering someone isn't a one way ticket to hell all the time but suicide, an act that is desperate and is a cry for help that wasn't heard. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | Songbird: I am sorry about your friend but I disagree in the fact that suicide is the cowards way out. I myself have come to darm close to committing suicide, the ultimate cowards act, but still had enough logic left in me to realize what I was doing was wrong and I am ovbiously still here today. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | MyOwnImmortality: Due to past experiance, I believe religion's narrow-minded thinking has caused more suicides then it has prevented. I said it and I DON'T regret it! |
| bloodredruby69 Banned Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | ^Ok, look. Firstly, please don't do multiple postings like that, it's hard on the eyes, takes up more space than fitting it all into one post, and is redundant. Also, please watch your language. The reason that profanity is unwanted here is because it leads to unpleasent/heated arguments, rather than calm discussion. Please re-read the rules for the discussion board. And don't roll your eyes at the rule against profanity, because I saw that. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | Just curious, how did I swear in the above said? Honestly, I am not trying to be smart or anything I want to know. About the rules thread to begin with I did that because what is the point of having a discussion board when you have someone looking painstakingly close over for cussing and editing it or deleting the post completelydefeats the whole purpose of a serious discussion because I would think a person would want to hear honesty. Any way is this a private site? If not, three words "FREEDOM OF SPEECH.". By the way your avatar is hard on my eyes, it reminds me of those images that cause some people to have seizures. |
| bloodredruby69 Banned Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | In your fist post, right under mine. "Cutting isn't just to get fucking attention". If it was the first time I had seen you swear in here, I wouldn't have said anything and would have passed it off as a mistake. But given your post in the rules thread and a couple of others threads here, I decided to say something. Swearing is taboo here, because profanity leads the discussion away from civility. This is the only board where profanity is restricted, so please respect that rule. And no, no one is studiously looking over this thread or board for cussing, as the mods and admins are busy enough without having to check over every post. But if it becomes a problem, it can be reported. Not to mention that it is not at all necessary to use profanity here to get your point across. If you wish to talk to me further on that, please pm me. Now, on the actual subject, lest this become spam. Cutting is a far more involved and intricate issue than that which has been summed up here in the few blunt words some people have used. Circumstance and the understanding of the people who do cut themselves are crucial to understanding the problem, if there is one. Not all cutting a bad, or a problem. The majority, yes. But not all. |
| Innamorata Awake and Unafraid  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 11838 | scissorglamour: I just would like to point out that there have been cases, where there actually have been children starting at the age of 9 and below as well; Involving self-harm. It's quite morbid and gives you this reality check that is disturbing. scissorglamour: Depends on the family situation. Unfortunately, there is mounds of families who simply do not want to bother with treating/helping their love ones and who refuse to try and understand from the perspective of what's causing them to be in this mind set. Edit:// |
| MistressRhi Motor Baby  Age: 40 Gender: Female Posts: 991 | ^some people want help, they just dont know how to ask for it or think that they aren't good enough for anyone to help them. thats why we need to recognise the warning signals and let them know that you are there for them. |
| Innamorata Awake and Unafraid Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 11838 | MistressRhi: Thanks for pointing this out. That's actually not how the statement was suppose to be. Some people who choose to self-harm or who think about suicide are not able to bring forth that cry for help. They've been keeping it in for so long, why do they need to waste their breath? In reality, the signs need to be acknowledged, whether the person who is noticing them ( this could also involve yourself) wants to admit it or not. |
| DiabolicalDancer Thinking Happy Thoughts Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 421 | thruthofcontroversy: "Catholic I see." (in reference to a previous post) I know that this was not cruelly intended, or hope not, but in any case I take offense to it. I am Catholic and cringe everytime Catholicism is generalized, taking it as a personal attack. Many people have commented in this thread about the negativity of sterotypes towards those who cut, et cetera - I ask that you try to avoid any this please towards any group. Furthermore, according to the Catechism of the Catholic: (paragraph 2283) We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives. The Catholic Church does not condemn those who commit suicide, but rather allow only God to pass judgement on them. |
| MistressRhi Motor Baby Age: 40 Gender: Female Posts: 991 | MyOwnImmortality: totally agree with you there, i didnt think you meant it any other way. woah guys this is a discussion about suicide and self harm and the prevention of that, don't make it a religious argument. True religion plays its part but if you want to argue religion there is a thread for that. |
| Jeffree Star Motor Baby  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 950 | To prevent it talk to someone you absoultley love. I mean if they really love you they will help you. So just get help it's not your fault, of whatever reason you do this. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | RedRose: I'm sorry if I offfended you. I mean it. It's just when I was younger I go up in a town that was very clique, the cliques being families, and I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic Preochial school. Besides the fact that if you had the 'wrong family' name you were nothing, if you weren't Catholic or if you weren't 'Catholic enough' then you were nothing. Un fortunately, my mom's family fell under the first one and the negativety from the second one turned me one hundred eighty degrees away from Catholism and I choose not to believe in organized religion because of that. When I do say I am sorry I mean it because despite that I know there are people out there nice and accepting and are Catholic, so I don't have a hate for EVERY Catholic. |
| voice4mygeneration65 Jazz Hands Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 330 | ^^ I didn't know that. I always thought that Suicide was considered the"Unforegiveable Sin" in the eyes of the Catholic Church. I find that interesting in a good way. |
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